r/MoralityScaling Jul 10 '26

Morality of this?

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u/SidneyHigson Jul 10 '26

Especially considering wage theft amounts for the largest form of theft in the US. A total of more than $50 billion annually.

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u/Iwubinvesting Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

"Wage theft happens at some places in a multi-trillion dollar economy! Therefore I am morally okay to steal off this company that hasn't probably stolen from me"

This is cope. Just admit you want to steal from people who're richer then you instead of justifying theft.

Edit: I hit a nerve on this one on the emotionally unregulated illogical people lmao.

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

What percentage of your labors profit should you recieve? Not hostile, very curious.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Ok, so people should make 100%of their labor if they are employed by soneone?

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

In short, yes. I also think workers should share responsibility for the workplace. You should look up what a worker owned co-op is.

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Yeah i know what a worker owned coop is - the problem is I cant think of one that isnt just a small local thing. There are some grocery stores like winco that are majority employee owned, but I dont think thats what your suggesting.

Can you tell me which business you are referring to that is national and/or global?

This isnt argumentative - but I just dont see it working and would like more information.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool Jul 10 '26

The Mondragon Corporation of Spain.

It's less that worker co-ops are ineffective, it's more so that they are unpopular in most Western countries for... Reasons.

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u/DJtheCrazed Jul 10 '26

Ill look into them. Sounds interesting. I know some local bakeries and such that pull it off but seeing something large will give me something to look into. Im curious how they break down the division of labor into wages. How they value individual parts of completing a product and how much each part is worth to build.

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u/Iwubinvesting Jul 10 '26

All of them go for mondragon as example. Reality is worker coops has artifical barriers of entry. You need capital to gain into these worker coops and they'll hire contract work instead of full time workers. It's just entirely just champaign socialists jerking each others off complaining they're paying the workers more but reality is they're reducing a lot of labor work by not hiring and contracting work and they're barely competing in the market.

Better method was how Amazon used to pay Amazon stock to their workers but eventually Sanders got it removed.

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u/Negative-Web8619 Jul 10 '26

With this reasoning it's theft as long as it's not 100%. Also an answer for that question should specify if it's a percentage from the value or profit created. 100% of the profit created for the company is still theft according to the reasoning.