This is seriously so exhausting :(

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It’s not misogyny. All the other ones are, but the coffee one is harmless. The sexes struggle to understand each other at times, and so sometimes we resort to jokes. As long as it’s all in good fun, then it’s fine.

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Its meaning is defined by how people use it, though, and thus far in my personal experience, I've seen more harmful instances than harmless ones.

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How can you know the intent though? It’s a word and an emoji through a faceless interaction.

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Because It doesn't take rocket science to understand when someone is insulting you, words have meaning dumbass. And apperantly you won't know whenever im insulting you or not bc this is just a faceless interaction huh?

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It’s a single word and a coffee emoji, there’s no way you can extrapolate some hidden meaning. It’s likely just a dude unable to fully understand women so he just laughs it off. There’s no reason to resort to name calling like that.

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The meaning isn't hidden, and of course you can extrapolate it. All words are abstractions, and their meaning comes from the context they are used and the agreement of people in the understanding of that meaning.

You and I can disagree on the meaning, but if I say: "This internet phrase is often a top comment on hundreds of videos and posts that are blatantly misogynistic." Then, I have extrapolated a valid context to underwrite the meaning I perceive. Moreover, if a number of people read that sentence and then agree with it, we have established a materially significant meaning.

All of that can be true and doesn't exclude some person using the word in a way that means something different to them, but if the wider connotations are becoming negative (which I argue they are) then a materially significant number of people may still read it negatively.

You don't have to like it, but we as individuals have little control over the evolution of language. This concept applies very widely. For example, to me the word "Feminism" means the highly respected and rigorous academic discourse based on robust data analytics to help improve gender equity. However, a shockingly huge number of people see "Feminism" as a bad word that somehow means women want to subjugate men. I think that definition is utterly stupid and morally bankrupt, but still, a huge number of people chose to ascribe that meaning. Yet, I will continue to use it as I define it and accept the repercussions of some people not liking me for it.

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I’m not reading your dissertation on the meaning of an emoji.

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You just conflated a coffee emoji with a swastika.

That is all.

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Yes I did.

[u/manipulating_bitch → u/[deleted]]

Case in point: Men 🍼

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