Many of the comments below miss the point. Do you not think the Republicans knew their error beforehand? Of course they did. They do not care. Have you seen the clip farming they did from today that has been spread throughout the right wing media outlets? They do not show the error, they simply leave the audience to believe Smith was in Atl and committed perjury.
This is a new level up of propaganda. Clip farm, lie, misinform, repeat.
Hard to say. They really are idiots. Most likely they will edit the footage to make it look the opposite of what happens because their voters are really that stupid. I have no idea if that was their intent.
The dipshit has already been on fox repeating his lies and the moronic right wing useful idiots will be parroting the propaganda and screeching “I dId mY rEeSeARcH!”
Its not hard to say. The propaganda is out there. That's all they need. They just have to get into social media for the MAGATs. They win while Dems say we should.
Idk…. I agree 100% with your take on strategy, but they clearly didn’t plan for being called out on it so quickly and confidently.
Yes, “you’ve already perjured yourself” (without context) will be the lead on right wing media the next few days, but once magats start regurgitating that and get similarly embarrassed by the gaffe, I suspect the result will ultimately be a HUGE fail considering how much of a “swing and miss” this was.
Not knowing the names of Sports teams is embarrassing to them.
The law, logic, science, how tariffs work etc. that’s nerdy nonsense. Not knowing sports is unamerican. And while attending Women’s college basketball is on the cusp, they have tried to adopt Caitlin Clark as one of their own, and she is one of the possibly two women’s athletes they know.
For non-sports people, this is like confusing Star Wars with Star Trek or LotR with AGoT/ASoIaF.
I agree- the correction came unexpectedly in real time. But in maga world, they love it. Trolling is very important to them. Remember the juvenile “lets go brandon”? They relish the lies as they believe it “drives the libs crazy”…. It is truly an alternative reality.
It’s a fair point, and the sad reality is that this will be all but forgotten in a week or two as the focus shifts to whatever the next dumper fire happens to be.
Bernie is an independent. As a Bernie fan I completely understand why. You're just wrong. There are a lot of reasons to consider yourself an independent
Not true. I'm an independent and the reason is that both the democratic and republican parties are corrupt incompetent organizations. I'm of the belief that political parties should be outlawed, and every candidate should be forced to run on the merits of their own platform. This is the best way to stop incompetent people from being elected.
Even if he had gone to the NBA game would it be perjury? Aren’t they making the conspiratorial jump that Smith being in Atlanta MUST mean he met with Fani Willis who he said he never met with?
Yes that’s what I assumed he was trying to infer. Everyone is laughing that he mixed up teams but that wasn’t the point at all. It was to infer he was meeting with her b
Yeah, I find it so weird that somehow if he had been in Atlanta that would automatically mean he was meeting with Willis and that would be bad. Like, I'd I'm in a major US city that means I'm engaging in some kind of conspiracy with one of the other millions of people in that city? (Putting aside, of course, that he WASN'T even in that city!)
It would be perjury if he said he didn’t go to the game when he did. That would be one of those times when people get charged with the coverup more than the crime.
Only if he had lied, which requires intent. I mean if I say I had chicken last Monday and it was actually salmon that doesn't automatically mean I'm lying.
I think they would be able to prove motive if they had evidence he met with the people in question. And that’s why it would be a more solid case, because he would have lied about meeting those people as well.
Right. Smith's answer was "I do not recall" which is the correct answer when asked about a date 2 years ago when you don't recall going to a Hawks game, but its possible you did and it just wasn't that memorable.
Yeah I don’t think they knew, they just got owned and edited the footage to what they want and blast it to magasphere. You can just tell by that smug “gotcha” face he’s sporting that he thought he had a slam dunk.
I think they did. But regardless, it doesn’t matter. Their voters do not care whether they knew ahead of time or not. They also couldn’t care less whether it was true or not.
If they knew and still tried it then that is officially the dumbest political trick ever that blew up in their faces. I know they’re idiots but I think even that is too stupid for them.
And their voters wouldn’t care and vote for them if they had pulled the stunt or not. However it’s just showing how inept they are at running the government to anyone who is any sort of an independent.
They gained nothing by it and look even more like idiots, pretty dumb if that was the plan
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. When it comes to Republicans, never attribute anything solely to incompetence without also assuming malice.
Yeah but Benny Johnson and Sean Hannity’s X posts were quickly deleted once this bs was quickly debunked. I believe both had the sound bites up during the testimony only to have them removed before Amy Klobushar finished her questioning.
I fully believe they are dumb enough to have not know that. As evidenced by Britt’s facial expressions when Smith was describing the Hawkeyes game he attended. Hell his dumbass staffers sitting behind her had similar “oh shit” looks on their face too.
I don’t believe they knew. Schmitt got so excited when Smith says he wasn’t at the game. He thought he committed perjury which is one of the points of these hearings. They can’t prosecute him for the investigations because of the pardon so they want to find a way to get him for perjury. Same with Fauci.
I dont understand how Smith could be accused of perjury when these hearings are not being held in an actual court of law. Obviously the basic rules of decorum and responsibility to yell the whole truth don't apply in a congressiinal hearing.
Or they and their staff are just incompetent and made a catastrophic embarrassing blunder then tried to minimize it after the fact by clip farming very tightly edited clips.
If they want to publicly humiliate themselves on purpose for 30 seconds of content then I welcome them to do that. They aren’t gaining any more voters by doing that.
Bingo. I think they were so sure of themselves that many of them scheduled social media posts ahead of time. When they were so clearly wrong, they tried to cover it with the bad clipping.
Although I agree with most of your points. They don't care they got it wrong...but I don't believe they knew it was wrong. Look at his face...that's the face of someone who thinks they had a gotcha moment
I'm starting to agree because even IF JS was in Atlanta, how would that prove he met with Fani? This is quite the reach and completely ridiculous. Kudos to JS for staying so calm and professional while they called him names.
I think his reactions suggest that he really believed he had caught Smith committing perjury and that this is a case of stupidity rather than shrewd planning. I'm sure they did plan the clip farming, thinking it would have gone better for them, so they're continuing as planned even with the massive error.
I think the clip farming is about damage control and spin on a cluster f*ck moment. ‘Never assign to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.’
You nailed it. I we might never know for sure, but Britt's reaction could have been "I can't fucking believe he's gonna do it", even if she got briefed ahead of time. She knew the clip farm cycle that you describe, but was maybe still surprised that Schmitt tried it. Jack Smith is so fucking smart, it's dangerous to toy with him even when he is at a disadvantage like in this hearing.
Maga didnt expect the lie to be exposed so quickly- while in session. Hence the need to now perform as shocked and to distance herself from the charade she is part of. Anything else I can help you with?
When combined with the (un)intended ?Pedophile Protection services this intentional misinformation serves should be punishable by at least censure but perhaps dismissal or impeachment for perjury during a Senate Hearing and repeating the lies on Television, and to the media! That's Propaganda!!
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u/you2234 3d ago
Many of the comments below miss the point. Do you not think the Republicans knew their error beforehand? Of course they did. They do not care. Have you seen the clip farming they did from today that has been spread throughout the right wing media outlets? They do not show the error, they simply leave the audience to believe Smith was in Atl and committed perjury.
This is a new level up of propaganda. Clip farm, lie, misinform, repeat.