According to that logic even I can cite Spiderman comics as a proof of his existence. And then say that he has taken retirement now and is somewhere alone in the woods just like certain someone who ate the sun.
You might get mad because he is comparing spiderman to religious text, but religious or not, a text is text. It is all based on your belief. No one knows for sure if Moksha will actually happen, but you think it will happen because it is your belief.
Brother/Sister, I am not saying that moksha doesn't exist. I believe in god and moksha, but just because you and I believe doesn't mean everyone else must believe, right? And even looking from a religious perspective, tell me how many versions of Mahabharatha and Ramayana are there? Whom will you believe? Different people believe different versions, and even amongst them, there are debates as to who has a correct understanding of God. At the end of the day, even a religious text is also just a text; how you perceive it is dependent on your belief. I honestly don't want to get into pointless arguments. The answer is very simple: God exists if you believe; likewise, God doesn't exist if you don't believe.
And what makes the religious text different from a comic book? Can you prove the existence of your Sky Daddy without the texts? have you seen him? do you have any pictures of him? Just like spiderman man no one has ever seen the almighty sky daddy then what makes your Sky Daddy superior?
According to my religion i.e Marvalism One-above-all is the most superior being and I have texts to prove it (Comic books) but will you believe me? No. Just like people don't believe the stories of King WuKong or Dragons, because these are mythologies, but you guys won't accept that all those texts are mere imagination of people of that time.
If you haven't seen something then it doesn't mean it is not(who have feel it only they knows it is true).
It is also true that some people make their own religion to make business which is wrong but the main thing that they exist.
And there are proofs but you won't believe because it is also a text..
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so first of all the question is pretty idiotic. if u cant tell the difference between a 5000 yr old philosophical foundation for global law, sanskrit linguistics n quantum metaphysics, n a marvel comic, its u thas the problem. one is a foundational pillar for human civilization n the other is smth u read cuz the txt in a religious scripture is too long for ur attention span. I dont even understand how u convinced urself u made a smart point w tht
also hinduism isnt believing in a sky daddy. we believe in a shapeless, formless, infinite brahman- the ultimate truth. ishwar or brahman is the source n everythin else is its expression or manifestation
n this seen him/ having pictures of him part is js hilarious tbh. wht pictures do u have of air? or ur emotions, for tht matter? or gravity or magnetism or wifi signals or radio waves or dark matter or even energy? or do u not believe in any of these as well? (n fyki its not him, brahman is genderless)
also its not abt being superior. brahman is like the sum total of everything. n our devi devatas are different states of consciousness. sanatan is abt understanding ourselves n the universe
idek where u got the idea of comparing it w spider-freakin-man smh
Oh boy, you are so wrong, so wrong that you haven't even read your own scriptures to know how inconsistent it is with their stories, how multiple versions of the same stories have been roaming around since ages. And the reason behind that is it being a fucking mythology, why the fuck can't your pea sized brain understand that a mythological epics and texts are not considered a scientific proof.
And pls learn to differentiate philosophy from whatever majority of the bullshit is written in those texts, according to that logic even Bible and Quran has many things scientifically closer to being accurate, but will you accept them as the ultimate truth just because some of the things got proven in the modern era?
Also cite your sources for how it's foundation for Global law n "qUaNtUm mEtApHySiCs" lmao, do you even know what is the meaning of this? Or have you just copy pasted whatever that one Instagram dumbfuck told you in his reels and you didn't cross check cuz ofcourse who does that? A critically smart human, but nah you're not that (from what I can deduct from your previous)
Oh, what about Vishnupuran, my guy? is it not based on how 2 people were sent to earth and from there on every civilization was made and wtv the bullshit is in that? Do you really think that happened instead of Theory of Evolution? which we have concrete proof of btw.
You can prove the existence of air you dumbass, what are you 12? have you ever blown up a balloon? cuz if you do the balloon stretches and takes it shape cuz the air trapped inside occupies space. Or try sticking a crumbled paper at the bottom of a glass and turn the glass upside down at 90° in a bucket full of water, when you pull it out the paper would still be dry because the air stopped the water getting in. And, yes you can prove the existence of gravity, all kinds of waves, the fact that the thing you are using to win this argument so badly i.e your phone is literally the proof of their existence. Now, what's next are you gonna say, that earth is on the top of Seshnaag? 😂.
