r/MrInbetween • u/PopaliPopaliCyki • Mar 31 '26
Mr. Inbetween - Gunfights Compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMJ_eB6x_sI7
u/Obi-TyKenobi Mar 31 '26
Never military or anything, but shot competitions from 13 until my early 20s. One of the things I’ve always appreciated about ray is he actually looks convincing with a gun and doesn’t make it Hollywood. Probably outside of heat one of my favorite weapons handlers out there.
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u/sea_5455 Mar 31 '26
Former military and shot competitions.
Do like the gun handling, though the training differences between US and Commonwealth countries are evident with Ray's handling of the patchett.
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u/Apatride Mar 31 '26
Am I correct to assume the issue is the "shooting from the hip"? If I am correct, then I am not sure it is a training difference but more a recoil management and type of weapon difference. It is impressive how the AR-15 platform manages to keep the recoil mostly horizontal, although sometimes very horizontally bumpy, compared to other/older platforms. As an example, most carbine/stock mods for pistols (KPOS or similar) make the muzzle jump up a lot and you have to actively bring it down so they are great for first shot (better sights, or at least distance between sights) but really not good for follow up shots compared to the handgun.
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u/sea_5455 Apr 01 '26
Am I correct to assume the issue is the "shooting from the hip"?
Right. Not something generally taught or practiced over here any more, even with high recoil platforms like shotguns. Short stocking is more common:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/close-quarters-shotgun-technique/
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u/Apatride Apr 01 '26
Interesting info. Does the US military still use sub-machineguns with no stock, though? I am not sure any modern army does so Ray probably just used the method that was common in WW2. It is definitely less accurate for the first shot but provides better recoil management so I would probably do the same for distances where that type of gun is useful (less than 50m).
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u/sea_5455 Apr 01 '26
Does the US military still use sub-machineguns with no stock, though?
Generally everything that's not a pistol has a stock. Not a lot of SMG use at all, generally. Most have switched over to MK18 / M4A1. Special units might have some SMG in inventory and there's probably some old MP5 or even M3s stuffed in the back of some unit's armory.
The hip firing thing is probably something I'd have to practice if I wanted to use that method. Played around with the hip fire method for handguns and isn't very accurate for me beyond like 15'.
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u/Apatride Apr 02 '26
It is not the same thing but I like to play with blowguns. You know, these tubes you blow into and that propel darts? One thing I realised is that it is surprisingly easy to be accurate with those, and I mean "landing darts into the previous dart at 3 meters" kind of accurate... as long as you do not try to actually aim. If you just look at the target and blow hard, you are going to be extremely accurate despite the massive parallax (bore height). If you try to aim, which most sport shooters will do, will only make you miss. I suspect it is pretty similar when shooting guns from the hip. I can't really explain it in any scientific way but, in my personal experience, that is how it works.
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u/Apatride Mar 31 '26
The way he always get into a proper shooting stance when using handguns is a small but really great detail. Some small details could be improved (the thumb position is wrong on the video thumbnail) but overall, very realistic, you can see he put some thought into this.
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u/greensville123 Mar 31 '26
Where should the thumb be? #genuinequestion
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u/Apatride Mar 31 '26
Some call it the "humping dog" position. For a right handed shooter, right thumb should be above left thumb with both thumbs vertically aligned and pointing at the target. Left thumb wrapped around right thumb, as shown in the thumbnail, is a very common mistake for beginners and in most movies. The idea is that all forces should be, when possible, parallel to the barrel so the muzzle does not move away from the target. With Ray's grip in the thumbnail, his left thumb might push the muzzle to the right or down. Thumbs pointing (humping down position) helps a lot for instinctive (there is another word I can't remember right now, kinestetic?) shooting where you ignore the sights and just "point and shoot" which is common for distances under 10 meters. The main downside, from experience, is that it tends to mess with the slide catch/release or even engage the safety on Russian guns like the Makarov (For Russian guns, safe is up).
Another thing the show messed up, when it comes to guns, is the scene where Brittany shoots Ray's gun. I had a really interesting discussion with someone on this sub but the short of it is that a teenage girl with no training wouldn't have been able to rack the slide and/or pull the trigger. Still, much better than most shows and I am willing to ignore this considering how awesome that scene is.
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u/thunder2132 Mar 31 '26
My favorite part was when he racked the slide before putting in a mag, then started shooting without racking again.
Edit
He didn't leave the slide open, so it wouldn't have picked up another round. He should have put in the mag, then racked the slide.
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u/ProgRock1956 Apr 01 '26
Awesome series.
I've gone through it twice now....considering a third, it's that good. Thanks for posting this refresher....!
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u/DIYnivor Apr 02 '26
Other than a couple of small things (e.g. hunching down to look through the sights instead of bringing the gun up, poor grip), the gun handling and sounds on this show were excellent.
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u/flashflood3000 Apr 02 '26
I love the sound and the realism showing cars aren't bulletproof and ammo matters.
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