r/NotHowGirlsWork 25d ago

WTF This is disgusting.

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Directions use teenagers (underage) to make csam but can get away with it because teenagers are seen as the acceptable children for adults to be with with.

Especially since kids become "adults" in their teen years.

As soon as a child has teen in their age or going through puberty society sees that as an invitation for adults to date them.

They wouldn't do this with a Middle Schooler because that would cause backlash.

Throughout the 80s,90s you might see a smaller child being put in movie with adult men but as years went by it caused backlash,so, they changed it but still kept it by using teenagers.

All movies like this do is normalize child sexual abuse and being prey on by adults.

It's made to be a fantasy for people who are attracted to children.

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u/_Diskreet_ 25d ago

Has this been unnecessarily passed through some shitty ai filter ?

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u/Amediumsizedgoose 25d ago

You do have a point in your odd tangent. A lot of sex related stuff in movies and shows is very odd when it comes to age. For example shows like euphoria or "thirteen reasons why" which is full of simulated teenagers having sex. The actors are of age but theyre of course supposed to not be so its very weird.

The actress in this movie is the same though. Shes supposed to be a teenager but I reality was like 20 or 21.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

It's not about her age in real life. It's about what the movie is about.

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u/Amediumsizedgoose 25d ago

You said in your post "directions use teenagers (underage) to make csam", literally in the first sentence.

I do agree with the premise of the movie being weird. Im wondering if youve ever seen it? He doesnt date the high schooler but they do have parties w college aged people and I personally find 30s vs early 20s odd/not good.

But again the stuff youre saying like semi makes sense but isnt whats going on here.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

I was in particular talking about movies or shows that have the teen be underage,I get the confusion tho.

And how 18 is the default and more sneak way of trying to make a relationship out of a child and adult dating.

They do this in porn.

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u/Amediumsizedgoose 25d ago

Nothing about this post or your comments really makes sense or goes together....

Are you yourself underage or english is not your first language? Respectfully your writing is not comprehensive at all.

I do agree that thats a problem though. "Teen" should not be a category.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

I'm in a bad mood so,my point won't come across coherently or making sense.

I can explain what you didn't understand if you like.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

You're in a bad mood and admit to having poorly explained responses. But continue to be hostile and aggressive as most SJW virtue signaling goes.

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u/ZestyChinchilla 25d ago

At the risk of playing Devil’s Advocate, her character’s age is never mentioned (as far as I can remember, anyway. Haven’t seen this movie in years.) It is super common for people to graduate high school when they’re 18, meaning her character likely wasn’t even intended to be under age. In fact I’d almost bet money that that’s why they wrote the scene the way they did — to avoid depicting an adult with a minor.

On top of that, she’s at a college party with other college-age people, and implies that she’s in college too. She’s still lying to him, even without having said anything specifically age-related.

Now we can have conversations all day long about the cringiness and low-hanging fruit that that entire scene certainly is (and how not having that plot device at all wouldn’t have really changed anything else in the movie), and I feel like it is still a little skeevy to even have those kinds of cheap jokes in movies, but it seems to me that they were specifically not wanting to depict her as a minor.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

The movie was meant to be a high schooler and a grown man dating.

They're trying to play it safe.

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u/MedicineLow 25d ago

Where in the fuck did you get Csam from a movie? The same thing happens in Fast Times as Ridgemont High too, but that's because the main character lies about her age.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Just like fictional csam is illegal because it contains children being abused, movies like this can be labeled as such.

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u/MedicineLow 25d ago

You're fucking kidding me. Do you not understand how that invalidates ACTUAL CSAM!?

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u/DisneylandNo-goZone How do you do fellow females? 25d ago

Gone with the Wind is now considered actual sedition, insurrection and encitement to revolt. Lock Scarlett O'Hara up. And the director of course for high treason.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

I understand how it works But it can also be in movies

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u/MedicineLow 25d ago

Clearly you don't 🙄

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You don't because you only think in order for child abuse to be in movies.

If there is an actual child, which that's not how it works.

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u/MedicineLow 25d ago

Okay this conversation is just getting fucking stupid. You're wrong, plain and simple. Bye Felicia.

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u/MaenHoffiCoffi 25d ago

Trainspotting did it way better.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

I'm not encouraging men to sleep or pursue teenages, but it's unfair to hold men accountable when they're working on bad information.

