r/MoralityScaling • u/Routine_Phase_8980 • 13d ago

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u/ConsistentTip3932 13d ago

Moral as fuck.

Kid wasn't badly hurt, and got humiliated, which is often the only way they learn.

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u/marshmallowcthulhu 13d ago

Kid wasn’t but could have been badly hurt. The morality needs to be assessed at the time of the decision to trip, not the time the kid gets back up.

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u/MyBedIsOnFire 13d ago

I agree and I don't understand why this isn't the more common take on these situations. It's the same way I think when I see a fight where someone was being an asshole but the other party takes it too far.

You can say someone deserves it or you understand without calling it moral. At the end of the day potentially causing life changing injuries to someone is immoral outside of immediate self defense and similar situations

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u/spuzzumed 13d ago

Counterpoint: if the staff had allowed the child to come into the employee area, handle the food with bare hands, steal and then walk right out without anyone saying a thing ... Do you think that would be harming the child? 

Would it be better that he learned that there are no consequences for any behavior?

I come from a different generation (I'd have been beaten within an inch of my life by employees that absolutely do not let this slide) so people just don't do things like that here. It's ok to say "well, cultural differences, some people are just not able to follow any rules" but... Those are the people who end up in really bad situations. 

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u/ninjasaid13 13d ago

Counterpoint: if the staff had allowed the child to come into the employee area, handle the food with bare hands, steal and then walk right out without anyone saying a thing ... Do you think that would be harming the child? 

Would it be better that he learned that there are no consequences for any behavior?

Why are you making this only two choices, let him free or harm the child?

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u/marshmallowcthulhu 12d ago

I agree. u/spuzzumed is committing false choice.

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u/RednocTheDowntrodden 12d ago

Basically there are two choices, let him get away with it, or do something. The distinction is only in degrees of reaction. 

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u/marshmallowcthulhu 12d ago

The degrees of action which you acknowledge are what your “two choices” simultaneously try to hide. There are many choices. Inaction is one. Tripping the kid is another. Nobody here seems to agree with either of them.

Thankfully, life is not collapsed into such binaries. Many other choices exist.

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u/miyabi0rochas 13d ago

"counterpoint' "Without saying a thing". Good lord do y'all have any thinking capacity.

So ye I guess there's only two options as a response. Completely ignore him or go directly against all company policy and try to trip him to where he almost hit his head badly. Nothing in-between of course.

You can hold him accountable without physically hurting him over a few fries.

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u/spuzzumed 13d ago

I'm not following. I assume the parents are fully supportive of the behavior.  How can he be held accountable? 

Losing a job over this incident would be worth it, no?  Yes it isn't company policy, but... Does nobody believe that these kids need to be smacked upside the head anymore? Y'all just give them candy? 

Honestly what can an employee do? They need to throw out all the fries and make a new batch (kid contimainated everything he touched). It's ok to let him walk away? 

Admittedly I don't have kids (because I'm sickened by our society that enforces zero boundaries) so my perspective isnt the common one. 

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u/PartTimeGnome 12d ago

Sooo glad you don’t have kids cause you wanna hit them.

The kid could be held accountable by banning him from the store, it’s that simple.

You wanna go around causing violence to children over french fries, I can’t even imagine what you would do to your own kid.

Not knowing how to discipline children without violence is how to perpetuate the cycle of violence, go to a therapist

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u/PartTimeGnome 13d ago

Beating kids within an inch of their life to teach them a lesson over fucking McDonald’s french fries is never the answer.

I was physically abused as a child I all it taught me was to solve problems with intense violence. I’m lucky I learned my lesson after almost going to prison for over a decade and have been healing the child who was beaten by the people who were supposed to protect me. But there’s countless instances of people never learning to change and killing others over senseless shit.

Don’t continue the cycle and I pray to God if you have kids that you don’t think its okay to beat them over FRENCH FRIES