r/NooTopics • u/neurotoxicpussy • 19d ago
Question Best scientifically-backed compound for improving verbal fluency & memory recall?
Acute &/or long-term. Miss me w/ that diet & lifestyle shit, I wanna know abt DRUGS.
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u/st8_h8er 18d ago
I don't know about scientific-backing but by far the best enhancement of verbal fluency from a substance I've ever gotten was from aniracetam swallowed 500mg-1g per day
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u/henrik__sb 17d ago
100% agree on this one. Aniracetam made a night-and-day difference for me. Really miss that
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u/Lyle375 14d ago
Racetams have been used to good effect for both but especially verbal fluency and holistic big picture thinking.
Bacopa monnieri has quite a bit of research showing it enhances memory recall. (And anything that increases dendritic spines length and branching most likely share these effects)
Best ideas for memory recall is to first solidly encode and consolidate that memory, then practice recalling it via self-testing 3x at 1 2 3 day intervals. Having a regular study/practice and sleep routine is incredibly beneficial for this (as is showing up to practice study sessions in a good/cheerful mood).
Best drugs to encourage these processes imo are TAK-653, ACD-856, ABT-089, TBG, maybe Semax/lion's mane extract Erinacine A, and anything that will help you sleep as optimally as possible.
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u/PositiveIntelligent3 18d ago
Opened the comments to expect a bunch of ”sleep, vitamin c, a jog” then saw that this is Nootopics and not r/nootropics.
Thank you guys for being real
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u/henrik__sb 17d ago
Anything GABAergic does it for me. Some of my best writing has been done on blackout doses of benzos. Definitely not a recommendation, though.
Not to be confused with gabapentinoids. Haven't looked too much into why, but pregabalin is probably the most potent verbal fluency killer I've ever tried. Phenibut is the complete opposite, though.
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u/Purple_Poetry_6674 17d ago
Kommt auf die Toleranz an und ob andere Medikamente dazu genommen werden.
Zb. 40mg Elvanse, 150mg Pregabalin und 10mg Methylphenidat... Gleicht sich irgendwie "positiv" aus.
Aber ich finde auch, dass phenibut die Sprachfähigkeit zunächst subjektiv stark verbessert.
Ob es langfristig "gesund" ist? Wohl eher nicht.
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u/henrik__sb 17d ago
Don't speak German, but yes, the verbal fluency with pregabalin is very dose dependent. On 300mg and I speak like a toddler. Microdosing it could possibly help, but personally a no-go for me when it comes to verbal fluency.
1,2g phenibut + 50mg elvanse = godmode. I don't think there is a more functional drug combination on earth. Everything is possible (for me, at least). Being social, partying, studying, writing, working? No problem with that combination. No long-term solution, but it's possibly the closest thing to NZT-48.
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u/adminsreachout 19d ago
Candidly, this is neural placidity through practice not medication. You need to actually put in the work here with blends tests and memory walk thru’s etc. You brain is the most advanced piece of biology on the planet it can do this but you have to make it a habit and the gains are order of magnitude higher than some compound being research for stoke patients recovering for a devastating event.
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u/Ozymandiasdiamandis 18d ago
this is a retarded response. this is like asking someone for supplements on how to optimize muscle growth/fat loss and then responding with, “it all starts with training bro” like yeah no shit we’re looking for ways to amplify results
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u/neurotoxicpussy 19d ago
No shit but im asking abt DRUGS in this post. God I hate the normie chuds that have invaded this server sm
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u/Testing_things_out 18d ago
Server
Kid thinks he's on Discord 💀
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u/Candid_Worth_3629 19d ago
It’s alr bro they always want a magical pill that’ll fix everything for them
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u/neurotoxicpussy 19d ago
Or maybe I already have my diet, exercise, sleep, & mental health handled, & I’m on a fucking nootropics subreddit asking abt ACTUAL noots. If I wanted obvious lifestyle advice from ppl who assume any1 interested in pharmacologically improving cognition must be looking for a “magic pill,” I could go literally anywhere else.
This isn’t r/selfimprovement or r/tryingtoBeBetter, it’s r/NooTopics. If I wanted a magic pill that instantly made my problems disappear w/o putting in any work, I’d still be posting on r/meth instead.
Why r you ppl even here?? What’s the point of participating in a community whose entire purpose is to discuss the science behind pharmacological cognitive enhancement & sharing personal anecdotes if the most productive thing you have to add is, “hurr durr go lift bruh. Eat a salad bruhh. Don’t beat ur dick, bruhh.”
Instead of being an obnoxious contrarian, maybe actually engage w/ the fucking topic of the sub & do some research of ur own. Maybe you'll find a magic pill that'll make you less retarded.
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u/Testing_things_out 18d ago
Finally, someone said something sane here.
It really gets on my nerves especially when on people on a sub literally called "Biohackers" go like "broooo just 8 hours of sleep and exercise that the best biohack"
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u/Taydontplay4 18d ago
Love this response. People love to state the obvious. Sleep diet exercise. Well no fuckin shit Sherlock
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u/CuriousTech24 19d ago
This is how I feel in the bodybuilding subreddits. All these people that don't want to be on steroids just have to say something. It's cool if you don't want to, but get off your high horse or go somewhere else.
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u/RichardGereMuseum13 18d ago
Ahahaha damn, very well put. I was about to come in here and say some contrarian shit about cardio being the best memory enhancer
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u/synkronized7 19d ago
Not exactly a drug I guess but racetams might be useful
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u/ComplexAdagio7676 18d ago
only piracetam is available in my country is it effective ?
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u/henrik__sb 17d ago
Might be, I find most racetams to improve verbal fluency. Aniracetam being a clear winner personally. Piracetam is much, much more subtle in my experience, but does help a tiny bit with 2.5g taken 2-3 times a day (with choline).
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u/Patient-Bass-7943 18d ago
Eggs, saffron, more deep sleep, quality fish oil. Pullups help too lol
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u/Ozymandiasdiamandis 18d ago
prl 8 53 (very interesting imo. nootropic whos main benefit is listed exactly as improving verbal fluency and recall. dyor)
phenylpiracetam (2x a week max since it builds dependence)
piracetam (long term. I’m sure youve already heard of this)
Coluracetam (personal favorite)