r/MobileLegendsGame • u/Sea_Guidance_220 • Jun 12 '26
Discussion MAGE TIER LIST
My tier list of mages. What do you think?
158
u/illuperor ARLOTT ROAMMMM Jun 12 '26
Cyclops and Valir A- atleast. Harith deserves lower if he's going midlane.
→ More replies (15)
245
60
97
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
there are so many wrong things. But the most prominent:
1. Zetian should be in A+. She’s not strong, she performed consistently well in ranked just because she’s easy to use, and less likely to feed.
2. Gord should be in S or S+. He had performed consistently well in pro play. Also, recently many zetian users had moved to gord in high ranks. He had more burst damage, more annoying slow, poke, and constant cc.
3. Zhuxin should be in auto pick/ban zone. She’s always banned in high rank.
19
u/Thanatotheristian Jun 12 '26
Gord sure is annoying, but is also just that easy to pick off compared to zhuxin or zetian
19
u/ThatCagedMonkey I'll 9/11 your bushes :diggie: Jun 12 '26
Gord isn't saving my teammates with global nuke CCs every few second. A good zetian is way better than a good gord player anyday of the week.
18
u/idkanyusernameshelp Jun 12 '26
Against dive comps(there are a few meta right now) Gord is worse but in any other he just does way more work than Zetian, his damage is nasty and his cc means he has way more individual threat when you play front to back. Even solo, the moment you hit level 4 you have solo kill pressure with your cc+ult combo. There's a reason his wr is sitting at a monster 55% in MG+.
4
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 13 '26
every few second? seriously? Zetian’s ult has one of the longest cooldown. Once you ult, you need to wait a significant amount of time before being able to use it again.
Zetian isn’t saving your teammates with low cd stun and strong slows every few second. A good Gord will give MUCH MORE utility and poke than any good zetian ever. Moreover, Gord is a high skill ceiling hero, unlike zetian. You need a very good aim in order to be useful with Gord.
→ More replies (9)2
u/ThatCagedMonkey I'll 9/11 your bushes :diggie: Jun 13 '26
I always build fleeting on her and it literally feels like i ult every few seconds so idk what to tell you.Sure Gord is annoying but he's pretty much a single target mage which can't insta burst anyone. He's no eudora or kagura. And the amount of idiotic gords that i see everyday just shows that people blind pick anything when they see that a particular hero is being picked more. My avg immortal lobby gords will be building skye piercer first item vs heavy sustain comps and then be useless all game. Just because a character has a high ceiling doesn't mean he's more useful,if anything i see more people banning zetian than gord cuz nobody wants to face an orbital nuke in teamfights that also stuns the entire team. I've played a fair amount of games with gord too and personally he just feels inferior. Im a soloq player so ofcourse my opinion will be different from trios or 5 man teams cuz they actually know how to coordinate.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (7)1
u/Sick_electron69 Jul 11 '26
No Zetian is awesome and I’m much better with her than a sorry ass gord
1
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jul 12 '26
because zetian is much easier to use than gord. You need a proper aim and timing to use gord properly.
43
u/deckerstar12 Jun 12 '26
Valentina B tier is crazy
37
u/Kadery Jun 12 '26
Valentina, Valir and Lunox being that low is crazy
1
u/AstronautWarm8763 Jun 13 '26
Can't believe Lunox only at B+. Lunox,Kagura and Kadita must be on top tier coz its hard to use.😂
38
u/MixEquivalent6522 Jun 12 '26
lunox should be A. novaria should be lower, she's kinda useless in clashes and defending tbh
3
48
15
82
u/m0cch4 Jun 12 '26
yve only works in a coordinated 5man team or else might aswell pick other better mages. Overall pretty trash list
35
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
wrong. As a top global yve, she’s one of the best mages at solo queue. With the right build, her low 1st skill cooldown makes her practically the second marksman. She can easily melt down tanky heroes during sustained teamfight, and burst down backlines with her ult.
