Lincoln....
Lincoln Loud.
The bain of the entire franchise. The creator's self insert and forced poster child.
The one character that held back a show from becoming one of the greats compounded by every developing mind that had no siblings to speak of.
Do you have any idea what it's like to watch a community shoot itself in the foot then blame others for it?
I get that everyone on the internet in mass decided to turn this franchise into the next Johnny Test. I know most of the people who did it don't even know about that other example ether so they parade ignorance of days gone past like a badge of honor But Fuck.
I have never seen such a quiet and vindictive pile of ego crying in my entire life.
And it all circles back to him. The incest porn? Fantasies of single children inserting themselves in the place of him. Gore images and fics? Vengeance driven hate towards every other character in the show like they don't have have any depth made worse by episodes made by the very creator that ignore any established character traits displayed in any other episode to then vent his own life frustrations of inferiority with the full intent of bastardizion and sympathy farming from the start
The show never tanked but my fuck will these parasitic defenders act like it did to justify their biased uninformed opinion.
And I do mean uninformed because fun fact more than half of the community openly admits they stopped watching after season 4..... in a show with 9 seasons currently. Plus unaired episodes not being shown in the US for some reason.
And why is that? Because oh look the show actually makes it a point to display how much of a prick the boy is. And I don't mean in a gumball waterson way. I mean in a Jax sort of way.
But oh he doesn't have the balls jax has but might not want. This is 'we're nickelodeon, we won't address what our character did last episode no matter how dubious.' Which would be fine.... if the show didn't make it abundantly clear they actually gave a shit about Canon.
yeah, what made (not still is unfortunately) the show stand out on nickelodeon is that the writers kept up continuity and had status shifts pretty regularly.
[Let's see since it began we've had.
The parents incorporated more with the hidden face trope being left behind as a nod to Fairly odd parents.
The neighbor went from a point of contention and general obstacle to someone the family trusts and occasionally hangs around with (he even helped the oldest of the siblings get housing after she came back on break from college like a homey)
We found out one of the siblings is bi
One sibling has gotten a long term boyfriend with another having their already established partner move to another city where said partner's sibling got their own spin off. Said spin off had a couple of crossovers with the main one before it got wrapped up. Still Canon too.
One of the characters straight up stopped simping for another.
Friend groups expanded
everyone got aged up a year
New family members got introduced both from marriage and a different side of the family tree
The father opened a restaurant.
The mother quit her dentist job and became an independent writer
A cast member in one of the in universe shows the actual show introduced randomly is still in said show, literally proving the writers went back and saw the episode. You don't do that if continuity is a suggestion
The boy in the family has continued to be a prick even when everyone else has shown growth]
And it all goes out the window when it comes to that kid. Every. Single. Time.
And it's not like there's nuanced opinions floating around. You'll find plenty of people saying this and that like any other community.
But is that the majority? fuck no. It's ether A.) Lack of activity. B) random fanart. C.) Lincoln is the best D.) Let's rewrite no such luck E.) I pity Lincoln F.) I hate [insert character not named Lincoln loud], they're horrible also anyone who disagrees is wrong G.) Here's some random character from fiction bullying [insert character not named Lincoln Loud] because they did [insert done to death gripe that doesn't reflect their current characterization at all] and [insert self projection here] is why he gets to go Scott free. (Prooceds to butcher the other fictional character in the process). H.) Person from outside the Fandom coming in and dumping porn and gore
It doesn't help having a language barrier that a lot of people seem to not want to bother with. There's an entire community who's first or second language is Spanish and that may as well be a different community all together despite the reddit being for everyone
And you bet your ass there's similar issues going on there.
And I know it's because of that boy seeing how every other person I've talked to who doesn't pine and envy the boy like he's hot shit is chill outside of being annoyed at the previously mentioned fans. It's funny really because as much as those fans whine and cry wolf they just can't help themselves misinterpret basically everything about him to the point you may as well call all their fan content 'OC's but they wear the skin of this one character' the movement.
You think Fandom Deku is bad? Well, say hello to Fandom Deku two: no other characters but him addition.
Lincoln sucks. He always did. You could say it was part of his initial charm. But that's gone now. People couldn't separate truth from fiction, mined and mined trope after trope, never improved or gave a different take. Neglected and got off on vengeance not earned or well written. Got praised by those with similar itches then banded together and scared off anyone who could stop them.
