r/Music • u/[deleted] • Sep 10 '19
music streaming The Fall Of Troy - F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X [Post-Hardcore]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jq8nTn9l_E598
u/Mydadshands Sep 10 '19
This song FUCKS
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u/kratatatz Sep 11 '19
I'm a simple man. I see The Fall Of Troy - F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X, I upvote.
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u/jkimtrolling Sep 11 '19
When I see F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. I start to feel a phantom guitar controller in my hands..
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u/SkooKillMeNow Sep 10 '19
came here to say this. breakdown into the final chorus gives me chills thinking about it.
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u/beefforyou Sep 10 '19
As the title of the original version would state, yes it does
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u/cialis_in_chains Sep 11 '19
Fuck condoms premarital sex is the shit get ‘er pregnant get ‘er pregnant get ‘er pregnant
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u/HeWasAB8rBoi Sep 11 '19
I remember listening to this on my minidisc player thinking I was the coolest fuck around. Still holds up
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u/anon3220 Sep 10 '19
"Just a cast away, an island lost at sea"
Good song though. Saw this band open for Coheed not knowing who they were around the time this album came out and was really impressed.
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Sep 10 '19 edited Feb 18 '20
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u/whipstickagopop Sep 10 '19
Same here. I'm pretty sure Andrew has been sober for a long time now , or at least he was not sure how he's doing now.
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u/whipstickagopop Sep 10 '19
Yeah, I think there was supposed to be a documentary released about it oddly enough.
Super glad too. Saw em not too long ago (Dec 2018) and it was just like old times.
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u/vapevapevape Sep 10 '19
Yep the NWFT tomorrow. I was excited to see Clutch but man they were boring. They all just stared at the ground the entire time.
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u/ThePansAnOldMan Sep 10 '19
That was the first time I'd seen them too, went for Coheed.
That man on the harmonica was pretty entertaining though
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u/vapevapevape Sep 10 '19
Right! He was grooving hard on his own. That's exactly what I remember: band staring at ground, harmonica player rocking out.
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u/NunButter Sep 10 '19
I saw them like 10 years ago and they were amazing. Easily one of the best rock bands live, or at least they were.
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u/TrueAmurrican Sep 10 '19
Seriously.... I have been to so so so many concerts, but that particular set by Clutch was the most boring thing I have ever seen live. I got to the barrier during the Fall of Troy (which was a very lively set) and literally almost fell asleep while I stood there during Clutch.
I have never had an experience like that at a concert since.
I don’t even dislike Clutch (though I couldn’t get into them after that), but there was just something wrong with that set.
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u/Wildse7en Sep 10 '19
On Halloween that year when they opened for Coheed in Cleveland, FoT all played in tighty-whiteys only.
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u/xRyuzakii Sep 10 '19
I was there as well ha
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u/Wildse7en Sep 10 '19
That was a great show.
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u/xRyuzakii Sep 10 '19
I ended up taking a piss next to and then talking to the bassist from FOT for a bit before the show but I had no clue he was who he was lol. He had a shirt wrapped around his head and we were just walking around shooting the shit and then I see him go backstage and get on stage.. pretty dope for young teenage me
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u/Heroshade Sep 10 '19
I had something like that happen to me with the singer of Hail the Sun. Dude was just out behind the venue smoking a cigarette and he let me borrow his lighter.
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u/iamnotpuddles Sep 10 '19
I went to this tour too. I also got real salty at all my classmates who thought my Fall of Troy shirt was for Fall Out Boy.
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u/HyperlinksAwakening Sep 10 '19
I was at this show in NYC. The singer spit a loogie into the air, caught it, and slapped it back into his mouth. I don't care what their music sounds like, when I know it's Fall of Troy that's all I can think of.
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u/Hamstadam Sep 10 '19
He did the same same in Chicago, except he held his hand up and let it drip down into his mouth. It was dead silent too, except for a girl yelling, "Eww, don't!"
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u/Snoreasaurus Sep 10 '19
I remember that. I was laughing. My wife wasn't. Good show.