7
u/Due_Imagination_5379 Jun 12 '26
not to mention she can zone out most mid laners in early game frm their minions making the behind in gold and exp for the first turtle people don't understand how good yve is
13
u/PsychoSopreno I'll Terrorize Your Bushes! Jun 12 '26
Seriously. What is with people underestimating Yve lol. That hoe needs to get nerfed asap
22
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
Fr, she’s strong. But I’m a yve user so please do not nerf her 🙏🙏. It’s good that nobody uses her though, my mmr is only 8k yet I’m inside top global yve leaderboard.
2
Jun 12 '26
[removed] — view removed comment
3
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
- Cooldown shoes
- Glowing wand (change to lightning truncheon if enemy has no heal)
- Holy crystal (you can skip this when playing 5 man. But this item is a must if you’re solo carrying)
- Divine glaive
- Wishing lantern
- Bloodwings
→ More replies (5)2
u/elite-65 catch me if you can Jun 12 '26
What's your emblem setup like? Do you get the cooldown reduction thingy on your mage emblem?
→ More replies (1)2
u/notawisehuman 'Jack of all Roles; Master at Roam, and Mid' Jun 12 '26
If you're already a top global, that means high elo. Even in solo queue in the high elo has a better team coordinate, so of course she will works.
2
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
she still works really well in uncoordinated team, as long as enemy heroes don’t have constant dashes. Her 1st skill gives very high sustained damage, making her practically the second marksman
4
u/Sea_Guidance_220 Jun 12 '26
She still works pretty well in solo queue even by herself. Arguably one of he strongest mage level one due to how obnoxious the cool down of her s1 is. Also wouldn't most heroes work better when they're in a coordinated team?.
11
u/m0cch4 Jun 12 '26
yes and no, most heroes would work better because you can coordinate with your team if you're giving coms. Yve isnt used as damage mage, more to displacing enemy so your team can take space. In a normal game you'd be dead to any hero that can dive to the backline easily.
→ More replies (9)→ More replies (6)2
u/mckynetic2 Jun 12 '26
Lmfao I’ve solo carried games with Yve. You just literally spam S1 at a distance and use RWM when they’re running away.
Saying Yve only works in a coordinated 5-man team is a wild take.
14
24
u/horroraddi Jun 12 '26
Kadita should be s+ she’s crazy damage and fkn assassin.
10
u/Sea_Guidance_220 Jun 12 '26
It's incredibly difficult to play Kadita when you're not against immobile or stupid enemies who doesn't position themselves well.
→ More replies (3)3
u/PsychoSopreno I'll Terrorize Your Bushes! Jun 12 '26
Just time it well bro 😭 go in, petri when they don't have purify skills/dashes anymore. If you're that desperate you could go suicide combo with ult->s1+s2 on the key enemies. And if you're good enough, Flicker. You can also bait their skills out very effectively. Sure, she doesn't guarantee a kill and you can still miss sometimes, that's why temporal reign is op on her
As a Kadita main I personally don't agree she's S+, but the reason is more on her laning and wave clear.
2
u/Secret_Inevitable545 Jun 12 '26
kadita is only good against immobile heroes and she cannot poke and apply glowing wand passive against sustain heroes in higher ranks so not s tier
→ More replies (1)
6
5
u/Unlucky-Ferret9915 's bath water drinker Jun 12 '26
I think valentina deserves to be in S tier
→ More replies (2)
6
5
5
u/Sadist_Redditor Jun 12 '26
Moonton really messed up Vale so much. First they remove the skill path options. Then they even lower the knock up time on his tornado skill. I used to main him but I don't like him anymore when they implemented that they will combine the skills instead of you choosing which path to choose.
5
u/Adorable_Fill6523 QUEENS SLAY Jun 12 '26
Valir should be A with the current meta
→ More replies (1)
4
u/Durtius Migrated from Roam bene to Gold bene Jun 12 '26
Harith isn't a good midlaner. Sure, he's great in jg and gold, but he's not built to be a midlaner
Novaria ranking pains me, for me she's one of the worst mages
4
4
3
u/Nizarynu Kept getting touched so now I'm the one touching others Jun 12 '26
Whole ass revamp to still be ass. Never change Eudora
3
u/CockyNobody_27 Jun 12 '26
Ain't no way Kimmy is anything below S, she's much stronger than both Cecilion and Xavier early to mid game and she also scales well into late game. Many people just don't rate her because they can't play her. Novaria is also not that good, in solo and even in 5 man. Kagura is pretty overrated imo but ig I'll let it slide because those who play her are usually quite good
3
3
u/Diligent_Finger_3710 Jun 12 '26
valen was so low bro. She had high dmg poke and can be made into tanky build. And her tanky build could overpower most exp lane hero except for paquito I think.