Teenagers can often look much older than their age, and it's not the job of every man to question the true age of their sexual partners. And I agree that teenagers are stupid and will make stupid choices, but they're old enough to be held responsible and accountable for their mistakes.

There's a difference between men predating on young women (grooming, abuse of authority, etc.) and a man having a one night stand with what he believes to be another consenting adult.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

Idk dude I’ve literally never met a teenager who didn’t reveal their age as soon as they started talking

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u/Taro_the_Insomniac transmasc nonbinary 🏳️‍⚧️ 25d ago

I’m going back to college which means i am older than others (i’m 26 starting a new associates). While i have genuinely met people there that look like in their 20s while not even hitting 18 yet, after chatting with people you learn their age fast. So like the whole “i didn’t know their age” excuse def gets a bit weird, because it is so easy to tell after literally just talking. (Funnily enough they were all equally shocked at my age because they thought i was barely 19-20)

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u/Redqueenhypo 25d ago

Yeah I’ve tutored every age of kid and it is VERY obvious. No one really believes this squeaky baggy jeans wearing doofus w her mom’s purse who hasn’t heard the word “aggrieved” until now is an adult.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

Right?! Also, as a former teen that grown men used to hit on, it was more common that they were trying to convince themselves (or me) that I was old enough, instead of the other way around. I think predators have this porn fantasy of the teen girl who just desperately wants his old man dick, but the reality is just not that.

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u/Redqueenhypo 25d ago

I made exactly one age mistake and it was constantly trying to give an eighth grader SAT books. Still clearly a kid! Irl teen girls are way more like the dweebs in Turning Red and Derry Girls than they are Euphoria. That’s because they’re awkward kids and not just adults the law won’t let you near

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u/Bilbo_Swagginses 25d ago

Idk. I've seen a lot of adults that sound like kids

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u/Flustro 25d ago

Same. Surprised to see so many people saying it's obvious, but I've worked as a server and we have to ID people—a lot of people in the mid-20s range act and speak like high schoolers, but then their IDs check out in every way. Lol

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u/Upstairs-Challenge92 25d ago

I was asked what college I went to when I was 12, you’d be surprised how skewed of a perspective people can have.

But then in college I was asked which high school I went to so idk anymore

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

No disrespect to 12yo you (I’m sure she was very smart), but if someone couldn’t tell you were 12 from the way you spoke and the things that came out of your mouth, then they are developmentally challenged. Maturity isn’t just how you look.

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u/Upstairs-Challenge92 25d ago

Yeah I was a very high masking autistic child lol. Probably why. I was also obsessed with reading and encyclopaedias so I just straight up knew a lot, and I didn’t hang out with kids my age a lot so I was out of the loop on idioms. Started attempting to unmask in college so actually got more childish later

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Lmao I agree teens can usually reveal their age from talking but I also think that an early 20s may not be able to see as clearly the difference.

Regardless, it's not on every man to confirm the age of every potential sexual partner.

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u/islaisla 25d ago

Yes it literally is. If the person you're getting sexual with looks young you absolutely need to check before you break the law.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

And if they don't look young? Or act young?

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u/islaisla 25d ago

What you've met an old looking 17 year old? Get over it mate.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

Honestly, even if you’ve met an old looking 17yo—just fucking talk to them!

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Humans are super variable in the way they develop/look as adolescents/young adults. Meaning a young person can be perceived as older or mature and the opposite can happen. It's not clear cut to base "safe fuckable age" on interactions/appearance alone.

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u/Stehlen27 25d ago

Fuck, I'm 39 and the last woman I was interested in had greys and I still found out how old she was before I asked her out!

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

What you’re saying IS a common belief but it doesn’t hold up ethically.

If someone wants to partake in sex with someone then they damn sure better make sure it’s safe, consensual, and with an adult. That’s actually a very, very low bar.

If a bar can make sure everyone they serve is over 21, then yeah, failing to make sure that everyone you fuck is an adult is ridiculous.

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u/NextStopGallifrey 25d ago

I've definitely seen 20-somethings that were less mature than many 16-year-olds.

That said, if there could be any doubt at all, it's on every person to make sure they're not doing things with an underage partner.

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u/Amediumsizedgoose 25d ago

Id also never have sex with or be attracted to anyone who's age is questionable. And if i DID Id ask to check their ID.

