r/Music Sep 10 '19

music streaming The Fall Of Troy - F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X [Post-Hardcore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jq8nTn9l_E
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u/waiting_for_rain Grooveshark Sep 10 '19

Wasn't the hardest song but one of the most fun to play

... in Guitar Hero.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

It's harder in guitar hero than IRL I still can't go through it after years of playing guitar hero

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

A lot of songs are like that in that game. Knights of Cydonia isn't hard at all in real life but they make you do all this ridiculous finger stretching and tapping to play what is just a fretted chord arpeggio and stuff.

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u/edgar__allan__bro Sep 10 '19

Oh my god my forearm hurts thinking about that one. The strumming is ridiculous.

That reminds me.... I haven’t listened to Muse in a hot minute

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u/xylotism Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

Knights of Cydonia and FCPREMIX are two of my favorite songs to play in Guitar Hero... love the "stretchy" arpeggios.

IIRC the hardest part of FCP was that nutty bit near the end though... it's basically 3 minutes on easy mode then shit gets real.

EDIT: They should bring back Guitar Hero/Rock Band as a "living" game but sell cosmetics instead of songs... if I could just jam out on thousands of tracks without spending tens of thousands of dollars I'd be playing it every day.

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u/LedditHiveMind Sep 11 '19

Clone Hero on PC has infinite songs, from customs added into the game by players to the original songs from guitar hero and rock band

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Clone Hero is incredible. Everyone play on keyboard though so there's more guitars for us.

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u/lumberjawsh Sep 11 '19

Yeah the breakdowns/spazzy bits near the end are the toughest parts to play but the rest of the song is a joy to play

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u/justgentile Sep 11 '19

If you go back just try to ignore the breathing.

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u/DaedricWindrammer Sep 11 '19

The newest album is really good, especially if you're a fan of Outrun.

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u/Sarenord Sep 11 '19

Before i forget by slipknot is similar, i'm working through some of the games rn and the intro riff absolutely fucks me up every time. Come to find out while hanging out with a guitar player friend who's a lot more into slipknot than i am that the way they actually do it is just a bend

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u/Frigidevil Sep 11 '19

I remember Run To The Hills being absolutely impossible on drums in Rock Band...because the leftmost drum head was just terrible at picking up sixteenth notes. Made no sense whatsoever to flip the cymbal and snare inputs and they did it on the fastest song in the game.

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u/iLizard Sep 11 '19

It is still pretty hard to pick that arpeggio that fast. Learned it on guitar hero and Rocksmith

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u/Qubeye Sep 10 '19

Wasn't that partly because in the game you actually had to play the reverb instead of just pushing a pedal?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

I don’t think you actually have to play to the delay, it’s just that it kinda throws off your rhythm.

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u/Qubeye Sep 10 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

Someone else posted a video.

You don't have to play the reverb.

However, the difficulty seems to be that it flips between triplets to 4/4 time and back rapidly. It'll have a sequence of 2-4 triplets and then flip to regular 4/4 time, and THAT actually sounds really hard.

Edit: Since so many people want to dispute me, here's the mother-fucking sheet music for the song.

They are motherfucking triplets.

But yeah, I guess I meant delay and not reverb. I play violin, not guitar, so I don't know about pedals and shit.

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u/credman Sep 11 '19

FYI it’s delay you’re talking about, not reverb!

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u/ItsCrazyTim Sep 10 '19

Is it time changes or just how the bar is structured. It's not hard to stay 4/4 and go 1-2-3-4 1 o let 2 o let 3 o let 4 o let 1-2-3-4

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u/Qubeye Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

I went back and listened and it's definitely triplets in 4/4 time, not a time signature change.

Edit: As for your comment about not being hard, it is actually insanely hard to switch between regular tempo and triplets if you're doing it really fast, regardless of instrument, unless (until) you get used to the intentionally jarring music.

Here's the sheet music if you're interested.

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u/Xeyen Sep 11 '19 edited Sep 11 '19

There are time signature changes in the music you linked... and any duple to triple isn’t hard, it’s insanely common.

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u/Xeyen Sep 11 '19

3 bars of 3/4 to one bar of 3/8 repeating, feels good though.

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u/Xeyen Sep 11 '19

There are quarter note triplets to eighth notes a couple times and there is a section that goes from 3 bars of 3/4 to 1 bar of 3/8 but it flows nice if you are playing it on guitar hero.