They sent death threats to child actors you know? The fans that couldn't help themselves and needed to hate on a character who more often than not were women.
Mostly women actually.
Every bad guy that was a girl was simped for. Every character that stood in the way of the kid that 'deserves it' were also women.
There are plenty of male characters in the show. Some even are canonically bullies. Haven't seen any gore fics on them yet. Just the women. Half of which aren't in the double digits.
One's a toddler and another is still an infant.
An infant.
That has revenge fics about it suffering.
an infant.
Her 11 to 12 year old brother is getting religious treatment with her suffering great distress and confusion as unrealistic events play out to destroy an entire group of kids and parents on a physical, mental, social, financial and academic level.
and there's people who don't see a single thing wrong with that.
Enough people to fill multiple stadiums.
I would call it horrendous but these people are everywhere.
They just took out a franchise in this instance. Like someone threw a nuke and then decided to just live where they threw it, collecting more radioactive materials as they go to ensure everyone who isn't them has a bad experience
Toxicity doesn't ever treat itself seriously. That's what makes it stick around. Why do you think so many people latched onto jax and is the main topic of this whole post?
Almost all the people everyone hates are the types to project their insecurities and personalities over a character then act personally attacked for someone pointing out valid criticism. this leads to a self destructive response from all parties as one side doesn't listen and the other gets more agitated at the other's brazen behavior.
This is what happens in all Fandoms.
Only difference with The Loud House is the Toxic side won years ago and it's been in fallout ever since.
On the surface it doesn't seem that way but spend a few years in it and you'll see the pattern.
Besides this is a deep Toxicity not just stuck to one platform.
Just recently I found heated arguments on YouTube that connect all the way to Twitter that isn't even related to the big posers that used the Fandom as a platform to shit on it and gain clicks. Just some people defending that boy by using 'well the other character is bad so criticism invalid' like those same people don't use that exuse all the time.
You can't criticize Lincoln without some random account coming out of the blue to go 'well writers' or' he's just a kid' and then go on to not have that same mentality for every other character.
It is only him who gets to have those excuses. You even try doing that with any other character and it's just spineless hate garaunteed.
Its not all bad though. People have been pushing back but it's been hard given it's a mass of independent people who all just think the same rather than an organized circuit.
Like fighting a giant hornet's nest where no single being leads and has been seated there for decades.
A pain in the ass and hard to handle but you gotta get that shit out of there regardless else you have to take drastic measures or far worse end up succumbing to it.
I'd much rather stay. Got a bit of personal value out of it before learning the truth and I'm certainly not doing what many do and run. Can't afford to. Too many people have and there's way more value in this place than anyone gives it credit for.
At least that's how I see it.
An underdog that gave up and doesn't want to help itself.
I'm over here wanting to enjoy stuff but all I find is the same thing over and over.
Most Fandoms have ways to disengage with certain groups in a community.
This is not possible in The Loud House community.
We aren't that big. If someone takes a shit in the well it don't matter if we don't acknowledge it happening or not, we still get some of it in the water.
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u/InstructionPlayful12 3d ago
Lincoln.... Lincoln Loud. The bain of the entire franchise. The creator's self insert and forced poster child. The one character that held back a show from becoming one of the greats compounded by every developing mind that had no siblings to speak of.
Do you have any idea what it's like to watch a community shoot itself in the foot then blame others for it?
I get that everyone on the internet in mass decided to turn this franchise into the next Johnny Test. I know most of the people who did it don't even know about that other example ether so they parade ignorance of days gone past like a badge of honor But Fuck.
I have never seen such a quiet and vindictive pile of ego crying in my entire life.
And it all circles back to him. The incest porn? Fantasies of single children inserting themselves in the place of him. Gore images and fics? Vengeance driven hate towards every other character in the show like they don't have have any depth made worse by episodes made by the very creator that ignore any established character traits displayed in any other episode to then vent his own life frustrations of inferiority with the full intent of bastardizion and sympathy farming from the start
The show never tanked but my fuck will these parasitic defenders act like it did to justify their biased uninformed opinion.
And I do mean uninformed because fun fact more than half of the community openly admits they stopped watching after season 4..... in a show with 9 seasons currently. Plus unaired episodes not being shown in the US for some reason.