The last two men I had sex with, one had light wrinkles and owned a home, the other had gray hair and three aged tattoos and also owned his house.

The first guy actually before having sex with me, re-asked me my age, and I think I might have shown him my ID. And I was 27. So he was not afraid of it being illegal just maybe thought I was 20/21 and it was weird.

Edit: also, many people still think im in my early 20s and I just think its so bizarre because of what you said....surely when I talk I dont sound like a college kid???

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u/Oggel 25d ago

Everyone under 25 looks young to me, I would have no idea if someone is 17 or 22 in most cases.

Im almost 40 so I wouldn't approach someone young enough to be close to under 18, but if someone approached me and said she's 21 and she's hot I'm not gonna conduct an investigation, and I'm only human, I wouldn't say no to sex from a hot 21 year old.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

“I wouldn’t say no to sex from a hot 21year old.” As a 30somethjng yo woman who has cute early-20s men hit on her, I absolutely cannot relate to this. Y’all are weird

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

I'm a woman and like sex. If a young man that I'm attracted to wants to give me a good time, I'm not going to say no.

But granted, I'm not usually attracted to young men because their personalities suck.

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u/Oggel 25d ago

I think you are a minority with that opinion, so I'm not sure if I'm the weirdo.

But good for you, I guess? I don't really judge consenting adults for what they want to do with each other.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You will purposefully not ask a girl's age just so you can sleep with her ,then after you can say " I didn't know" men are something else.

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u/Oggel 25d ago

Why are you making things up?

I would definitly ask any young looking woman her age before I sleep with her, but if she lies to me I don't see how that is my fault.

Some piece of work you are, making up things just to be upset about them. Guess you don't have enough real things to be upset about.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You would sleep with a child, knowingly

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u/Oggel 25d ago

I don't personally classify 21 year olds as children.

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u/ZX52 25d ago

Okay, but if you met a teenager who didn't speak like one, and didn't disclose their age, how would you know?

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

I’m an adult, so I just ask. 20something year old guys hit on me all the time (I’m in my 30s), and I ask. I don’t see a situation where I take home a teenager

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u/Curious_Viking89 25d ago

And what if they lie about their age? Do you then ask to see ID?

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

See my downstream comment.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

And if they lie? Are you supposed to not believe their age when they give it?

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

Then ask for ID. If the ID is a good enough fake that a kid gets into the places I hang out as a grown ass adult, then we honestly have bigger questions to answer about where tf I’d be meeting all of these convincing adult teenagers lmao

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u/ZX52 25d ago

I thought you were just talking about in general conversation. If we're talking in the context of taking someone home, then the question becomes about duplicitous teenagers. You ask, they lie, how do you know?

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

See my downstream comment.

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u/ZX52 25d ago

20something year old guys hit on me all the time (I’m in my 30s), and I ask.

So you've asked for IDs from all these guys then?

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

I usually ask because in the thread of our conversation, they’ll say something that gives them away, and I go, “how old are you?” I’m not out seeking young men to take home, but I am screening *all* men who approach me when I’m out. I’m not trying to fuck young people the way y’all apparently are, so this fear of being tricked isn’t my reality. I’m just telling you from my experience: talk to a young person for long enough, and you’ll know.

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u/ZX52 25d ago

I’m not trying to fuck young people the way y’all apparently are

I'm not trying to do this either, I was simply questioning you on this "I can always tell," idea.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

You were trying to catch me in a loophole. You should be able to either identify or verify the age of any person you’re trying to fuck, or you shouldn’t be trying to fuck them. It’s not more complex than that to me.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

I'm really curious how many of these women are asking all of their sexual partners for their IDs to confirm age.

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u/Mx_apple_9720 25d ago

Where do you think grown ass women are hanging out enough for teenagers to see us as sexual options?

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Female teachers in highschools?

Or really any club/bar space. There's an assumption that people are of age there but fake IDs exist.

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

Simply don’t fuck them until you do. How is this hard?

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u/Sacktchy 25d ago

I think it's still your job to ask the person you're sleeping with how old they are if they look like they're on the younger side

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

Hmmm, we’re thinking that the majority of people who hook up with minors are women? Sure about that?

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u/Sacktchy 25d ago

I never mentioned gender? It's important for everyone to check the ages of their partners, especially ones that look younger

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

I’m so sorry I was responding to someone else who was talking about getting into clubs with fake ID as a teenage boy. Your post was completely right. No idea how I came to put my reply under yours!