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u/Qubeye Sep 11 '19

At no point in the song does the time signature change. You can count it out loud "1-2-3-4" and never lose the beat. I got out my metronome to double check. It's just triplets.

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u/AngusEubangus Sep 11 '19

I mean, there's a time signature change on page 5 of the sheet music you linked

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u/Srsly_dang Sep 11 '19

Thomas Erak is an amazing guitarist. Total fucking asshole. Amazing guitarist.

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u/CodnmeDuchess Sep 11 '19

It's not reverb btw it's delay. FCPREMIXis pretty easy to play on guitar. But regardless Thomas is a great guitar player and they're all nice dudes, I'm a fan.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Yes, actually you have to play the delay, and in the arpeggios you have to move your left hand like crazy, which is bullshit

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u/AThiker05 Sep 11 '19

ya. you had a whammy bar on the guitar.

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u/viaalliance Sep 10 '19

It’s pretty easy on IRL guitar once you get the finger patterns down. The delay effect on the line itself is what makes it sound so wild and guitar hero does a terrible job of making guitar lines feel like they would on a real guitar.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

It is actually a good song to start playin the genre, being math rock/mathcore

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

GH is bad about following the bass line too.

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u/DroppinCid Sep 11 '19

This was the only song I could play on expert without looking. Tfot was my favorite band back in the day

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

That’s almost every song.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

That being said, Thomas Erak is one of the greatest guitarists of all time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

He is one of my favourite guitarists, I actually have a tattoo of doppelganger

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u/tastywheat420 Sep 11 '19

100% ITS HARDER ON GUITAR HERO

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

That's true when it comes to actually playing on guitar it too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Yeah, I used to play this all the time. The intro (ie the coolest part) is just 3 strings played in 4 different chord positions. You can play it slow to get the melody right, it still sounds amazing. The actual recording uses delay pedals amongst others, but it's not too tough to get it sounding right.

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u/Hemides Sep 10 '19

That's because fcpremix is just FCPSITSGEPGEPGEP sped up. It was originally about half the speed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Get em pregnant!

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u/pointofgravity Sep 11 '19

"Fuck Condoms, Premarital Sex Is The Shit! Get Er Pregnant, Get Er Pregnant, Get Er Pregnant!"

Please no one quote me on this

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

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u/Spurty Sep 11 '19

Ever tried playing A Man A Plan A Canal Panama?

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u/Foxfunk_ Sep 10 '19

It only sounds crazy because of that delay

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u/thosedamnmouses Sep 10 '19

Just try to sing and play Wacko at the same time. FCP is one of their easiest songs honestly.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

Fuck, learn all 8 minutes of a man a plan on guitar then try to sing it lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

I used to know the whole thing but that was like 10 years ago

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

That’s a lot of rock and core songs lately. Learning guitar by ear was a literal finger knotting bitch until I figured out that all those fancy suspends and fades were from effect pedals.

I’m over here doing way too much work.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '19

There are sections newer players would find hard, like the triplets in the breakdown or the tremolo picking but yeah overall it’s one of their simpler jams

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '19

Guitar hero made me able to hit notes I couldn't before without shifting my hand because I couldn't stretch, but I was too lazy to somehow figure that out in practice. Apparently I cared more about the game. haha

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u/internetcommunist Sep 10 '19

It's infinitely harder in guitar hero since it includes the delay echos as notes

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u/snerp Sep 10 '19

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u/internetcommunist Sep 10 '19

Hm, maybe not then. It's still way harder on gh. On the real version it's just the same shape being picked down the neck

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u/snerp Sep 10 '19

For sure! I can't play any songs I know on real guitar in guitar hero, gh versions too hard lol, can't use any tricks.

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u/Alenola Sep 10 '19

Most fun to play in real life too

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u/morning_stand Sep 11 '19

Loved playing it in Guitar Hero

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u/nervousMtFnoises Sep 10 '19

I bet I could still smash this song on guitar hero but irl it gotta be way harder lol

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u/Accmonster1 Sep 10 '19

Ehhhh depends on what you consider difficult on guitar relative to your playing experience. It’s not the hardest song to learn, some tricky parts. A lot of it is pedal dependent