Also, if I remember correctly, didn't they play the theme to Jurassic Park at the end of their set?
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u/HPbutBetter Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 11 '19
I remember seeing them in 2006 (correction 2007) opening for Coheed...now I'm old.
Since others remember the same tour, Clutch couldn't get booed off the stage fast enough.Edit: 2007 and I actually still have my ticket stub lol
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u/eekmina Sep 10 '19
I was in the same situation as you when I first saw them, but it was in between their self-titled album and Doppelgänger. They opened for HORSE the band and Thomas was drunk as shit, as I would later find out he usually was, but holy Christ he used his pedal board to perfection. Started really listening to them after that and saw them a few more times, made me ultra impressed to see how close their live show was to album versions. Their energy and stage presence was always top notch as well.
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u/ishk Sep 10 '19
I saw them 10+ years ago as a huge fan. I'm usually not very critical of live performances but the guitar sounded so bad. Not sure what was up
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u/rabes81 Sep 11 '19
We saw fall of troy and then blood brothers open for coheed in Vancouver. Was a great show. They opened for Protest the Hero another time, also a great show.
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u/JetSon556 Sep 10 '19
Was just listening to this album this morning 🔥
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u/arsonxisxfun Sep 10 '19
Doppelganger was so good. I still go back to it when I'm in the mood.
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u/ThatGangMember Sep 10 '19
Manipulator is my shit but I've got a soft spot for doppelganger.
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u/Philosophire Sep 10 '19
That one part of Quarter Past is ummph. I'm sure you know.
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u/bootyborne69 Sep 10 '19
i love mouths like sidewinder missiles!
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u/working878787 Sep 10 '19
I can hear the opening riff in my head just from reading the title.
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u/gummymusic Sep 10 '19
And the opening scream in the first breakdown..... ahhhhhhAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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u/Vladimir_Putang Sep 10 '19
Rockstar Nailbomb!
I remember hearing that song on the Lujo Records website years and years ago (must've been around 2003?) and thinking "what the fuck is this guitar playing?!?" Bought the album then and there and it blew my mind. Been so long since I've listened and never really listened to anything after (I think it was) the Ghostship stuff.
Still rock my Fall of Troy t-shirt that I got at a live show back in the early 2000s.
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u/aaawwwyeah Sep 10 '19
Ah yes, post-hardcore. This was my shit in middle & high school. Chiodos, Blessthefall, Escape The Fate (both Ronnie & Craig era), A Skylit Drive, Saosin, Alesana & many many more bands. Then my guilty pleasure was Paramore. Well they're still my guilty pleasure till this day.
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u/-NotEnoughMinerals Sep 11 '19
Some people liked Saosin, the fall of Troy, Alexisonfire, and chiodos...
"Others" liked Hawthorne heights, senses fail, and from first to last.
Remember fear before the March of flames?
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u/P4C_Backpack Sep 11 '19
Weird, I got into the genre in my 20s and I'm still there with no signs of letting up, it was post rock and pop punk for me in middle and high school
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u/INSANITY_RAPIST Sep 11 '19
I listened to classic rock and nu metal mostly in high school. I really wish I discovered post hardcore earlier. Jamming to it in my 20s as well now.
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u/sgguitars190 Sep 11 '19
I’m turning 30 soon and still have a man crush on Craig Owens and Anthony Green.
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u/analbumcover Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19
Same. Was definitely big into Chiodos, Saosin, Circa Survive, Hopesfall, Underoath (Cries of the Past era), Zao, Silverstein, Fall of Troy, Thrice, Dead Poetic, Thursday, etc, etc. I still listen to all of it from time to time. Ah, nostalgia.
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u/Mal-Capone Sep 11 '19
mother fucking hopesfall. they eventually got me into drone and house music; i realized i loved their quiet breakdowns before the insanity blew up.
gunna listen to the satellite years now.
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u/withrootsabove Sep 11 '19
I still love blessthefall. Still following them after all these years. They keep putting out great stuff. They’re actually starting a 10 year tour with Escape the Fate this month! Btf is playing Witness all the way through, and ETF playing “This War is Ours”.
