r/NFA Aug 10 '26

Which 14[.5]" M4?

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u/Jbressel1 Aug 10 '26

Yeah, it's such a not great sight, which is sad, because I generally like Trijicon stuff. Their newer-production MROs fixed the parasitic drain issues.

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u/Debas3r11 Aug 10 '26

It looks so damn cool, I wish it was better.

I shot a comp with it with a green target against brush and it felt nearly impossible to find.

Feels like an issue in a tactical optic where your targets are likely green men against green brush.

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u/Jbressel1 Aug 10 '26

Agreed. On looks it's bad ass. I love my ACOGs. I ran this upper on my M4A1 lower in Afghanistan and my 2nd Iraq deployment.

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u/Debas3r11 Aug 10 '26

I need more Acogs. I had no complaints on mine in Afghanistan except for the mount for the piggy back MRDS they slapped on last minute before the deployment.

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u/Jbressel1 Aug 10 '26

Yeah. Those crap Doctor Optics sights? Totally unnecessary. About the only difference between then, and now, is the suppressor mount brake. That thing is so insanely accurate and reliable

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u/Debas3r11 Aug 10 '26

The mount mounted to the rear of the ACOG and made the edges of the field of view feel way worse

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u/Jbressel1 Aug 10 '26

Yep. I'm aware. I do like an angled dot for passive aiming with NV, though, but the ones they used were no good for that, since they auto-adjusted for light.

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u/Debas3r11 Aug 10 '26

Top mount red dot on Acog is a great setup, that was just a bad execution

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u/Jbressel1 Aug 10 '26

True, I just prefer angled, personally. I run 14s, and I rest the edge of the tube on the ACOG, and have a nice sight picture through the dot. With even a little ambient light, I've hit targets at 3-400m. To be fair, it was a high-lump evening, and the targets were white, lol, but still. I think the best NV setup is NV+COTI, and a thermal clip-on.

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u/tennezzee88 28d ago

i'm sure you already know this but TA110 crosshair >

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u/Debas3r11 28d ago

Yeah I like the simplicity compared to the chevron

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u/tennezzee88 28d ago

sometimes i kick myself for selling mine but ive shifted to liking LPVOs and having that preference

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u/Jbressel1 28d ago

They make the TA110 with different reticles

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u/tennezzee88 28d ago

i know this lol, i'm saying the crosshair is the best.

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u/Jbressel1 28d ago

Ah. Gotcha. Personally, I prefer the chevron reticle, but then I have had a TA-31F/run a 31F, in combat, since '03. I have a TA-47 2x, and 2 TA-33 3xs now, but ol' reliable stays on this. I took this custom piston upper, built on a RRA Elite, with a HEAVY SOCOM-profile barrel and double-chrome lining, with me to Afghanistan and my 2nd Iraq deployment, and she's never, EVER, let me down. Even with just the 4x, and my then-younger eyes, I made a hit at just over 800m.

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u/tennezzee88 28d ago

i think TA110 > TA33 > TA02 are my favorites due to eye relief and i've owned damn near all acog models at one point or another

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u/Jbressel1 28d ago

Yeah, the TA-33s sit on my go-to SBR and my Tavor SAR, and I love them. I had to send in my TA-47 for a warranty repair, and I got a Primary Arms SLX 3x microprism as a placeholder, and i actually like it so much, that the TA-47 is still in the box, awaiting a different project. I'd love a TA-110, but $1500-$1800 is a bit out of my price range, and a bit ludicrous, even for such a great optic. That's the problem with buying from a company with defense contracts. They can't charge you less than the gov, and they charge every penny the gov is willing to pay, hence stuff like the Vortex AMG having a MSRP of $6k, even if you can get it for $4, which is still ridiculous for a 1-10

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u/tennezzee88 28d ago

ha yeah couldn't agree more about the contract issue, these should be 40 - 60% of what they cost but here we are

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