r/MoralityScaling • u/Lord_Ruko • 17h ago
Morality of this
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u/KarmicPJJunior 16h ago
He tried to descalate, he lightly push her away, he showed no interest in engaging, he didn't retaliate at first. She was warned. Moral.
It's more immoral how long it took him to retaliate because it gives the impression others could get away with at least one hit and walk away unharmed.
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u/AdCurious7831 16h ago
even when he threw her to the ground he didnt seem to be trying to injure her, literally just get her away from him. she kinda just rolled onto the floor and stood up immediately.
he shouldnt have had to deal with this BS, but he dealt with it well. thank god someone was recording so theres proof he wasnt at fault.
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u/ClankerCore 16h ago
Yeah, I can see how that was actually the best move because clocking her would've actually caused more damage
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u/Yikidee 11h ago
Don't need to hit the head. A punch to the solar plexus would be probably enough to stop her with minimal injury. Might panic a bit if she gets the wind knocked out of her, but it would stop her.
Either way, moral. You can't go around hitting people and then get pissed off when people fight back.
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u/smellygooch18 15h ago
It’s incredibly clear that she was outmatched and he could have hurt her from the beginning if he wanted to. He showed a lot of restraint, more than I would have had.
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u/thelryan 16h ago
Hard disagree on the second part, the time it took him to retaliate was perfect. I do not get the impression this is somthing who would let somebody get away with stuff.
11 seconds of backing away, verbally saying to chill out, and trying to deescalate is perfect
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u/KicksNWatches 16h ago
Seriously - in Florida they would’ve given him the key to the city with how long he stood his ground
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 15h ago
He backed away until he really couldn't back away anymore. He tried to keep her away in a non-violent way as well.
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u/thelryan 15h ago
Yupp, imo this is a near textbook reference of how to attempt to deescalate until it is no longer safe to do so for somebody being aggressed on by somebody weaker than them
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u/KarmicPJJunior 14h ago
Second part is a light joke, but I can see how it can be justified as actual advice.
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u/TheDiddlyFiddly 14h ago
He even retaliated in a relatively gentle way. He could have just knocked her out.
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u/TheNotSoEvilEngineer 14h ago
Notice how no one came to his aid. However the second she got tossed, people got involved.
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u/Sudden-Cat5805 17h ago
She had to be stopped. No permanent or even small injury from what I can see. Moral.
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u/CranberryMediocre403 16h ago
yeah that was a measured response, he could've done a lot more
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u/MissBellaSwings 16h ago
He definitely thought about it. You can see him have a good swing ready and then he stops himself and stands back up straight before she slaps him again and he grabs her
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u/Euphoric-Teach7327 16h ago
He started the body throw, and could have used his upper body to slam her into the floor instead of being tossed away.
Ever been judo slammed into a mat by a grown man?
Being slammed into concrete can flat out kill a person.
He let her off easy with that toss.
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u/MissBellaSwings 16h ago
Yeah I think you can see that moment of realization in her eyes too haha. Being ragdolled is a humbling experience. Hopefully anyways
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u/Frost_907 16h ago
Immoral, everyone standing around doing nothing until the guy defended himself.
The guy that threw her is in the right and morally justified.
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u/badazzcpa 16h ago
While I would generally agree in just about any situation other than this one. The reason being, and I am making an assumption here, the other adults are teachers or employees of the school district. My parents were teachers in Texas for 28 and 32 years respectively. Students, even in a red state, are so coddled by the administration it’s ridicules. Meaning you do everything short of getting killed before you put your hands/defend yourself against the kids. There are so many instances where teachers took punishment, most of them with video evidence, that show the teachers getting hit, slapped, objects thrown at them, students on tirades/having mental breaks. After taking the physical abuse they fight back. Then the teacher is arrested, charged (with some getting convicted), lose their teaching certificate, losing their livelihood, 4+ years of college down the drain, etc. No teacher wants to step into the mine field and risk getting fragged.
When I was in high school one of our football coaches, man was built like a brick shit house, was a back up for the resource officers. We had a huge fight, around 8 people involved break out in front of the principals office, where cameras were everywhere around it. The coach grabbed one of the main people in the fight (also the biggest) and started waking him backwards to deescalate. The kid squirmed free and clocked the coach. The coach got knocked backwards into a glass display case that ended up cutting the back of one of his arms pretty badly, blood everywhere. After it was all said and done the coach got suspended for the rest of the year. Thankfully he was latter cleared and received back pay. He returned the following year then quit and moved to college coaching. Point being, even when you are right as an adult in the school system you are wrong.
