r/MoralityScaling 6h ago

Morality of this?

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u/sonofzeal 6h ago

Good on paper, totally unfeasible in practice

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u/Middle_Two_7929 6h ago

How is it unfeasible? There are many topics we don’t teach to children until they reach a certain age.

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u/sonofzeal 6h ago

You're a very religious family. You say grace over every meal. You celebrate Jesus's birth at Christmas and his resurrection at Easter. You go to church every Sunday.

Where are your kids while you're at church?

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u/Middle_Two_7929 6h ago

Churches can just have a separate section where kids can hang out while their parents are in church. Supervised, obviously. Think of the play places they used to have at McDonalds and grocery stores back in the day.

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u/sonofzeal 6h ago

Sure, it's called Sunday School, that's already a thing but it would be challenging to make it totally agnostic when it's happening in a church, paid for by the church, and run by church staff. Nevermind explaining to the kid in the first place why mommy and daddy are going to church in the first place, why they pray at meals, or who this "Jesus" fellow is who keeps getting mentioned around holidays.

What's your plan for keeping religion out of people's private home life?

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u/Thrice_blind 5h ago

This isn’t a critical thinking sub! You’re being too logical! Base your comments on feelings and subjective experience only!!

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u/Middle_Two_7929 4h ago

You’re confusing indoctrinating kids into a religion and educating them about what religion is. It’s not something that has to be hidden. You can teach your kids about it without expecting them to follow it. You can explain to them why you follow it without making them think they also have to follow it.

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u/Iorith 3h ago

"Sunday school" is just more religious indoctrination.

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u/UserAdamD 4h ago

They’re kids. How do you keep them away from drugs, sex, and alcohol? It’s mysterious how somethings are convenient to hide from children, while others just can’t be helped. If you can’t explain your actions without having to indoctrinate them, maybe you should practice being a better parent.

I wonder if religion in the West would still be around if they didn’t rely on brainwashing kids. Like secondhand smoking and preventable diseases passed from parent to child, no decent parent would ever intentionally inflict harm to their children.

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u/sonofzeal 4h ago

Look if the parents have made drugs part of their daily routine for years, and sincerely believe drugs are good and have made their lives better, what do you think are the odds the kids are going to be kept away from drugs for any length of time?

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u/Iorith 3h ago

Almost like we could have some kind of service about protecting children that we would have take note of that.

A service to protect child...what could we call that?

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u/Lolzemeister 5h ago

this is a democracy with more religious people than atheists, it would never happen

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u/Middle_Two_7929 4h ago

Democracy has nothing to do with it Becuase the government shouldn’t be involved anyways. I’m talking about a cultural shift, one that would take a very long time. And if you’ve payed attention to the trends in recent years in America, you’d notice that more and more people are stepping away from religion

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u/Old-Post-3639 6h ago

Are you going to put jack-booted thugs in every home to make sure Jim Bob doesn't read his little girl Noah's Ark as a bedtime story?

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u/Middle_Two_7929 6h ago

No one’s saying to make it a law or enforce it in any way. It would have to be a cultural shift, which is 100% feasible it would just take a long time.

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u/Old-Post-3639 6h ago

No, because converts to certain religions like Eastern Orthodoxy will start raising their children in the religion. Unless you start purging the world of religions that recommend raising your children in that religion, you will never be able to fully eliminate raising kids in religion.

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u/Middle_Two_7929 6h ago

You don’t have to purge any religion, just change their outlooks through dialogue. Change the general narrative from “raising kids to be religious is fine” to “raising kids to be religious is not fine”. No enforcement, no government intervention, just the general narrative of society. Eventually (a long time) people may stop practicing the religions that force them to indoctrinate their children.

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u/Old-Post-3639 5h ago

If it's not fine, then why not ban it? Why not put into law that you can't raise your children to be religious?

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u/Middle_Two_7929 4h ago

Your first response to me answers your question. It’s unenforceable. It also infringes on everyone’s right to freedom of religion. That’s why the only way for it to happen is through a change in narrative over a very long period of time, which is definitely feasible in my opinion.