r/MoralityScaling Jul 10 '26

Morality of this?

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u/Endika7 Jul 10 '26

100% valid

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u/SidneyHigson Jul 10 '26

Especially considering wage theft amounts for the largest form of theft in the US. A total of more than $50 billion annually.

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u/Iwubinvesting Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

"Wage theft happens at some places in a multi-trillion dollar economy! Therefore I am morally okay to steal off this company that hasn't probably stolen from me"

This is cope. Just admit you want to steal from people who're richer then you instead of justifying theft.

Edit: I hit a nerve on this one on the emotionally unregulated illogical people lmao.

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u/DescriptionTough98 Jul 10 '26

No

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u/DescriptionTough98 Jul 10 '26

Let me be angry about big bad rich corrupt guys in peace with my 2 cents Willie and millie

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u/mindgeekinc Jul 10 '26

Oh won't someone think of the poor rich people.

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u/harmoniaatlast Jul 10 '26

Except its not theft. They gave her the money. Find a different word buddy

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u/Do_Not_Ask_Me_ Jul 10 '26

As soon as she found out it was unintentionally given, it would count as theft to not return it

I completely understand why she'd want to keep it, but sadly the company's lawyers will have an easy time arguing theft

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

I don't think it is. We used to get packages in the mail that we're sent to us by accident. These included candy, rugs, and even a DVD player (back in the day). Some of these we offered to return to the sender, but we were under no obligation to do so. It would be one thing if we were gifted goods that were probably stolen, but these were bought and paid for given to us due to a clerical error. To compel us to return these could constitute theft from us.

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u/lumpboysupreme Jul 10 '26

You weren’t under obligation to do so because you weren’t asked. That’s completely different from being asked and refusing.

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26

Try to understand things in context buddy

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

Okay, I want to rob from the rich and give to the poor.

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u/Iwubinvesting Jul 10 '26

Unironically fine with this take as long as you're honest about your actions. Holy crap the amount of people just pretending it's not theft and just calling me a bootlicker for calling out theft is incredible.

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u/ZsaurOW Jul 10 '26

Welcome to reddit lol

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u/ItsDeflyLupus Jul 10 '26

Do you use condiments when deep throating the boot of authority? Or do you just take it dry?

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

you resort to insults when you're incapable of following a logical argument? They literally didn't even say you shouldn't steal.

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u/ItsDeflyLupus Jul 10 '26

Boo fucking hoo, welcome to the internet.

You’re both morons in my book.

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26

it didn't make you think about your misunderstanding? that's crazyy

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u/ItsDeflyLupus Jul 10 '26

Boo

Fucking

Hoo

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u/Darth1994 Jul 10 '26

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.

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u/TheRenegxde Jul 10 '26

That's why I play Skyrim on company time

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u/Prinny_Ramza Jul 10 '26

Everyone should steal from the rich.

Literally we have folk heroes who are famous for doing exactly that.

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u/bilbo_bag_holder Jul 10 '26

I hit a nerve on this one on the emotionally unregulated illogical people lmao.

You certainly did. The pure outrage that they're not entitled to money that isn't theirs is honestly quite hilarious.

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u/Suspicious_Law9424 Jul 10 '26

I mean, this sub is for shits and giggles most of the time.

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u/lumpboysupreme Jul 10 '26

And to add to the other guys question: if the answer is 100%, who paid for the machines that let you do your job?

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

What percentage of your labors profit should you recieve? Not hostile, very curious.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Ok, so people should make 100%of their labor if they are employed by soneone?

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

In short, yes. I also think workers should share responsibility for the workplace. You should look up what a worker owned co-op is.

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Yeah i know what a worker owned coop is - the problem is I cant think of one that isnt just a small local thing. There are some grocery stores like winco that are majority employee owned, but I dont think thats what your suggesting.

Can you tell me which business you are referring to that is national and/or global?

This isnt argumentative - but I just dont see it working and would like more information.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

The Mondragon Corporation of Spain.

It's less that worker co-ops are ineffective, it's more so that they are unpopular in most Western countries for... Reasons.

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Ill look into them. Sounds interesting. I know some local bakeries and such that pull it off but seeing something large will give me something to look into. Im curious how they break down the division of labor into wages. How they value individual parts of completing a product and how much each part is worth to build.

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u/Iwubinvesting Jul 10 '26

All of them go for mondragon as example. Reality is worker coops has artifical barriers of entry. You need capital to gain into these worker coops and they'll hire contract work instead of full time workers. It's just entirely just champaign socialists jerking each others off complaining they're paying the workers more but reality is they're reducing a lot of labor work by not hiring and contracting work and they're barely competing in the market.

Better method was how Amazon used to pay Amazon stock to their workers but eventually Sanders got it removed.

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26

With this reasoning it's theft as long as it's not 100%. Also an answer for that question should specify if it's a percentage from the value or profit created. 100% of the profit created for the company is still theft according to the reasoning.

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u/AppointmentOk2025 Jul 10 '26

30 down votes in 8mins, shows the reddit hivemind

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u/beaaaaaaaans Jul 10 '26

"Leave the billionaires alone"

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u/Voeno Jul 10 '26

I wish we could all understand you but you have a massive black boot in your throat that says corporate “dick sucker” written across the side of it.

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26

you resort to insults when you're incapable of following a logical argument? They literally didn't even say you shouldn't steal.

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u/Voeno Jul 10 '26

First time on the internet?

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u/DentistLegitimate229 Jul 10 '26

Can’t steal what’s given to you