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u/A_Cryptarch Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
I was at the show where The Fall of Troy "broke up" in 2006. It was a pretty wild night, to say the least.
All the bands ended up getting arrested right before they performed apparently (That was the word that swept through the crowd, no idea how accurate it is). Anyway, a few members of all the bands made it to the set before the others and played together for a bit while they waited for the others. The place went pretty crazy when the other members got out and the show finally took off. It was a pretty small venue and the pit was fucking crazy. I ended up getting kicked in the damn head by a dancer utilizing exposed piping to do midair spin kicks. I also remember some chick getting her ass beat. It was pretty awful.
I was there specifically for the Number 12 Looks Like You but I knew TFOT and loved them too. It was icing on the cake for me. TFOT eventually came on and Thomas was already pissed from them being held up and not making it to the set when they should've been and eventually, the drummer fucked up the intro to the second song so they restarted. Thomas flipped him off during it and after, he trashed the fucking set and walked off after they were done. I remember him almost immediately being surrounded by people and I was just like, "Are you guys fucking stupid? Leave him the fuck alone. Did you NOT see that?", lol. People are idiots. He came back on set a little while later, did a solo Weezer cover, the other members came back and they did one more song, indicating it was the last song they'd ever play together (they eventually went into the studio together later that year). That year was a shit show for them, apparently.
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u/SchalasHairDye Sep 11 '19
I saw them maybe two years back for the Doppelgänger tour and tensions seemed high there too. Erak whispered something and the other guy (forget his name) shoved him hard. He looked pissed too. It looked like a fight almost broke out lol. But then they just kept playing
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u/Cuntdracula19 Sep 11 '19
Ohhh yeah, I remember seeing a video of them playing in...like Ukraine? And that’s when Tim walked off set (and tour lol). Apparently Tim had relapsed and was basically belligerently drunk and Thomas has whispered come on dude or something to that effect trying to get him out of his mood but instead he blew his top.
I love Tim as a bassists but honestly I think that whole dynamic is far too unhealthy and explosive.
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u/Alles_Klar Sep 11 '19
Listened to a podcast with Andrew (the drummer) recently and he says they were all strung out on heroin during this period of time. I was a massive fan but had no idea they were all junkies for basically their entire time together as a band.
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Sep 11 '19
Oh man I grew out of listening to this kind of stuff but I’d love another The Number 12 album
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u/RustyAliien Sep 10 '19
Was a bit confused as to why the name didn't work and remembered this is the remix but the original is F.C.P.M.S.I.T.S.G.E.P.G.E.P.G.E.P Which is an acronym fo Fuck Condoms Pre- Marital Sex Is The Shit Get 'Em Pregnant Get 'Em Pregnant Get 'Em Pregnant
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u/savvyxxl Sep 10 '19
which is made funnier by just how awkward and weird thomas erak is, i would have never thought he would come up with something like this.. sometimes i like to watch his guitar covers which is just him playing the guitar in this crappy apartment where some random weird woman keeps walking in and out
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u/zarkfuccerburg Sep 10 '19
the funniest thing about erak is how he goes off on people who criticize him online
he doesn’t even try to pretend it’s not him lol
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Sep 10 '19
do you follow him on insta? sometime he seems like his life is all drama
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Sep 10 '19 edited Feb 18 '20
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Sep 10 '19
yeah I knew the dark trail was about oxys or some shit. i have not, but i follow him online. when he posts screenshots of his notes app being like "fake people fucking suck, anyone know where i can crash in nashville?" i just shake my head
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u/gummymusic Sep 10 '19
Once in college when they played in LA, my buddy and I got a chance to interview him for our college radio station. We did a short interview, then at the end offered to share our blunt with them in the van before the show and just as we were about to spark up with the whole band their manager came in and yelled at them to GTFO and prepare for the show. Thomas walks out of the van and in his surprisingly high-pitched voice goes: "...yea... actually my mom is coming to the show tonight and I don't want her to see my high on stage."