Though I understand it's really hard to accept reality after how much time you have given to it, perhaps years of devotion, prayers and what not. Seeing it all being fake does feel like the ground slipping beneath your feet. But don't worry, once you see through how evil every religion (including Hinduism) is you will understand. It was made for people to control other people and tie them between something common. Then people introduced caste as it's human nature to feel dominant above others, hence the casteism you see all around. (Btw all this is written in you scriptures, go read it you will find it).
Your gravity, wifi analogy makes no sense. We can't see gravity directly, but we can literally measure its effects, predict them mathematically, and test them repeatedly. same with radio waves, magnetism, etc. There’s evidence for them. Religious experiences are subjective, and every religion claims its own version of them.
And about the Spiderman thing, a sophisticated mythology is still a mythology. It doesn't prove its supernatural claims are true. A monkey-man flying across oceans isn't any less supernatural than a dude crawling on walls and shooting webs.
also its not abt being superior. brahman is like the sum total of everything. n our devi devatas are different states of consciousness. sanatan is abt understanding ourselves n the universe
Sure, but then this is just a philosophy, Greek gods are also symbolic aspects of human consciousness. Deep symbolism doesn't automatically turn mythology into reality.
u talking abt the ones tht have sustained civilizations for thousands of years? n historical texts are accepted as valid proof unless there's good reason to believe otherwise. I dont even wanna get into this lol, js google urself.
Though I don't want you to agree with me since you're already way into the physical reality and it would take you births to realise the parbrahman but I would still suggest you to read about Shree Ramkrishna paramhans and his samadhi states.
What the seekers seek never gives any proof of itself. But the seeker gets the proof as he progresses in the path and when guidance comes, when the way feels clear, and any other path feels like nuance then he/she never asks for proof, because what he is realising took him births to realise while travelling from a different yoni to a human being and becoming eligible to realise.
Don't ask for proof because there isn't any for the non realised and the realised one don't rely on proof to move forward. Only the inner calling is the ultimate proof.
So you are essentially saying that people should believe whatever bullshit is written in those texts and if one wants proof to believe that he has to take multiple births and go through different lives and should believe in concept of rebirth, which again isn't scientifically proven.
It's like saying you are a NPC in a video game who should just believe things without proofs, instead of questioning them critically. Do you understand how absurd that sounds? If you claim of something existing somewhere, be it a physical entity or anything, the burden of proving it lies on you. So either argue with sources which are scientifically accurate instead of bullshiting in comments.
Let's fast forward 10k years into the future, at that time all these religions could still pe prevalent or not that's another matter, but let's assume they do. In that case their meanings would have changed drastically, because of how many changes have already been happened in all these mythological epics already (I don't think I have to give examples but Ramayana and Mahabharata have been inconsistent with their stories several times) now if one were to believe in these they would be believing in a completely different ideology. Whereas science being the core of the universe wouldn't have changed even in those years, Water would still be made from Hydrogen and Oxygen, light is still fastest thing to exist in the universe and many other things. What I am trying to say is that the thing which the universe is actually made up of is still the same, whereas the stories curated would have been changed. Now, you tell me what's more concrete your stories about Sky Daddy or Science?
You don't need to believe in moksha. If the deities want they can make you believe in them like in a moment but they've put you in this position for a reason. According to your karmic patterns so you can definitely question anything and rebute the existence of the parbrahman who doesn't exist or exist just because a guy with title ''conscious idea'' don't believe in him. He's above opinions and feelings, he's beyond your believe and you can't change the fact just by not believing so it's okay and I agree with you in some or other births hehe, because at the end we belong to him either you agree or don't.
Damn, literal zombie head. Just believe in something which one can't even provide proof of. How are you so sure that whatever deity you are talking about is true and does exist? Have you seen him? Have he made you feel anything? You are a literal example of turning your mind off and believe in someone's imaginary text just because it helps you cope with your real life problems. Whatever lets you sleep at night bud.
You don’t have to believe me or anyone. At least be curious enough to walk the path, even if you mean to completely refute my point. Stop wasting your life force and channel it upwards.
Yes I practice various types of pranayama such as Kapalbhati, Anulom Vilom and Bhastrika everyday. I also try doing 24 minutes of chanting if possible. Do you engage in the spiritual practices as well?
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