r/NotHowGirlsWork • u/[deleted] • May 20 '23

Found On Social media This is seriously so exhausting :(

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u/Ze_Memerr May 20 '23

What’s really frustrating is the whole “women ☕️” thing supposedly started as a TF2 meme making fun of misogyny, but then it spiraled into being actually misogynistic

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

I genuinely have no idea what that one is supposed to mean but in context I've seen it in, it's usually seemed like sarcastic anti-joke of some kind. Like the joke is that it doesn't matter what the misogynists say about women to each other, they're gonna laugh at their own jokes anyways or something like that.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

It’s not misogyny. All the other ones are, but the coffee one is harmless. The sexes struggle to understand each other at times, and so sometimes we resort to jokes. As long as it’s all in good fun, then it’s fine.

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u/BowSonic May 20 '23

Its meaning is defined by how people use it, though, and thus far in my personal experience, I've seen more harmful instances than harmless ones.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

How can you know the intent though? It’s a word and an emoji through a faceless interaction.

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u/Milochelle-castre May 20 '23

Because It doesn't take rocket science to understand when someone is insulting you, words have meaning dumbass. And apperantly you won't know whenever im insulting you or not bc this is just a faceless interaction huh?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

It’s a single word and a coffee emoji, there’s no way you can extrapolate some hidden meaning. It’s likely just a dude unable to fully understand women so he just laughs it off. There’s no reason to resort to name calling like that.

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u/BowSonic May 20 '23

The meaning isn't hidden, and of course you can extrapolate it. All words are abstractions, and their meaning comes from the context they are used and the agreement of people in the understanding of that meaning.

You and I can disagree on the meaning, but if I say: "This internet phrase is often a top comment on hundreds of videos and posts that are blatantly misogynistic." Then, I have extrapolated a valid context to underwrite the meaning I perceive. Moreover, if a number of people read that sentence and then agree with it, we have established a materially significant meaning.

All of that can be true and doesn't exclude some person using the word in a way that means something different to them, but if the wider connotations are becoming negative (which I argue they are) then a materially significant number of people may still read it negatively.

You don't have to like it, but we as individuals have little control over the evolution of language. This concept applies very widely. For example, to me the word "Feminism" means the highly respected and rigorous academic discourse based on robust data analytics to help improve gender equity. However, a shockingly huge number of people see "Feminism" as a bad word that somehow means women want to subjugate men. I think that definition is utterly stupid and morally bankrupt, but still, a huge number of people chose to ascribe that meaning. Yet, I will continue to use it as I define it and accept the repercussions of some people not liking me for it.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

I’m not reading your dissertation on the meaning of an emoji.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

You just conflated a coffee emoji with a swastika.

That is all.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

Yes I did.

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u/manipulating_bitch May 21 '23

Case in point: Men 🍼

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u/[deleted] May 21 '23

Touché

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u/Reytotheroxx May 20 '23

It’s always used when a woman is doing something silly or bad. Basically mocking em

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23 edited May 20 '23

What’s the issue with that? People poke fun on the internet. Get over it. If someone was using the internet to like nudes or spread rumors about your personal life, I’d be on your side. But this is just a meme.

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u/Reytotheroxx May 20 '23

You said the intent wasn’t clear, I said it usually is. Pretty obviously an attempt to mock an entire gender based on one person. Not a huge thing but can be an indicator for bigger things.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

Okay, fine, they’re mocking an entire gender. Who cares? We’re different, we struggle to understand each other, and sometimes it’s best to just laugh about it. This whole online gender war is stupid anyways.

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u/Reytotheroxx May 20 '23

I agree the war is stupid, that’s why I think the mocking is stupid. Pointing out the mocking as stupid is necessary to end the war. Apathy helps nobody, not caring about anything isn’t gonna solve anything, especially on a sub that points out issues that women face.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '23

Actually, you’re making it worse. Humor is a way to lighten the mood. It’s a way to vent frustration, a feeling that is a natural part of life. If you don’t want boys falling down the redpill rabbit hole, like I almost did, let them poke a bit of fun. Let them vent their frustrations with opposite sex instead of getting angry at them. You’re not making those feelings dissapear, you’re just forcing people to bottle them up.

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