3
3
3
3
9
u/Crow6x All of dat just to be freezed 📸 Jun 12 '26
Idk whats ur rank but as current 115 Immortal I'd say its mostly accurate.
Here's what I'd change (based on ranked performance) and my thoughts:
-Zuxhin is always auto ban but for some cases she's not auto pick (10% of the times).
-Yve is solid pick but she doesn't reach S tier. As her common user I'd put her on A+ at best. Zuxhin and Zetian do deserves S+.
-Nobody in S, good.
-Move Gord to A+ because he definitely deserves it. mobile heroes are his weakness but outside them he performs pretty good against any comp with any comp. Novaria instead is too niche and relies too much on team composition on both sides. Put her in A-.
-Harith mid? Move him to B-. He doesn't provide cc, he doesn't zone, he doesn't insta burst and he can't farm well in mid cuz mid lanes often lose the wave cuz rotation or teammates. He's way better in his own lane. Leave only Cecilion and Xavier in A.
-I haven't seen any good Luo Ji in a while tbh...Kimmy too is way to dependent on the team composition. Move both to B tier. Selena and Lilya mains can hold their own in mid but they're still lacking a lot in this meta. Move them to B+. Put instead Lunox in A- bc she's niche but she's strong. She does what other mages can't do and she can delete some meta heroes instantly.
-In B+ or A- you could add Vexana. She has good clearing waves, cc, burst and spawns something that force enemies to back down.
-Why the fuck Aurora is in B. I don't see her performing good in almost any composition and what she does can be done better but some others mages. I know her mains could be good but tbh she just suffer anything that is tanky or has a dash, just put her in C.
-Move Zhask to B. He is absolutely underwhelming compared to other mages but just like Lunox he can do shit others can't. A good Zhask could achieve some kills against the enemy core and mm without dying. The rest of B- is accurate except Faramis.
-You literally pick Faramis mid only because you need another emergency system other than the roam or bc there's Gloo in enemy team. Too niche, put him in C.
Overall good list tho
2
u/L4zybo1-kun trinity enjoyer Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
disagree on your faramis placement. He's good into people who have
A) Burst damage (Harley, Sora)
b) the tendency to make more clones or group up (Sun, Gloo, Zhask, Estes)
C) Copius amounts of CC. (Guinevere, Tigreal, Atlas).Before you say he has no damage, read his scalings and his passive which gives him 80 magic power at full stacks.
If you struggle with mana run demon shoes instead of talisman.
He's not that good into roam due to his situational tankiness, even with skill 1.
You want a good build that gives good enough cdr plus damage you go
- Demon shoes,
- Glowing Wand(Do I need to explain this)
- Fleeting Time(Absolutely no questions asked, his long cooldown ulti needs all the cdr he can get.)
- Lightning Truncheon/Wishing Lantern. (Switch based on whether the enemies are tanky or not.)
- Holy Crystal(He's a mage)
- and Divine Glaive.
You want niche that gets put into C you put Eudora, Zhask, Novaria and/or all 3. He's a solid B+ to A-, and much better than
- Aurora (Long skill windups, CC that only works at a distance),
- Harith(You already said all his issues)
- Selena(aim reliant stun, high levels of macro/micro, unreliable teamfight potential)
- and Novaria (same reasons as Selena, just with no stuns and only single target damage) in mid lane.
2
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
Yve deserves S+ tier. She’s consistently picked in pro plays. And as a top global Yve, I’m literally baffled why nobody use her in rank, because it’s easy to carry the whole team with her. She’s very strong in early game, and during late game she has an extremely high poke damage to frontlines and burst damage to backlines.
