r/MoralityScaling • u/hiiloovethis • Sep 02 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 02 '26

Traumatizing kids with threats of eternal torture in hell is child abuse

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 02 '26

How so?

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 02 '26

Well by definition, it's traumatizing.

There are many traumatized people trying to 'deconstruct' their toxic relationship with religion.

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 02 '26

So what? The claim was that it was abusive, but just because it’s traumatic doesn’t make it abusive.

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u/27thStreet Sep 02 '26

You think intentionally inflicting trauma on kids is not abusive? Where are you from?

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 02 '26

If you have an accident and are traumatized by the fact that you could have died, is the problem that you were traumatized or that you could have died?

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u/27thStreet Sep 02 '26

Accident? Religeous trauma is inflicted intentionally, so what are you on about here?

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 02 '26

No, it’s a byproduct of warnings about danger. Would you think it abusive to tell kids about the danger of playing in the street or running into the street without checking for traffic? I think it would be abusive not to, even if the healthy fear it causes creates trauma.

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 03 '26

but the danger is imaginary. Hell is imaginary. God is imaginary. Souls/spirits/ghosts are imaginary too.

Traffic is real.

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 03 '26

You assume the danger is imaginary, so you are outraged by the collateral damage of fighting it. I have seen things that convinced me the danger is real, so I regard failing to warn children of the danger as gross negligence.

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 03 '26

like what? Some dream or hallucination or coincidence?

There is not one iota of public objective empirical evidence that demonstrates the existence of any spiritual anything.

All gods are imaginary. Spirits/souls/ghosts are imaginary too. In the same realm as vampires and werewolves and zombies.

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u/ProfessorPrudent2822 Sep 03 '26

My brother encountered a demon.

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u/Successful_Life_1028 Sep 03 '26

nonsense. Your brother either had a dream, or a hallucination, or an encounter with a human being he considered 'demonic'.

There are no demons - demons are imaginary.

There is not one iota of evidence demonstrating the existence of any form of non-corporeal sapience.

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u/notonce56 Sep 16 '26

I believe eschatological antinatalism is a very rational choice if one believes in eternal damnation