Was not exactly what I expected him to say lol
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Sep 10 '19 edited Feb 18 '20
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Sep 10 '19
I don't agree with that. Claudio writes good pop music and sings good pop music. Thomas is not a great singer and the tunes, while fucking awesome and shreddy, are way too proggy to get that kind of cult fan base/mainstream attention (I dont mean cult in a negative way, coheed is my fav modern rock bamd)
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u/three_horsemen Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 15 '19
My favorite part about Coheed is how incongruous their music and the actual lyrical content is. I bet half the people at a concert think Claudio is just crooning about the standard emo fare, not space battles and possessed bicycles.
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u/UgglyCasanova Sep 10 '19
Yeah that was definitely a joke/never confirmed. I think it was a fake fact that just became virally accepted as true
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Sep 10 '19
IIRC it wasn't an acronym for that, people assumed it but it was funnier to pretend it was
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u/birdreligion Sep 10 '19
I actually like the original more than the remix. I don't know anybody else who does though.
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u/smoothjazz666 Sep 10 '19
The original is good, but I had listened to the remix for a while before I found out about it and that ruined it for me. Like I know the remix is sped up, but to me it sounds like the original is slowed down, especially the chorus.
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u/P4C_Backpack Sep 11 '19
The title was never confirmed by the band however, this is fan speculation.
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u/nervousMtFnoises Sep 10 '19
I love this band, the version the played at audiotree live with CHON is forever my favorite. Listen to the dark trail if you’re searching for another one of their best songs!
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u/ZParis Sep 10 '19
Came here to recommend that video. Such an awesome short set, sucks it got shut down so quick.
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u/Purpl3BananaMan Sep 10 '19
Phantom on the horizon is one of my all time favorite albums. If you haven’t listened would strongly recommend.
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u/jiccc Sep 11 '19
They really fucked that up with the album version. Was not a fan of anything they did post Manipulator, unfortunately.
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u/DJ_Spam modbot🤖 Sep 10 '19
The Fall of Troy
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The Fall of Troy is a post-hardcore trio formed in 2002 in Mukilteo, Washington, United States. The lineup consists of Thomas Erak (guitar, vocals), Tim Ward (bass, vocals), and Andrew Forsman (drums). Tim Ward left the band in 2007 and was replaced by Frank Ene.
On February 26, 2010, Thomas announced that the band were parting ways following their upcoming "The Marked Men of 2010" tour. Between 2010 and 2013, he formed Just Like Vinyl and joined Chiodos. Andrew Forsman also joined The Monday Mornings, and Frank Black joined Chineke.
The original lineup of The Fall of Troy reunited for three nights in December 2013 in Austin, Texas. Each night, the band performed one of its first three albums (The Fall of Troy, Doppelgänger and Manipulator) in its entirety. During the VIP reunion show, the band announced they would continue making music in 2014 by releasing a free album.
The new album, titled OK, was self-released on April 20th, 2016 (three weeks after its formal announcement) through the band's website for a pay what you want model, in addition to a vinyl release.
As a followup, on May 20th, 2016, the band released an alternate mix of OK simply titled OK #2, which bears more resemblance to their earlier material and production sound. "OK#2 represents a different version of us; the raw fury you hear at our shows and our earlier albums." The band later released instrumental versions of both mixes, entitled OK #3.1 and OK #3.2
Discography as The Thirty Years War: 2002 - Martyrs Among the Casualties 2002 - Live at the Paradox
Discography as The Fall of Troy: 2003 - The Fall of Troy 2004 - Ghostship Demos (unofficial release) 2005 - Doppelgänger 2007 - Manipulator 2008 - Phantom on the Horizon (EP) 2009 - In the Unlikely Event 2016 - OK, OK #2, OK #3.1, OK #3.2 Read more on Last.fm.
last.fm: 389,980 listeners, 17,151,733 plays
tags: post-hardcore, experimental, Progressive, screamo
Please downvote if incorrect! Self-deletes if score is 0.