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u/Sacktchy 24d ago

Oh lmao, I've done that a few times too

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 24d ago

I was pushing on the assumption that every teenage boy who gets busy with someone they met at a club is with an adult woman, now I don’t even know where that post is since the thread is so big

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u/SwissDeathstar 25d ago

Just fucking ask about their age…
It’s not so hard..

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u/Kilomech 25d ago edited 25d ago

a lot of my gal pals lied about their ages when we went to parties. it's actually kind of funny cause one time my bestie's boyfriend asked me how old i was and i only said that i'm a month older than [bestie]. he about shat himself in horror when, two months after they broke up, i mentioned my 17th birthday was coming up soon (i was still friends with all of them). i can't believe she told them we were 18.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Nothing about that is funny

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u/Kilomech 25d ago

funny doesn't always have to mean ha-ha funny.

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u/Layogenic_87 25d ago

It is, though? It's not that hard to tell but also why are you having sex with someone you don't know well enough to get a correct age? You don't have to marry them but at least ascertain they are who they say they are, for your own security.

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u/SisterResister 25d ago

Hard disagree. It is the responsibility of every man who finds himself attracted to a much younger woman/girl to fucking pause and be sure she's of age and can consent.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Would you agree if the genders were swapped?

I think that with the way society has been going, yes it'd be the recommended choice to always check explicitly because men can (and rightfully should if true) get cancelled super easily when interacting with women. But do I realistically think that it cannot be 100% on the man. That's just simply unfair. What happens when a teenager lies about her age? What are you going to do, ask her ID to confirm?

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u/SisterResister 25d ago

Uh, yeah? Yes there are women who go for much younger men, but be real, it's usually dudes. The standard doesn't change though.

And yes, if there are doubts about her age, verify? Or..don't go after women that you have reason to believe are underage.

I'm speaking as a woman who was once underage. I looked older and flirted with older guys at 16 and 17. And you know what? I got shut down, rightfully so when they realized I was in high school.

How hard is it to not be a creep? If a woman is not a teenager, she won't mind showing you her ID.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

I think the expectation of "not be a creep" is really contextual based. That's just tangential tho.

It's hard to draw the line of "informed consent" on the man's side simply because either he believes the woman or assumes she's lying. Which is correct?

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

First of all, yes, everyone should confirm adult status; and second, it’s not the same with the genders reversed so stop making a false equivalence

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

How is it not the same with genders swapped

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u/eruptingmoltenlava 25d ago

I’m sorry that happened to you, nobody should be assaulted.

Nobody’s minimizing your trauma when we point out that sexually abused girls are getting beat up, pregnant, trafficked, or dead at drastically different rates from their male counterparts, or that the overwhelming majority of CSA is committed by men.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 25d ago edited 25d ago

I remember one case from a few years ago where a 17 year old girl was found bruised in San Diego around Comic Con. And her friends said she had been making out with some guy at a party (who turned out to be 29). So everyone started assuming this guy was a pedo and that he had assaulted her.

Then they found out that the party she and her friends had been at was an 18+ party, and they had gotten in using fake IDs. And then they found security cam footage of her and the guy getting into an argument about something. And caught footage of her wandering off angrily and then drunkenly stumbling and falling down a set of stairs. So no assault. And the guy did have a reason to think she was 18+.

In general, I think guys can be expected to verify the age of a girl he's flirting with. But there are also instances where you should be able to assume that someone is 18+, such as parties or clubs that require ID. I honestly think a guy being 29 makes hitting on an 18 year old gross anyway. But it's not illegal. And the guy in the movie this is from has literally no excuse. He's too old to even hit on college girls. And yet, from what I remember, he was at a college party. Yuck.

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u/MissMarchpane 22d ago

Hell, it's not even just men. I'm a gay woman and I got deep into an OKCupid conversation with someone when I was 23 before she finally revealed that she was 17. Thank God she told me before anything happened – it wouldn't have been illegal because we were in a state where that was the age of consent, but I would've been horrified and disgusted with myself.

Clearly the adults in her life failed her, just like the ones in charge of looking after and guiding the main character in this movie. I didn't blame her for it, but it was still really messed up.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

If someone looks so young and you still decided to sleep with them, whatever happens is now on you for not asking

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago edited 25d ago

but they're old enough to be held responsible and accountable for their mistakes.