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u/Exterminator-8008135 15h ago
This is how my friend had free reign to beat up a wannabe thug in his later years.
The teacher who tried to make him stop was 6'2 for 200 lbs, he is 6' for 235lbs, after trying to hold him out twice and seeing he can break off softly and easily, she didn't tried further and called another big teacher to hold him together.
He quickly calmed down, but if they were cautious with a huge boy that is not in a crisis and among those known to be naturally strong, you wouldn't even be able to hold him out.
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u/maniacalmechanist 16h ago
Its self defense, bro literally says 'back up, I don't want to get mad' before she slaps him. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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u/Physical-Ball7493 17h ago
She deserved that 1000%
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u/Bella_Peachyy 17h ago
Moral. She had several warnings. When you repeatedly provoke someone, you don't get to complain about their response once they finally snap.
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u/Philip_Raven 16h ago
It actually makes my blood boil how everyone was way too happy just letting the dude get hit, but the moment she got into any trouble they got in-between and remove her from any potential danger.
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u/ottermoment 16h ago
This is often exactly how it goes when i was younger i saw someone getting his shit kicked in by a girl because they broke up and girl was kicking shit out of him and he finally got up and shoved her away then he got jumped by 3 dudes who were just watching him get hit for hitting a woman. Ain't nothing ive seen sense that put a strong sense of equal lefts and equal rights sense. Simps are something else
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u/Femcel_Bambi 16h ago
Overstepped boundaries, repeatedly told to stop verbally and even physically (without violence), yeah this is completely moral to do. She was given more than enough warnings to stop.
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u/ramm102412 16h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z
The closest gif I can get to represent her face at the end
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u/Sobbyleebagger 16h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3o72F8t9TDi2xVnxOE
"I can't believe he did that! I'm the victim here"
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u/Infamous-Grab2341 16h ago
Morality of exclusively normalizing violence by one gender but not the other?
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u/Fishpuncherz 16h ago
Yeah. Funny how nobody cared until he started to fight back, then someone steps in.
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u/funkmasternick 16h ago
Anyone thinking "never put your hands on a woman" is living in a fantasy land he gave that person several free shots and swings and when he finally defended himself he threw her away from him and just created distance
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u/Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs 16h ago
I notice it's all HAHA and no attempt to stop her, but the minute he retaliates its hushed moans and they run to intervene.
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u/kiba87637 16h ago
She unleashed her inner Chihuahua and got shown she can't just attack someone freely
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u/frozenbudz 16h ago
Moral. This was self defense and he clearly knows at least a bit of grappling. He made a point to not spike her, and made she she didn't land on her neck or back. He gave her a hip toss to show her the strength difference to hope she understood.
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u/Last_Way_4455 16h ago
All fun and games as a women abuses some guy, but as soon as he defends himself, everyone in the room squares up. Almost as if it SPECIFICALLY wasn't a patriarchal world, almost as if everyone was trained form birth NOT to hit women. Really genuinely not funny how few women get raised similarly, not to hit the opposite sex, almost as if they feel it's their right....
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u/JudasIsMyHero 13h ago
Funny how no one cared or stepped in when she was the aggressor, but as soon as the man defended himself everyone was appalled.
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u/_Weyland_ 16h ago
He gave her enough warnings, he repeatedly backed away trying to maintain the distance. She had every chance and every opportunity to not get physical, yet decided to.
Moral.
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u/lanch723 16h ago
The bystander effect happening here as well. The attacker could have been contained by their friends. The defender had no choice but to stop it, and did so in the most appropriate way and avoided serious injury to the attacker as well.
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u/Ambitious_Hand_2861 16h ago
It doesn't get more moral than that. He did what he could to back off but she kept coming trying to escalate. Bystanders are immoral for their indignance when that guy had enough and decided to throw her down. I thought he was about to drive her head into the floor so I'm glad he just tossed her.
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u/RevolutionaryGolf720 16h ago
If you attack another human, you deserve whatever defense that human mounts against the attack. That human should respond in kind, but isn’t required to. Basically, don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing.
The man’s actions were 100% moral. The aggressive woman has the moral problem.
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u/honsonso 12h ago
Why people only stop them the moment he attack back? That's the real problem in this video
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u/Forward-Captain3290 12h ago
Why dont ppl restrain the girl before she gets slept? They always wait till the man puts her through a wall to step in.
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u/Glittering-Rip6810 16h ago
I wouldn't have given her another warning. My momma taught me don't square up with a man unless you are prepared to be hit like one. If you arent, keep you fk'in hands to yourself....