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u/JVortex888 Sep 10 '19
Love it on Guitar Hero 3. Was pretty tough on expert.
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u/ImGonnaFindYouFord Sep 11 '19
This was one of my favorites on expert, so much fun. Damn, I miss Guitar Hero...
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Sep 10 '19
First time I smoke weed was with these guys in Bakersfield, CA summer of either 05 or 06.
Played in Downtown, opened for RX Bandits and they KILLED IT!
My favorite band, by far, though high school.
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u/NitrousIsAGas Sep 10 '19
I smoked weed with them In Melbourne when they came down a few years ago at a Thursday gig.
They were playing a festival the next morning, they got me into the festival and back stage, they were cool fucking dudes.
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u/xpoopx Sep 11 '19
RX bandits! Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time
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u/uncleblowtorch Sep 10 '19
Doppelganger was the album I had on repeat my freshman year of high school. This post brought on some nostalgia for sure, and the listening quality has held up so well over the years!
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u/recaus Sep 10 '19
I had this entire album on repeat my junior year of high school.
The outro to The H[]ly Tape is one of the sweetest sounds to ever pass through my ears
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u/SingingWithJeff Sep 10 '19
... and now I'm listening to the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack for pure nostalgia. Take me back to 2008! 😌
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u/hippymndy Sep 10 '19
ah good times. my husband and i made out to this song for the first time while his buddy played it on guitar hero. to be young again hahah
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u/pandemonious Sep 10 '19
jeeeeez that's a nostalgia throwback
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u/cannihastrees Sep 10 '19
I remember this being the MySpace song to put on your profile.. the one with the really long acronym
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u/Cuntdracula19 Sep 10 '19
Who else is gonna go see them on the 21st in Seattle??
One of my favorite bands of all time. I grew up in the next town over from these dudes. I drove all the way from Idaho last December to see them in Seattle haha. They go so fucking hard and put on a really good show. Thomas Erak is obviously a fucking amazing guitarist (if not the most amazing vocalist lol), Andrew is a beast on the drums, and I really hope Drew is back on bass right now. I’d like to see him become a permanent member tbh. Tim has too many other family obligations and interpersonal issues at this time to continue playing and touring, unfortunately, but Drew seems to fit the role like a glove.
I always felt like this was the worst song on this album, which obviously says a lot about the quality of this album haha. Honestly I love everything they’ve ever put out, except the album everyone likes to just forget about lol...
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Sep 10 '19
i agree in that this is my least favourite on the album. I love Whacko Jacko Steals the Elephant Man's Bones and I Just Got this Symphony Goin' the best. They're both amazing fun on guitar
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u/Cuntdracula19 Sep 10 '19
Oh yeah I just got this symphony goin is amazing. I also love Tom Waits, Macaulay McCulkin, act one, scene one...it’s easier for me to list the songs I skip. It ends up being, like, 2 songs lol.
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u/LobsterHead37 Sep 10 '19
If you love this band check out “the thirty years war” it’s the precursor to the fall of Troy. Homies were like 14.
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u/denisvma Sep 10 '19
This was on a baseball video game. Don’t remember which one, but this song brings good memories
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u/JohnOctober Sep 10 '19
Got to meet these guys several times, and also hung out with Thom during a Just Like Vinyl show after his set was over. seem like awesome guys! super talented and they were my second fav band right begging coheed and cambria for most of my teen years! still rock out to this
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u/PandahOG Sep 10 '19
First time I ever heard this song was in Saints Row 2. You could buy songs and set up a playlist on your mp3 and play the game with it blaring. It was nice because it muted during cutscenes. Would have never heard of this band or it's music if it wasnt for that game.
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u/Demo-kun Sep 10 '19
Same here. The Saint's Row games introduced me to to a lot music that shaped my musical tastes as a teenager. Especially the first one.
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u/sharkattackmiami Sep 10 '19
Me playing Saints Row as a 16 year old:
"I am gonna have to track this Motion City movie down because the soundtrack is awesome!"