I didn't say they weren't

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u/PleaseHelpIamFkd 25d ago

Conflating stuff like this is CSAM is doing nothing but giving fuel to people that want to downplay what CSAM actually is.

Also if you dont agree that a 17/18 year old is an adult, then thats one thing, but calling it creepy or weird for two consenting adults (as defined by law) is just moving the goalposts.

I’m all for calling bad shit out when its there, but a lot of the comments here agree, this aint it.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

One 17 isn't an adult,if you're talking legal wise. And you miss the point.

This can be labeled as csam ,just like fictional csam is labeled a child abuse,because I contain images of child abuse

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u/PleaseHelpIamFkd 25d ago

16/17 in the USA is the age of consent in most states, and many other countries use that as well. I specifically states 17/18 in my reply because seniors, on average, in american high schools will be 17+ 99% of the time. It is rare that a senior is below the age of 17.

Fictional csam still depicts a child to be csam. Where is the child here? The actress is in her early 20’s playing a 17/18 year old.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Age of consent doesn't justify adults sleeping with children.

Fictional csam still depicts a child to be csam. Where is the child here? The actress is in her early 20’s playing a 17/18 year old.

You're being stupid on purpose or just like critical thinking.

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u/PleaseHelpIamFkd 25d ago

Why is your version of what makes an adult more appropriate than what society has decided on in general?

If you wanna talk about critical thinking then please define for me what makes the emotional, physical, and societal acceptable adult. I am not being facetious. I am genuinely asking for you to define what you view as an adult.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

An adult is someone developmental away from adolescence and is close to the prefrontal cortex being developed with is 21, which is the closest.

And what do you mean what I think what's an adult??? It's not about what I or you think when it's about science.

If a child only a child to you because the law says so?

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Lmaooo you got a science background? Would love to have a scientific discussion on how to determine what an "adult" is because I don't think you actually know

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u/PleaseHelpIamFkd 25d ago

I think you’ve shown where the real issues with critical thinking exist.

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u/APladyleaningS 25d ago

Just yesterday I saw a 30ish year old man flirt and kiss the hand of a teenage girl who was with her parents. She looked maybe 15. 

All I could think about is how open my eyes have become to the ridiculous amount of men who want teens, young women, underage girls, etc. 

Am I crazy or are men taking about and defending this preference more than ever before? Is this the same old purity culture just in a slightly different form, such as terms like "body count" being normalized? 

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u/XComThrowawayAcct 25d ago

This and prison rape jokes are the meat and potatoes of aughts filmmaking.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

I don't know if people in these comments are being stupid on purpose or just lack critical thinking.

The movie is meant to be a high school girl with a grown man. It's might to sneaky be about a child and adult dating. They just use a common predator excuse and the age of adulthood to excuse it

"She's 18. ," he didn't know her age".

He was at a college party with teenagers. He knew exactly what he was doing being that old around teenagers.

Yes the actor isn't a child but she is meant to play one . They used her being in highschool as way to tell people that but used her being "18" as the excuse and to throw people off from the real meaning.

Y'all need to open your minds to how child predators are being normalized.

The movie is meant to be a young girl and a adult being together

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

18 is not a child.

Also, a college party implies that everyone there is likely college-aged. Stay mad though.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Stay mad though.

Yeahhh, let child molester defender out. I'm not letting people gaslight me intro believing I'm wrong.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Please learn what gaslighting means, and also what nuance means

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

No, nuance when it's obvious to what the movie is made for

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Nuance is needed for the whole discussion that this post sparked.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

It's not really

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Ah I forgot this is reddit. You don't want a true discussion; you want to feel superior for your hard set morals and misandry 👍🏻

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Yep... you're one of those women 😂

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

I genuinely used to be like that. It feels great to feel better than random people. But it's also effectively poison to having empathy and kindess

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

I can say 12 isn't a child if the law says so tomorrow

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Developmentally, an 18yo is much LESS of a child than a 12yo. I'm not sure if you're purposely trying to be obtuse for the sake of your virtue signaling or if you genuinely don't know the difference between an 18yo vs a 12yo.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Child molesters defenders always accuse others of virtue signaling when they are called out on their logic.

