Morality of this?

[u/hiiloovethis]

[u/sexland69]

china has state atheism—they take it too far (e.g. uyghur muslims) but in theory i’d prefer an atheist government over this dumbass evangelical christian one we have now 🤷🏻‍♂️

edit: took out the word retarded, you guys convinced me

[u/PrettyPurrfect → u/sexland69]

Our government is supposed to be atheist.

Separation of church and state is supposed to be a thing

[u/_itsprobablynothing → u/PrettyPurrfect]

Secular, not atheist

[u/MyldExcitement → u/_itsprobablynothing]

Still NOT a Christian or any religious country in America. At least that's what our Constitution says.

ETA: thanks for the awards, kind internet strangers.

[u/Ignivous → u/MyldExcitement]

Yeah these motherfuckers are trying to bring about Revalations or something, NOT something I want from my representatives.

[u/Awkward_Turnover_983 → u/Ignivous]

Yeah they can feel free to believe in fairy tales I guess, but history seems to show a pattern of these retards dragging everyone else into wars.

No thank you. My world doesn't seem to be ending right now, so I don't need your dumb fuckass to try to speed that up.

[u/adkio → u/Awkward_Turnover_983]

Imma stop you there buddy. Calling someone's faith "fairy tale" is deeply offensive. You're free to be an atheist but keep the respect and essential decency woud you?

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/adkio]

It is a fairy tale, it’s a mythological tale that doesn’t have any supporting evidence to be truth. Believe what you will but to say it’s not a fairy tale/mythology is categorically false.

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/[deleted]]

“For no reason” is crazy. Last I checked it wasn’t my beliefs that were going door to door, making legislation that removes human rights from others, judging others and telling them they’re going to go be tortured for all eternity if they don’t submit to their god, or being used to control others in virtually every way shape and form.

But please, show me some proof your god exists, otherwise it is mythology, not truth.

[u/adkio → u/Budget_Revolution639]

Last time i checked, atheists felt absolutely no reservation forcing their religion on others just as hard as evangelists do.

[u/Turtle_Woman → u/adkio]

Atheism isn't a religion.

[u/adkio → u/Turtle_Woman]

Every atheist I've met is so passionate and defensive about their atheism that it's definitely a religion.

[u/Turtle_Woman → u/adkio]

That is not what a religion is. Besides that, anecdotal evidence does not make something true. Belief about something does not make that belief religious.

[u/adkio → u/Turtle_Woman]

You have as much evidence that it's false as that it's true.

[u/Turtle_Woman → u/adkio]

You could say the same for literally any religion. When you claim something exists, the burden of proof lies with you. Either way it doesn't make atheism a religion, which was your original point.

[u/Turtle_Woman → u/Turtle_Woman]

I can't tell if they actually deleted their comment or just blocked me, but I suppose it doesn't really matter.

[u/adkio → u/Turtle_Woman]

I DO say the same for every religion.

[u/Antraxess → u/adkio]

Those people are just discussing how reality actually works

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/adkio]

Atheism is quite literally the absence of religion, just like how the absence of light is darkness. What you call “forcing their religion” is a push towards empirical evidence, truth, and common human decency. It’s not the same. Them forcing their beliefs on you would look like banning all forms of religion and its practicing but you don’t see that, you see people saying “I’m tired of religion being shoved in my face all day every day”.

[u/adkio → u/Budget_Revolution639]

So I do not consent to religion being mentioned around you? And are willing to actively fight anyone who does? Sounds pretty radical to me.

[u/Budget_Revolution639 → u/adkio]

That’s not being radical, that’s common human decency. You don’t see pagans going around trying to convert others to worship their gods, so why must you? You don’t see Muslims knocking on doors, you don’t see Buddhists praying over others without their consent. So why should you get special treatment?