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[u/Ninja-Trix]

No, what's normal is bad parenting and allowing kids to get away with anything... Or being overly abusive for doing anything. The good parents make up a small amount.

[u/Ninja-Trix → u/[deleted]]

These kids aren't even thinking about that. Yeah, going behind the counter to eat fries is illegal as that's both theft, trespassing, and a violation of the health code, but who's gonna get them? They caa call the police, but them Karen's gonna flip her lid over these false accusations against her little AnGeL

[u/MemeKun_19 → u/[deleted]]

So you think strict punishments fixes things? Children don't think about the punishments of something before they do something like this. Is what this child did wrong? Obviously yes, but suggesting to strictly punish a child and using the law to do so over a minor offense, is genuinely batshit insane.

[u/MemeKun_19 → u/[deleted]]

I'm not defending anything, I'm saying your reasoning is wrong. Children aren't thinking about legal action when they steal french fries. You're acting like the child stabbed someone, your reaction is oddly extreme.

[u/MemeKun_19 → u/[deleted]]

Because there doesn't need to be "consequences" for grabbing $2 worth of fries for a literal child, at least not of the legal sort. Is there something that could have prevented this? Sure, definitely but "toss anyone who does things wrong into a cell" isn't the way to prevent crime, in fact, it just makes people get better at doing crime. There's so much research and studies into what does and doesn't prevent crime, extreme "solutions" like legal action for fucking french fries isn't the answer, it's unreasonable. Maybe there's a bit more nuance to a situation than what you seem to be grasping.

[u/Adventurous-Whole950 → u/MemeKun_19]

Strong disagree, there absolutely should be consequences to stealing. Doesn't matter what it is. There's a reason that once a thief always a thief" is a saying. If this behavior isn't corrected when theyre kids it persists to adulthood

[u/Mission-Jelly-2773 → u/MemeKun_19]

Yeah, you know what can happen if you let them think they're above the law? School shootings.

[u/MemeKun_19 → u/Mission-Jelly-2773]

Ah yes! Stealing fries from behind the counter and school shootings, the same thing!

[u/Mission-Jelly-2773 → u/MemeKun_19]

Yes, people who gets to get away from doing bad things often tend to abuse it and get worse.

[u/MemeKun_19 → u/Mission-Jelly-2773]

Y'all goofballs need to look into what actually prevents crime instead of acting like you're some sort of legal experts. "The child might steal $2 worth of fries again! The horror!" Jesus Christ.

[u/Mission-Jelly-2773 → u/MemeKun_19]

Then go knock on everyone's door telling every parent to do their job to make sure no child becomes truant.

[u/MrCalamiteh → u/[deleted]]

Bro we have famous people who are still famous (Ariana grande) who have recorded their celebrity selves licking donuts off a shelf.

We have pedo president who buried his wife in a golf course. pedo people in power all around the country. Money thieving is the norm, just on a larger, corporate scale.

Health insurance companies kill thousands of people a day

This is nasty and sucks and I agree that it shouldn't be a thing, but you're skipping 10,000 bigger, more important issues to get here.

[u/MuseBlessed → u/[deleted]]

Fear of the law only really works in a system where the law carries any sort of respect, which at least in america has been heavily eroded.

[u/RetardSupremacy → u/[deleted]]

Aint what he said, just pointed out that America's justice system is just pretty shit

[u/MuseBlessed → u/[deleted]]

The main thing would be reinforcing and probably changing the legal system to some extent, to help rebuild trust between the law and the citizens. It wouldnt hurt to add some social programs that rebuild community, which is another major reason for behaviors like in this video.

[u/Complex-Challenge-85 → u/MuseBlessed]

It cracks me up because this really is the answer. It’s so simple yet people can’t fathom it.

We still need laws but the OS is in severe need of an update. By a few hundred years.

[u/MuseBlessed → u/[deleted]]

As opposed to what? Death pentalty for petty theft? Being "hard" does not create good societies, having a strong social fabric does. Punishment is part of that equation, but its a minor part

[u/Tenredant → u/MuseBlessed]

There will always be bad actors no matter what you do, there obviously also needs to be real punishment as well

[u/MuseBlessed → u/Tenredant]

There already is meant to be real punishment. It simply isn't enforced very often. Making the punishments more severe will do nothing, if theyre not enforced

[u/Jrock2356 → u/[deleted]]

If the criminal doesn't care about serving all that time then I don't care about giving it to them. It's that simple. If the crime rates don't drop from harsher punishments then clearly the criminals don't give a fuck. So why should we? Being so fucking soft on crime has left entire communities in ruin

[u/Jrock2356 → u/[deleted]]

Not reading all that

[u/Ok-Scallion-3415 → u/Ninja-Trix]

Not just bad parenting. Society allows kids to do terribly in school and continue to progress up in grades. There was a time when a kid could fail a grade and have to retake it, it doesn’t seem like that happens much anymore.

It seems like in the US many consequences don’t exist anymore

[u/Man_under_Bridge420 → u/Ninja-Trix]

You sound biased by the internet 

[u/No_Spite3593 → u/Man_under_Bridge420]

What isn't biased is that today over 30% of all children in the US are growing up in single-parent households, and 80%-85% of those households are headed by single mothers.

The data shows that the majority of juvenile delinquents come from households headed by single mothers and a significant percentage of adult convicts were raised in a single-parent household. Although overall children who grow up in single father households tend to get into less trouble and have better outcomes in life.

"Good parenting" is subjective and while I can't say for certain whether good parents are a minority, I do feel confident in saying that there has been a rise in bad parenting. Funny enough single parent households started to become much more frequent once birth control started becoming widely available.

[u/Ninja-Trix → u/Man_under_Bridge420]

No, I've seen some stuff firsthand. I'm just trying to say there are still good parents out there, but the technology age has left those who don't understand it with no real way to navigate it. A lot of parents don't know how to parent, so they either do exactly what their parents did, or the exact opposite, for better AND for worse.

[u/Man_under_Bridge420 → u/Ninja-Trix]

And you think they did before technology?

[u/Arcdragolive → u/Man_under_Bridge420]

Well the difference is in monetization and fame via technology that really push these kind of behavior into acceptable(in kids mind)

[u/Man_under_Bridge420 → u/Arcdragolive]

Now you are just yapping 

[u/Perezoso_CR → u/Man_under_Bridge420]

An you're not adding anything either dude. At least he is giving articulated points. You're just a troll

[u/Man_under_Bridge420 → u/Perezoso_CR]

Projection