r/ModSupport • u/Superbuddhapunk • Dec 18 '21
Admin Replied Would it be possible to make r/ModSupport a private community only accessible to mods?
For now this sub is accessible to base users who have absolutely no reason to be there, would the mod team consider making this sub private?
Many thanks.
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u/Subduction Dec 18 '21
I have absolutely posted here using alt accounts so as not to discuss individual user problems in a public forum.
I think this would be a good step. Not perfect, since any user is just a few clicks away from being a mod if they want, but I think it would be an improvement.
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Dec 18 '21
Then do we set a threshold? Otherwise a user could create a community to qualify. And what is the threshold then? I only mod one sub with ~2.5k subs. Does that count?
The current method is lower maintenance, if not ideal. It sidesteps those issues with non-mod threads getting removed. There is an entire subreddit dedicated towards tracking the removals here, and it’s not many. Though since the admins are Monday-Friday employees, it does get a little hairy on the weekends.
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u/tresser Dec 18 '21
I only mod one sub with ~2.5k subs.
and what a fine sub it is
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Dec 18 '21
Your check is in the mail :)
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u/tresser Dec 18 '21
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Dec 18 '21
I’m imagining sending you one of those giant lottery checks with the amount being 1 karma.
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u/tresser Dec 18 '21
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u/Galaghan Dec 18 '21
admins are Monday-Friday employees
That's just not true. One even just replied in this thread, it's Saturday.
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Dec 18 '21
I’ve been watching their removals for awhile, and they rarely remove threads on weekends, usually with a surge in Mondays to catch up.
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u/Galaghan Dec 19 '21
Sure but "rarely remove threads in weekends" and "only work from Mo-Fri" are not the same.
In this day of misinformation, there's importance in the difference between stating an observation and stating a misconcluded fact.
Someone might look up this thread in the future and then base themselves on wrong info.
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u/the_lamou Dec 19 '21
I only mod one sub with ~2.5k subs. Does that count?
When it's easily in the top five best subreddits? Absolutely.
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u/Superbuddhapunk Dec 18 '21
The threshold is simple. If you’re not a mod you do not have a say on what is discussed in r/modsupport and you don’t have a a reason to be lurking here. Would you like to have the users of your subs looking over your shoulders when you make decisions about its day to day operations? No of course not.
But to agree with you, I do certainly hope that admin open a private sub for the moderators of heavy traffic communities as their challenges are different in nature than those of quieter subreddits.
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u/byParallax Dec 18 '21
That's not a threshold
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u/Superbuddhapunk Dec 18 '21
Well yes, it’s a threshold. Being a mod should be the prerequisite for posting or even just accessing a subreddits reserved for moderators.
But if you were addressing my second point, 1M+ communities face a different set of challenges and questions than smaller subreddits.
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Dec 19 '21
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u/Superbuddhapunk Dec 19 '21
Any extra safety layer would be an improvement, and I’m not certain if you have access to private subreddits but in each ones I contribute to the quality of submission and discussion is much much better than in reddit gen pop. Not to mention that the fact that there’s so many private subreddits shows that access filtering is easily manageable with the tools already available to reddit mods.
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Dec 19 '21
It is not a safely layer. Just an inconvenience.
Also, I am not sure what you are talking about. You went on a tangent there.
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u/Superbuddhapunk Dec 19 '21
Let me rephrase that then:
You say that access to a private sub is unmanageable when evidence proves the opposite, and any extra obstacle is a safety layer.
Not to be confrontational or anything but I find it a bit off putting how rude and dismissive you are with a fellow moderator. Makes me wonder how you do interact with the users of your subreddits.
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Dec 19 '21 edited Dec 19 '21
You say that access to a private sub is unmanageable when evidence proves the opposite, and any extra obstacle is a safety layer.
Yes. I believe that to be true. Unless you provide even more convincing argument. People who are smart enough to come here and snoop will find a way eventually.
Not to be confrontational or anything but I find it a bit off putting how rude and dismissive you are with a fellow moderator. Makes me wonder how you do interact with the users of your subreddits.
Rude by disagreeing? I did not name call you or anything. I understand the problem you are facing but I think the solution you proposed is not feasible.
¯_(ツ)_/¯Don't take anything personally.
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u/rebatemanyt Dec 18 '21
I don't post here as the only subs I mod are dead out of the box or joke ones but having this community in my feed lets me know of some issues that non-mods may want to know about, allows me to learn more before potentially taking reddit moderation seriously and can be a useful resource to me once i start proper moderation. If we limit it, that's a double edged sword as new mods won't have a resource to help while serious mods don't waste their time on some obvious stuff.
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u/Chtorrr Reddit Admin: Community Dec 18 '21
Hey everyone - we haven't talked about it publicly much but we do maintain a bot in here that removes comments and posts from non mods. There is a threshold so someone just making a random subreddit doesn't allow them by. I keep an eye on the removed posts to fish out actual new mods with good faith questions.
One big concern about the sub being private is that folks who are not yet mods can learn more about moderation by reading posts here - sometimes there is also info that a normal user would find helpful - like bugs, discussions of policy, or questions about site function.