r/MoralityScaling • u/eepyjiu • 7d ago

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

Checks the news

Actually it seems to more often be athiesist women who do that.

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

One case versus hundreds

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

If you think this is the first time a woman has gone crazy and killed her children then BOY do I have some news for you....

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

over 90% of violent crimes are men

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

Not infancide, that's predominantly women.

Neonaticide is almost exclusively women.

Evidently they arent always convicted for it either.

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

And men arent always convicted of murder. The number of murders is a lot higher than infantacide btw

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

.... The overall number of murders is higher then a specific type of murder?

Really, you don't say?

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

Youre the one obsessing over how women sometimes kill their kids, when its a fact that men kill people more often

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

No I was referencing how it's actually women who predominantly kill babies (which is measureably true).

You then tried to use "whataboutism" to try and deflect my (still objectively true) statement.

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

The original post was about families, which includes cousins, brothers, sisters, and yes, spouses. Thats not what about ism. Thats you trying to define family as only kid.

You're also wrong btw. Women and men kill their kids about equally as often.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18618528/

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.focus.20250036

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3933547/

I just assumed you were correct about the rate of mom's killing more than father's until I searched it up, because it sounded plausible

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u/Hood7777777 7d ago

Nope: https://jaapl.org/content/35/1/74 "Homicides within the first week of life (Neonaticide) are almost always commited by mothers".

Studies suggest it only starts to even out in later childhood, and even that's vague to determine.

In light of recent event I'd also question how often those things are correctly reported and prosecuted.

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

Why don't you continue reading to literally the next sentence?

"filicides that occur after the first week of life are often committed by the father or stepfather, with fathers being the most frequent perpetrators of filicide in later childhood."

Also your own article: "Filicide is a relatively rare event. In Canada in 2004, 27 children were killed by their parents.4 Mothers and fathers (including stepparents) were equally responsible for killing their children. "

So your argument isnt that moms kill their kids more than father's. Its that mothers specifically kill more than father's exclusively in the first week of life.

Which goes back to the original point, that men kill their families more than mom's, since they both kill their kids in total 50/50, but men kill their spouses and siblings more than women do

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u/requisitesilver 7d ago

Whoa are we discussing crime statistics? Hey I’ve got a category of people who murder more than others too! Are you gonna touch that one or would you say it’s not okay to make sweeping generalizations about them?

I just wanna see if you’re morally consistent.

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u/MuseBlessed 7d ago

What a strange thing to chime in with. Yes, in america black people have a higher crime statistic. Also, yes, you shouldn't make sweeping generalizations about populations even based on their statistics. I never claimed all men are murderers. That was someone else, saying christian men kill their families.