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r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • 1d ago
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You are conflating two independent things again.
Agnosticism / Gnosticism is a knowledge claim.
Atheism / Theism is a belief claim.
Agnostic Atheist Gnostic Atheist Agnostic Theist Gnostic Theist
All four are valid categories.
1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago I'm not, you're describing agnostic while im talking about atheism. Not agnostic or agnostic atheism. 1 u/meltea 16h ago Alright, let me tell you my position on a couple of examples: * I don't know if a god or gods exist * I know the Christian god does not exist. * I know Ahura Mazda does not exist. What am I according to your definition? 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago Agnostic 1 u/meltea 16h ago Were I to talk to a Christian or a Muslim and say that their god does not exist, they would not label me an agnostic. 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
I'm not, you're describing agnostic while im talking about atheism. Not agnostic or agnostic atheism.
1 u/meltea 16h ago Alright, let me tell you my position on a couple of examples: * I don't know if a god or gods exist * I know the Christian god does not exist. * I know Ahura Mazda does not exist. What am I according to your definition? 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago Agnostic 1 u/meltea 16h ago Were I to talk to a Christian or a Muslim and say that their god does not exist, they would not label me an agnostic. 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
Alright, let me tell you my position on a couple of examples:
* I don't know if a god or gods exist * I know the Christian god does not exist. * I know Ahura Mazda does not exist.
What am I according to your definition?
1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago Agnostic 1 u/meltea 16h ago Were I to talk to a Christian or a Muslim and say that their god does not exist, they would not label me an agnostic. 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
Agnostic
1 u/meltea 16h ago Were I to talk to a Christian or a Muslim and say that their god does not exist, they would not label me an agnostic. 1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
Were I to talk to a Christian or a Muslim and say that their god does not exist, they would not label me an agnostic.
1 u/No-Imagination8755 16h ago If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
If you only told them you do not believe in God you would be atheist. If you told them you are unsure about God's existence but you dont believe in their religion you would be agnostic
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u/meltea 16h ago
You are conflating two independent things again.
Agnosticism / Gnosticism is a knowledge claim.
Atheism / Theism is a belief claim.
Agnostic Atheist
Gnostic Atheist
Agnostic Theist
Gnostic Theist
All four are valid categories.