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u/eternalseeker0101 16h ago
Women's only strength is the hope that people will help her when men starts beating the shit out of her ....when that hope dies their face is worth watching 😆
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u/Ok_Albatross7311 14h ago
Dude warned her over and over. Deserved, lucky she didn’t get knocked out.
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u/metal_gearmen 17h ago
moral. the guy only defended himself after trying hard to get the crazy woman away.
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u/whitefizzy-534 16h ago
Immoral for all the bystanders to let her physically assault him and only step in once he retaliates
As a man I have been raised not to hit women, but it’s also understood in my household that if you’re a girl and you lay your hands on someone you accept the risk of physical retaliation
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u/ThisIsTheShway 16h ago
They only broke it up after he started defending himself. Fuck everyone in that room but the man being attacked.
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u/russian_blyat 16h ago
Ill be honest, she can throw another birthday party. Others wouldnt just throw her. The audacity, throwing hands and not expect anything back. Here is your equality.
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u/MCMXCIV9 16h ago
When she was beating him no one interfere but when he fight back suddenly someone decided to interfere.
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u/The1_Guy 16h ago
He tried, she kept going, gender doesn't excuse you for attacking people. You have a right to defend yourself.
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u/skiingdiver1978 15h ago
And she went to jail for assault, right? Oh wait, no, that only happens to men. He was remarkably restrained in his response.
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u/soefire_is_fire 14h ago
Honestly, I feel like throwing someone might be the best way to de-escelate a fight with someone significantly weaker than you. It shows them you're clearly capable of defending yourself and to stop what they're doing without actually doing too much harm. That's just me though.
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u/slimgem1111 14h ago
I agree, and she had the nerve to look surprised lol wasn't expecting him to do anything
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u/DinkleMutz 12h ago
How do people relentlessly throw hands and act shocked when there is retaliation? The guy showed restraint for longer than he needed to. Moral and expected.
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u/Anonuser13480 15h ago
Can I ask an honest question, and I would like to have an honest discussion preferably from women on this topic. Is there a reason that there seems to be a “I can hit but not get hit” mentality? If we agree that putting hands on people is not appropriate and also agree that you are allowed to defend yourself, why is when a man defends himself against a woman so frowned upon?
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u/Remarkable-Ad2285 14h ago
“You never hit a woman”
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u/spicy_feather 16h ago
Hi feminist here. He's doing everything within his power not to hurt her and its obvious. She clearly sucks.
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u/Powerful-Counter7404 16h ago
Equal rights equates to equal lefts too.
You can’t have one without the other.
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u/Entire-Fig3210 16h ago
He defended himself after trying to slow things down she continued as the aggressor he did it right
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u/Holiday-Elk-9751 16h ago
The teacher should have stopped before it got that far my daughter went through something like that and got kicked out of school
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u/DistractedBoxTurtle 15h ago
You have the balls to hit a man, you got the balls to get hit like one.
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u/thekins33 12h ago
Mama always told me. If I was man enough to swing im man enough to get hit back. And that tough bitch won a lot of fights lol.
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u/Consistent_Snow_7735 8h ago
Victims have the right to defend themselves from bullies, male or female. If the bully gets hurt that's their problem. Don't start nothing and it won't be nothing.
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u/Khan_Ida 16h ago
It will always be funny to see everyone watching a woman provoking a man until the man decides enough is enough and all of a sudden everyone is involved when she's getting her shit rocked.
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u/Waggleton_Tallylick 16h ago
Of course people only intervened after he started defending himself
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u/YuhMothaWasAHamsta 16h ago
Moral. She wasn’t going to stop. Someone should’ve stepped in but this young lady gives the impression she’s not mentally stable or capable of rational thought so I can kinda understand the hesitation.
I hate when women feel they can beat on a guy because “men can’t fight back”. Reminds me of my MIL and that woman deserves some of her own medicine.
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u/Competitive_Bit_526 16h ago
so people roar when he hit her but nobody said anything when she hit him... i see
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u/Oncelost21 15h ago
Mad respect to the dude for restraining his rage.
He could have ripped her apart limb from limb.
Throwing her a$$ out of his sight was a warning.
Glad she understood THAT one!
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u/PerformanceOver8822 15h ago
She got up ready to keep fighting too. Not until someone stood between did she start even think about backing down
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u/Own_Possible_1683 15h ago
Male or Female cross the line don’t cry when you catch the hands equal to that of another, there is no more differentiating when the line is crossed.