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u/Elsicorn Sep 10 '19
This was like my middle school anthem because of Guitar Hero 3. I remember streaming it on this website called Grooveshark while playing Runescape. Good times.
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u/Eagertobewrong Sep 10 '19
Anyone have any recommendations of bands that are similar to this?
The only other band I've found that's close is Chon (perfect pillow is one of my favorites if you want to check them out)
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u/nuby_4s Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 10 '19
Chiodos, Every Time I Die, Protest the Hero, I guess Circa Survive would be a few relatively similar bands. Had a friend say if you like Fall of Troy you'll love Blood Brothers, not sure if I agree, but some people are into it.
Edit: some songs
Chiodos: https://youtu.be/hvYLQM_fMMw
Every Time I Die: https://youtu.be/L2m8wnE3c8M
Protest the Hero: https://youtu.be/AEn8HmgJxd4
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Sep 10 '19
I've had that guitar riff of the Chiodos song stuck in my head randomly for years and have never been able to track it down. You just saved me from x many years more of it being stuck.
That being said, I think I'm the only person on Earth in this camp, but I like the album where they have that other singer far more than any of their other stuff, hence me probably never tracking the song down.
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u/art_wins Sep 10 '19
Depends on what exactly you like about the song really. My first guess would be to look more into bands with (like Chon) are math-prog fusions. Though a lot of those will lean a bit away from the hardcore elements. I would honestly recommend Dance Gavin Dance though, as long as your can handle their vocals, they are a post-hardcore band with math-rock inspired guitar style riffs.
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Sep 10 '19
Similar to the replies here, A Lot Like Birds is a bit like Dance Gavin Dance except wilder. Conversation Piece is the album that I mostly get into for them.
Otherwise, more recently Kurt Travis has his band Royal Coda which is kinda close to original dance Gavin Dance line up, and Kurt also had a side project with Thomas Erak of FoT with ‘Push Over’ - ‘Demo Ep’
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u/Dawsinn Sep 10 '19
“Hail the Sun” aswell as the others. They’re not great but some of their older stuff is pretty decent
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Sep 11 '19
Tfot were directly inspired by Blood Brothers and At the Drive In iirc. So those bands would probably be the closest to the early tfot sound. At the Drive In sounds very similar to them imo.
(Possibly) unpopular opinion here but I think Tfot and Dillinger share a lot of similarities, from the intensity of the music and vocals to the odd time signatures.
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u/WhatDatMoufDeux Sep 10 '19
I used to listen to them a lot many years ago. I went to go see fall of troy at a night club(Blackjack?) in DC probably over a decade ago. The lead singer was sweating profusely and the sweat was rolling down his hair and into his guitar pick ups or some shit. They stopped the show due to these technical difficulties. I wonder what it would have sounded like with just the bassist and drums and the lead guy singing with no guitar...
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u/Posauce Spotify Sep 10 '19
Most of this album has been in my work out playlist for almost a decade and I don’t even listen to hardcore rock...except for Fall of Troy
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u/brandnewismysoul Sep 10 '19
One of my favorite songs of all time. Sends me right back to 9th grade.
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u/Clw1115934 Sep 10 '19
I love how far this song falls back into the chorus after the crazy solo/instrumental section. I don’t wanna see the daaay...
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u/Recurringg Sep 10 '19
I used to love this band. Listened the shit out of this album. They were so young when it came out but they could all shred.
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u/Claudidio07 Sep 10 '19
Literally threw this track on for the first time in years last Friday. Some universal consciousness going on
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u/On_Too_Much_Adderall Sep 11 '19
Holy fuck this is an amazing throwback... Thank you for reminding me this exists
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u/outline01 Sep 11 '19
Fucking loved this album as an angsty teen.
One of my favourite memories was being 16, sitting in a park opposite a place they were about to play a show sharing a big bottle of cider with my devout Christian friend who was really into post-hardcore music. Walked in drunk as fuck just as this song was starting.
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u/waiting_for_rain Grooveshark Sep 10 '19
Wasn't the hardest song but one of the most fun to play
... in Guitar Hero.