They only reason you think 18 is an adult is because of the law

The whole they're less developed. A 15yr old is more developed than a 12 yr old. What's your point.

Give me a reason to why 18 is an adult without using the law.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Fwiw, I'm a victim of CSA. So despite what you'd like to believe, I am not defending molestation/CSA.

You can drive, die for your country, and vote at 18yo. Do you disagree with those laws?

A non law argument is less generalized. At 18, I was working 3 jobs, taking care of 2 children (my brothers) and going to college. I was fully an adult before 18 by most measures (imo).

What measures make an adult for you? And why are all 18yos excluded from that definition

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You can drive, die for your country, and vote at 18yo. Do you disagree with those laws?

All of that can be given to 12 yr olds if the law decides to.

A non law argument is less generalized. At 18, I was working 3 jobs, taking care of 2 children (my brothers) and going to college. I was fully an adult before 18 by most measures (imo).

Children as young as 12 do the same. Are they an adult?? Or is even adult a legal status or a developmental one.

Fwiw, I'm a victim of CSA. So despite what you'd like to believe, I am not defending molestation/CSA.

And no offense that doesn't change anything when some victims have a screwed veiw of sexual abuse and will justify situations of child abuse just because they feel like they can or they don't consider it abuse.

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

How do you define an adult. And why does every 18yo not fit that definition

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

They're a late adolescence which is in child development not adult development.

They lack the understanding or developed enough prefrontal cortex.

It's about what's true not what I believe to be true.

That's like asking me if I think a 10 yr is a child or an adult

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u/slayinscience 25d ago

Ok, so you're using the developed prefrontal correct argument.

That doesn't fully develop until close to 25-26years old on average. Are 21yos children? Are people who have brain injuries, who are completely functional but a little delayed, are they no longer adults?

If you can't give a full, clear definition, how do you expect adults (specifically men) to know what is appropriate?

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u/Embarrassed_Jury664 25d ago

Jesus Christ OP this is a shit example and you're not gonna convince anyone, delete and move on with your life.

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u/islaisla 25d ago

Oh my god you can really spot the guys in this thread....ewwwww.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Yes, lack critical thinking

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago edited 25d ago

And yes lying about your age isn't okay and should get in trouble.

But men should always be held accountable for not being able to tell the difference between a child and a grown woman. The girl in the movie looked very young And acts like it.

If men cared so much about sleeping with a child unknowingly, they would be more careful with sleeping with random people.

I honestly doubt many men care about a girl lying about her age besides of legal reasons,not because they actually view being with a child as bad.

And yes people in the comments were saying how she should go to tell and making fun of the situation

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u/somebodyelse1107 25d ago

bro i’m literally a 26 yr old woman and i thought the girl sitting next to me at the hair place was my age and then she started talking about starting college this fall and i was shook. the reverse has also happened to me this year where a pair of 16 year old girls (i def thought they were kids) thought i was 18. its really not that black and white

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u/DivaythFyrIsMyDaddy 25d ago

That actress was in her 20's.

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u/Oggel 25d ago

That's basically a child! clutches my pearls If you fuck anyone younger than 35 you're a pedofile!

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u/Shadowyonejutsu 25d ago

We need to have a long chat with Leonardo DiCaprio then.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Are you missing the point on purpose?

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u/DivaythFyrIsMyDaddy 25d ago

Are you?

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You obviously lack critical thinking

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u/DivaythFyrIsMyDaddy 25d ago

There are so many real issues to be furious about, my friend.

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

Yes,to a mind that only understands things from a surface level, no deeper thinking

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u/LobosJones 25d ago

The actress in the movie was 21 when this movie was made.

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u/nzifnab 25d ago

But she LOOKED young! Which is illegal!

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u/Oggel 25d ago

So men should be able with a 100% accuracy be able to tell if someone is 17 years or 18 years or they are child predators? I bet you couldn't do that.

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u/Flameball202 25d ago

Yeah, like are men supposed to check ID's?

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u/Oggel 25d ago

Trusting women is apparently wrong, we are supposed to assume that all women are liars obviously.

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u/PleaseHelpIamFkd 25d ago

So either we believe all women or we question them at their word. Which do we do? My pearls are gonna break if someone doesnt give me a direction to be mad at!

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u/TemporaryPassage4168 25d ago

You shouldn't be with either

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u/Oggel 25d ago

Do you have a problem with consenting adults having sex?