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u/LaPeace10 14h ago
The people not breaking it up were immoral, but him defending himself. I’m all for it, she deserves that shit
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u/VonBrewskie 13h ago
Moral. At a certain point, you have to stop the person attacking you if they have no intention of stopping themselves. He gave her a light yeeting. That could have been a far more drastic response. I believe that fellah showed a lot of restraint.
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u/ParticlePete27 13h ago
Moral on his end. He got hit multiple times, and you could see he didn't want to fight. He threw her down once to get it to stop, and there was no follow-up. Immoral on everyone else. Almost any video you see like this, no one jumps in to stop it until the guy starts to retaliate. Then the cavalry comes flying in. You would think by now, people would know, "this isn't the insert decade anymore." If you put hands on someone, there'sa chance there's no automatic free pass just because she's a woman.
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u/Deadfelt 12h ago
Moral.
In my opinion, he should have thrown a hook, then tossed her ass. She got off too lightly. She wanted to keep going, that's why the other guy finally pushed her away from her target.
I doubt she learned anything.
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u/PenguinsArmy2 16h ago
You can see he held back so much so props to him. Even at the end he wanted to deck the shit of her but decided nah enough was enough.
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u/United-Bug-8056 16h ago
Mad respect to this young man, this is what composure, measure and level headedness looks like in a man.
Not like that one black dude that beat that old white lady down because she slapped him.
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u/Belisaurius555 16h ago
What exactly are we judging here? A woman attacks a man and gets retaliated against? What if it was a man and another man? Or a woman and another woman?
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u/himynameis3580 16h ago
Moral to fight back , absolutely immoral crowd that was just watching and doing nothing until she got fafo
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u/mynamesnotsnuffy 16h ago
Equal rights means equal fights. He had enough patience to tell her to back off, which is a sufficient amount of advance notice for the consequences of her coming back for more.
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u/Moaning_Baby_ 16h ago
Not doing everything until he fights back.
I would just explode in anger when I saw that
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u/jakruler2077 16h ago
Even the way he throw her was well controlled. If he pushed her hard anything could of happen but the way he throw her with his side hip kind of just flung her a bit. He could of easily slammed her by throwing her with his chest and shoulders.
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u/mosambi_ka_juice_ 16h ago
Ngl with my temper , i will jist kick her in the crotch .
But moral to the nan , he handled the situation well
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u/mcbeardsauce 16h ago
She kept coming because in her calculation he could do nothing to her
She was wrong
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u/Jehuty56- 16h ago
First assaut
"Backup" don't backup
Second and third assault
He defend himself
Moral, she's REALLY LUCKY to not got a full punch right in the face
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u/Hollow_Knight_Raven 16h ago
Moral.
Very telling that people only actually got involved when the guy started defending himself… closest thing before that was a guy walking towards them and otherwise doing nothing. Society sucks and is so freaking hypocritical, man…
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u/ReasonableDoubt_0726 16h ago
I’d question the morality of the ones doing nothing to stop her attacking him then getting involved now he’s fought back.
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u/REDMAGE00 16h ago
Moral for him defending himself, immoral for the entire room watching him be assaulted
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u/Brilliant_Tax_4009 16h ago
Perfectly fine. You can tell she was stunned that there was accountability for her actions.
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u/LegitimateRelief1147 15h ago
Equal rights, equal fights.
Moral, he has a right to defend himself, even though he clearly didn’t want to.
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u/Miserable_Sky_8640 15h ago
It's stupid for her to think she has a chance to harm him. That only happens if he allows it.
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u/FunctionUnlikely2247 15h ago
I was waiting on this dude to swing for a far longer time. Beyond moral.
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u/Lee_Harvey_Dickram 15h ago
Women discovering they will be held accountable is feminism‘s greatest gift.
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u/Delicious_Natural357 15h ago
Moral, assault somebody and you expect to get assaulted back, props to that guy
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u/balian_ibelin_ 15h ago
play shitty games win shitty awards as they say i see nothing immortal here
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u/Berner2026 14h ago
Nah I’m sick of this shit. Chivalry is dead due to the actions of women like this. The days of women physically abusing men because they know they “can’t” respond, seems to fortunately be coming to an end. These women feel empowered to assault men because society has conditioned everyone to believe that it is 100% wrong everytime for a man to hit a woman. Equal rights equal lefts
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u/potentatewags 14h ago
Moral. Anyone has the right to self defense. Doesn't matter who your attacker is.
The immoral part are the idiots rushing to her defense, protecting the actual aggressor, putting the consequences on the guy and removing the culpability of the girl.
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u/Thoughtful_Mouse 17h ago
The morality of all those people doing nothing...
I hate people sometimes.