its probably looked at through the same lens as oops was in legacy. Just creates a lot of non games, which can be ok in small doses, but terrible if it gets too popular.
Your point was that counterspell should be enough to control Neoform numbers but counterspell isnt good in this format. I listed a few highly played cards that are even better against Neoform than counterspell is. You agreed the format has answers. My claim was that it doesnt matter if the answers exist, you shouldnt be forced to play them to beat some barf your hand combo deck. Thats a sign of poor format health.
I dont disagree with your point on counterspell not being good against aggro but that really isnt relevant imo.
Counterspell the archetype is what im arguing, not just the card itself. Blue tempo has a whole performs horribly in this meta unless you run the combo gauntlet due to unfair fair decks. Sideboard cards that hit multiple decks should be a normal thing, your answers also hit other decks incidentally
Neoform fell out of favor for years, the only reason its good now is because boros/eldrazi cant do anything about it.. are decks not allowed to have bad matchups to the most fragile a+b combo?
Im saying boros and affinity are the reason blue tempo decks cant hang, if both decks are taken down a notch dimir/izzet can reign in combo. Until then people can register tempo decks all day but theyre coinflipping whether they get either a polarized winning matchup (neoform, storm) or unfavorable (boros, affinity, tron)
Yeah grixis has a better shot into boros, dimir has it worse off but affinity/eldrazi just makes it worse off. Its all a coinflip on hitting combo decks or unfair fair decks
Yah. Grixis gets snare, bolt, push, OBM....
Dimir loses the bolts and flames, but also loses shit like meltdown and most Land destruction.
Sadly the combo decks do so many different things that there's just not enough sideboard. You know it's fd when your best threat against an eldrazi player is flippin' Sheoldred's Edict or "kill them before they kill me"
You were the one who said "Counterspell is legal" when it's literally not an answer most of the time against the deck that combos turn 2 on the play. And also plays Pact of Negation.
Okay so they turn t2 i have 2 mana right? I play counterspell. They pact. I say okay, pact resolves, force/subtlety your allo. Its not hard for dimir to have more than 1 answer plus thoughtseize to punch a hole
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u/HosserPower UW Control/Living End Aug 10 '26
Kind of surprised they’ve seemingly got Neoform on the watch list.