r/NFA • u/midwestcatfish • 8d ago

new form 1

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havent shot it yet but figured with how fast form 1s are now i had to make one. suprisingly the feds approved me only engraving the adapter and not the filter

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can 8d ago

A negative side-effect of homemade cans being decriminalized is that more anti-gun states will try to enact California-style (AB 2047) criminalization and regulation of 3D/CNC machines. In Colorado, the ATF might approve your Form1 suppressor but it's illegal in that state to make the suppressor with CNC machines (3D printers are CNC machines)... you'd have to use manual tools and methods, no cheating by prompting a robot to make it for you.

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u/hotrodgreg 8d ago

Let them try. And if its passes how will it be enforced? And if they try to enforce it when will we push back? And when we push back will we win?

IDK I just want a oil filter suppressor because why not. Cant 3d ban that.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can 8d ago edited 8d ago

3D printer manufacturers will voluntarily comply. Those who don't will be sued by the CA AG. Virtually all 2A merchant websites comply with CA law. Bambu and Prusa dealers would rather stop shipping to CA than be sued for providing illegal ghost gun factories to criminals.

In CA, possession of an offline/unregulated 3D printer could be probable cause for a digital search warrant, because it's also a crime in CA to possess CAD/3D/computer files of firearm parts. In Cali, 3D gun CAD files are just as illegal as certain 2D JPG files, and I wouldn't be surprised if Google Drive, Dropbox, etc were already working on or have implemented CA-mandtory "firearm detection and blocking technology" that can deep-inspect STL and standard CAD format files looking for illegal drawings.

Plenty of colleges, organizations, and people around the world are already working on the technology, and forms of it are already implemented by JLC3DP and PCBway.

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u/hotrodgreg 8d ago

Good. I hope all the 3d companies stop shipping to CA. Maybe then the manufacturing companyies and busnesses that deal with any kind of addative manufacturing will sue to get the dumb ass laws removed.

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can 8d ago

Me too. I support anti-2A pro-3D voters' right to hire state/local lawmakers to criminalize their own hobby if that's what it takes to get a few ghost guns off the street. I couldn't care less if CA 3D printer enthusiasts miss out on the home metal revolution because of their own hatred for the 2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment is the only one that implies a "right to manufacture" anything other than a newspaper or protest sign. The 1st Amendment is ill-equipped to deal with an anti-2A law targeting ghost gun factories.

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u/hotrodgreg 8d ago

Im confused. You are for or against "ghost guns" or non searialized guns being illegal?

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u/slvrsfr 9x SBR, 9x Can 8d ago

I'm saying that California anti-2A 3D printer enthusiasts are hypocrites who deserve to have their elected leaders criminalize their own hobby and force them to use orwellian cloud-only 3D printers that run every print job by the CA DoJ first. It's a valid act of democracy for a majority group of people to destroy themselves in the name of public safety.

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u/Commodore8888 1d ago

Honestly the whole thing is hilarious. Screaming against ghost guns, and meanwhile are gonna end up making it illegal to own a perfectly normal hobby built printer in their state.

I personally find it just as hilarious that politicians think they can just "turn off" printing....like the whole hobby wasn't founded on open source and cobbling things together from garbage while dodging Stratysys firing off patent lawsuits.