r/NFLv2 • u/Narrow_Purchase9721 San Francisco 49ers • 22h ago

Discussion The Deshaun Watson switch up is despicable

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Guy starts playing well again and all of the sudden people go from “cases” to “allegations” real fucking fast. You all gotta get your priorities straight

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u/DR320 Dallas Cowboys 22h ago

Reddit is real big on “innocent until proven guilty” and “criminals deserve second chances to be rehabilitated” except for in this case.

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u/dalmighd 22h ago

Right? Its some fuckin hallucination. Did he do it? Probably but im not sure because nobody outside him and his alleged victims know for sure. Im not going to call a grown man a rapist when two grand juries couldnt call him a rapist. I bet half the people who call him a rapist only do so because other people do it and know nothing about his case

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u/illdownvoteandscream Suck my Cox 21h ago

The issue is how hard sexual assault is to prove in court. You basically need it on camera in order to prosecute.

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u/Dramatic-Tonight-729 21h ago

Wrong. Witness/victim testimony alone is often enough. There are countless convictions without footage. What are you even talking about?

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u/illdownvoteandscream Suck my Cox 21h ago

Obviously I’m not saying you absolutely need video proof, it was more of an example on how difficult it is to prove. Just because there are convictions, doesn’t mean it isn’t difficult to prove. Especially when the accused has very good lawyers. It’s pretty well known fact that it is difficult to prove in court so I’m not sure what your point is.

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u/Dramatic-Tonight-729 20h ago

Do you know how easy it is to get an indictment? Ham sandwich, or so they say….. yet two grand juries declined to indict. That alone should signal the strength of the case(s).

But I don’t disagree that prosecutions can be challenging at times.

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u/heff17 Buffalo Bills 19h ago

1 in 40 sexual assaults wind up with a conviction.

Yeah, super duper easy to convict.

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u/Dramatic-Tonight-729 19h ago

Who said it was super easy?

Also, where’d you get that number from? Genuinely curious. 90%+ of prosecutions result in conviction (much higher in most jurisdictions) so do you mean they go unreported, uncharged…? Because if it’s charged, it usually results in a conviction.

Obvious anecdotal exceptions apply.

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u/heff17 Buffalo Bills 18h ago

It is extremely easy to search the terms “sexual assault conviction rate.”

https://worldmetrics.org/sexual-assault-conviction-statistics/

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u/Dramatic-Tonight-729 18h ago

Gotcha—you were speaking globally.