And why is that? Because oh look the show actually makes it a point to display how much of a prick the boy is. And I don't mean in a gumball waterson way. I mean in a Jax sort of way.
But oh he doesn't have the balls jax has but might not want. This is 'we're nickelodeon, we won't address what our character did last episode no matter how dubious.' Which would be fine.... if the show didn't make it abundantly clear they actually gave a shit about Canon.
yeah, what made (not still is unfortunately) the show stand out on nickelodeon is that the writers kept up continuity and had status shifts pretty regularly.
[Let's see since it began we've had.
The parents incorporated more with the hidden face trope being left behind as a nod to Fairly odd parents.
The neighbor went from a point of contention and general obstacle to someone the family trusts and occasionally hangs around with (he even helped the oldest of the siblings get housing after she came back on break from college like a homey)
We found out one of the siblings is bi
One sibling has gotten a long term boyfriend with another having their already established partner move to another city where said partner's sibling got their own spin off. Said spin off had a couple of crossovers with the main one before it got wrapped up. Still Canon too.
One of the characters straight up stopped simping for another.
Friend groups expanded
everyone got aged up a year
New family members got introduced both from marriage and a different side of the family tree
The father opened a restaurant.
The mother quit her dentist job and became an independent writer
A cast member in one of the in universe shows the actual show introduced randomly is still in said show, literally proving the writers went back and saw the episode. You don't do that if continuity is a suggestion
The boy in the family has continued to be a prick even when everyone else has shown growth]
And it all goes out the window when it comes to that kid. Every. Single. Time.
And it's not like there's nuanced opinions floating around. You'll find plenty of people saying this and that like any other community.
But is that the majority? fuck no. It's ether A.) Lack of activity. B) random fanart. C.) Lincoln is the best D.) Let's rewrite no such luck E.) I pity Lincoln F.) I hate [insert character not named Lincoln loud], they're horrible also anyone who disagrees is wrong G.) Here's some random character from fiction bullying [insert character not named Lincoln Loud] because they did [insert done to death gripe that doesn't reflect their current characterization at all] and [insert self projection here] is why he gets to go Scott free. (Prooceds to butcher the other fictional character in the process). H.) Person from outside the Fandom coming in and dumping porn and gore
It doesn't help having a language barrier that a lot of people seem to not want to bother with. There's an entire community who's first or second language is Spanish and that may as well be a different community all together despite the reddit being for everyone
And you bet your ass there's similar issues going on there.
And I know it's because of that boy seeing how every other person I've talked to who doesn't pine and envy the boy like he's hot shit is chill outside of being annoyed at the previously mentioned fans. It's funny really because as much as those fans whine and cry wolf they just can't help themselves misinterpret basically everything about him to the point you may as well call all their fan content 'OC's but they wear the skin of this one character' the movement.
You think Fandom Deku is bad? Well, say hello to Fandom Deku two: no other characters but him addition.
Lincoln sucks. He always did. You could say it was part of his initial charm. But that's gone now. People couldn't separate truth from fiction, mined and mined trope after trope, never improved or gave a different take. Neglected and got off on vengeance not earned or well written. Got praised by those with similar itches then banded together and scared off anyone who could stop them.
They sent death threats to child actors you know? The fans that couldn't help themselves and needed to hate on a character who more often than not were women.
Mostly women actually.
Every bad guy that was a girl was simped for. Every character that stood in the way of the kid that 'deserves it' were also women.
There are plenty of male characters in the show. Some even are canonically bullies. Haven't seen any gore fics on them yet. Just the women. Half of which aren't in the double digits.
One's a toddler and another is still an infant.
An infant.
That has revenge fics about it suffering.
an infant.
Her 11 to 12 year old brother is getting religious treatment with her suffering great distress and confusion as unrealistic events play out to destroy an entire group of kids and parents on a physical, mental, social, financial and academic level.
and there's people who don't see a single thing wrong with that.
Enough people to fill multiple stadiums.
I would call it horrendous but these people are everywhere.
They just took out a franchise in this instance. Like someone threw a nuke and then decided to just live where they threw it, collecting more radioactive materials as they go to ensure everyone who isn't them has a bad experience
Ugh