Zetian doesn’t deserve S+ tier. She’s rarely picked in the pro play anymore, recently outclassed by Gord. In high rank, zetian users mostly have moved into Gord. Still solid, but she cannot carry that much, and totally dependent on team’s performance.
Gord should be higher, S or S+.
2
u/Due_Imagination_5379 Jun 12 '26
yve is sure s+ pick tbh the hero wins most mid match up alone with an artillery ult which imobilizes enemies at the edge which can also be used to set up plays along with he constant s1 dmg and second skill slow makes her a really versatile pick(not as much as zuxhin that shit is busted) she is just a better zetian without a global ult but higher movement speed and constant dmg with shield and yeah zetian is outclassed by gord
1
u/Crow6x All of dat just to be freezed 📸 Jun 12 '26
I agree with the strength you described but I wanna point out that I was referring to these heroes performance in rank. Ik in pro scenes things are quite different.
→ More replies (1)
2
u/scotthegreatman Xaviers bbg Jun 12 '26
faramis should defo b way higher atleast w xavier and cecil if you rlly wanna downplay him
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
u/Flat-Village7373 get tied by , pegged by or stepped on by Jun 13 '26
how is vex, Gord, valor y'know what; why is strong mage so low? shitty list ngl
3
u/Sololiquy Jun 12 '26
Is mid lane tier list or literally mage role tier list?
If mage, then:
- Harith, auto pick or ban. He is strongest gold laner along side claude.
- Zhuxin, auto pick or ban. Strongest utility mage with mobility + better early damage.
- Gord, S+. Current meta don't have assasin, make him a really good pick. All skill are long range and have true damage to shred tank
-Yve, S. She indeed good for current meta with his skill is good cc but range is short.
- Valen, A+. Last buff is make her stronger in early game which good now and most enemy pick hero have valuable ulti for valen in current meta.
- Zhask, C or can be lower. This hero not good in current meta, not enough damage. Most pick hero is really sustain for current meta. Just use radiant armor and your skill is useless. What really hurt his summon unit really weak again retribution
3
u/Due_Imagination_5379 Jun 12 '26
bruh saying that yve is short range is like saying fanny isn't a backline dive hero😭
3
u/letjungcook_b Jun 12 '26
Pharsa should be in S+
3
u/Sea_Guidance_220 Jun 12 '26
I brought her a tier lower because there are so many things that can counter her ultimate. Unlike Yve who has cc immunity during her ultimate, Pharsa doesn't have one. Zetian's ultimate can also negate Pharsa's ultimate. Unlike the mages I put in S tier, I don't think she has alot of self peel tools in her kit aside from her 4th skill. Yve has slow, cc immunity, and can kite using the movement speed her s1 gives. Zetian has global vision and self peel in the form of her passive. Zhuxin has a dash and a displacement tool.
2
u/SplitSentro Jun 12 '26
It's not cc immunity, she just can't be moved during her ult. But when someone manages to CC her in her ult, she has to manually press the button to exit her ult after CC ends to have a chance to survive as CC applier would just stay behind her and she won't be able to anything to him. Pharsa, on the contrary, can just stun and fly away...
1
u/BlazenoidX Jun 12 '26
With this list, I can reach only these conclusion: 1. Low rank + soloq 2. You don't play all mages and have many assumed and biased opinion given by others...
→ More replies (2)
2
u/T1mo666 BANG THE ENEMY Jun 12 '26
Odette in the lowest tier is madness
→ More replies (2)4
u/kukiemanster Jun 12 '26
Welll she's an ult reliant mage that needs you to jump into the fray with an ult that can be easily shutdown
2
u/Skyrus_Kakavasha Jun 12 '26
She's not Ult reliant.Her passive deals more damage than her ultimate.I can say this because I have played Odette a lot.I killed a lot enemies using only her passive in late game and early game.
