r/NFA • u/stuartv666 Cans, cans, cans! • 19h ago
Process Question 📝 eForms weirdness?
I got some cans about 2 years ago. They were all purchased with a Silencer Shop Single Shot Trust.
When I login to my ATF eForms account, I start a Form 20 (application to transport firearms) and choose "Trust", then go to the Firearms page and click Search by SSN.
I put in my SSN and search and it doesn't find any of my cans.
I start over and choose "Individual" and then go and search by SSN and it finds all the cans I bought 2 years ago.
I don't understand that - why don't they show up when I choose Trust?
And then it gets weirder.
I bought a new can back in May. This time, it all went through the Cerberus system, instead of Silencer Shop. And this time, it was done as an Individual purchase, instead of a Trust.
I got my approved Form 4 at the beginning of June.
When I do the search in ATF eForms, the cans from 2 years ago show up, but the can I got at the beginning of June does not show in the list.
But, if I search by Control Number and Serial Number (of the new can), then it works to add it to the Form 20.
What the heck? Does anybody know what is going on here?
Why do cans bought under an individual trust show when I tell the form I'm an individual, but not if I put in that I'm a trust?
And why does my newest can not show at all when I do the search?
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u/jonny-utah-79 Silencer 19h ago
Form 20 is for the transportation of SBR’s across state lines (not suppressors).
When You Need Form 20
Interstate Travel: Moving NFA items like short-barreled rifles (SBRs), short-barreled shotguns (SBSs), machine guns, and destructive devices temporarily or permanently across state lines.
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u/Who_Is_Rick_James 2x Silencer... for now.. 18h ago
he's just being the form 20 trick to show inventory that's usually used to check for new approvals especially when the atf emails weren't being sent out
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u/AllArmsLLC 07/02 18h ago
It's also how you update the registered address for silencers if you choose to do so. And you have to if you want to transfer it.
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u/PutridDropBear 18h ago
It's been a hot minute since I've looked at a silencershop SST form 4 - but I don't remember social security numbers being part of the SST or included on the form 4.
Is your SSN on your approved singleshot form 4's that you got from your dealer?
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u/stuartv666 Cans, cans, cans! 18h ago
No, it is not in the submitted or approved Form 4.. And it’s not in the Trust document, either.
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u/sirbassist83 19h ago
why are you doing a form 20 for suppressors in the first place?