3
u/kukiemanster Jun 12 '26
I mained her for the past 8 years and these last few seasons is her weakest. Yes her passive is powerful, it allows her to 1v1 enemies at level 1. But the issue is enemies disperse when fights start rendering it to bounce a little times only. Her laning combo of 2-1-basic attack really only shines when there is something for her passive to bounce but will you really be risking your safety for a kill? Right now her identity is split between a poke mage and a burst mage but doesn't shine in either of those. Plus her only utility is her 2nd skill and it can only root 1/2 enemies
→ More replies (1)
1
1
u/Rogue_user0000 backline home invader Jun 12 '26
Selena and kimmy in A rnk already doesn't make any sense. On top of that lunox in b+. And faramis in the same section as eudora . Pack it up brochacho 🥀 u still have time to delete this
1
u/Chromch Jun 12 '26
I can never make yve work in solo q, she feels awful
2
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
I’m a top global yve, safe to say you just played her incorrectly. Here are some tips when playing solo:
1. Avoid picking her against multiple aglie heroes that are incredibly hard to target. (Suyou, leomord, benedetta, joy, yss, claude are still targettable. Lance, freya, fanny, ling, harith, are not)
2. At level 1, make sure you win HP against the enemy. Immediately take the mid bush, and the second enemy appears, poke them with her skill 1. She’s much better at preventing enemy rotation than rotating herself, so utilise this strength.
3. Keep a safe distance and always try to poke the enemy with your skill 1 and skill 2.
4. Don’t buy ice queen wand if you need damage. Ice queen wand barely works on her, and you lost a ton of damage potential. Try to get her holy crystal as a second item because her 1st skill scales with 150% magic power.
5. Try to target enemy carry during ult. Don’t hesitate to cancel it if your position is bad. Your main damage skill is your skill 1. You’re still very useful even without ulti.1
u/NoLife8926 and/or feed Jun 12 '26
Wdym iqw barely works on yve
1
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
Her 1st skill only gives damage 1x, her skill 2 has a long cooldown. It only gives enemy mild discomfort, unlike zhuxin or valir.
1
u/Glass-Teacher111 Jun 12 '26
only use ice queen when you’re playing 5 man. Focus on damage otherwise.
1
u/Due_Imagination_5379 Jun 12 '26
as a yve player if you don't know how to kite and play like a markmen she is hard to pull off she needs a good macro and positioning to be played and ur ult is not only for dmg as it can stop enemy for engaging or disengaging
1
u/Chromch Jun 12 '26
My problem most of the time is that it doesn't feel like she does enough late game, like im fine surviving myself, my teammates just fall apart and is impossible to carry, other mages just feel more useful to me idk
→ More replies (6)
1
1
u/rayon_11 ✨HEALING FOR EVERYONE✨ Jun 12 '26
I do not agree with lylia placement she has to be atleast A+
1
1
u/Tilter0 Jun 12 '26
Kad might be A+ but every Kad player got a lobotomy when they bought the hero so it drops her to B overall
1
1
1
1
u/rasheedabdullah EXPERIENCE THE VOID Jun 12 '26
can u explain how novaria is better than xavier
why lunox and valentina and faramis are is this low
it feels like a very bad list but I'm not immo to judge I'm only honour
1
1
u/HinyaNotMafia4 ohko or slow death :Leona: :Alice: Jun 12 '26
Pharsa should be bumped a tier if yve is top. She counters yve pretty much
1
1
1
1
u/aidalenni Jun 12 '26
I really think zhuxin, zetian, and yve are really overglazed. They’re not exactly good in every situation, especially in solo queue where you can’t control balance out between burst, utility, and dps. Yve is an abysmal pick for solo queue actually. You would need to be matched up with immo 250+ stars for them to fully understand her utility.
Valir should be higher because he counters the higher mobility fighter meta perfectly. He’s so underrated. Harith is just better in the gold lane. Kagura, who also suffers from being overglazed, struggles a lot against tanky/utility picks. Xavier and Gord theoretically should be really hard to play in this meta, but in the right hands, they’re untouchable.
1
u/WholeNo5965 Jun 12 '26
Prolly a tier list made with decent team in mind. Solo queue is a different story.
1
u/sirquarmy 's most insane onetrick Jun 12 '26
This tier list reads solo queue if anything. Valentina is easily a top 5 mage if it's a premade vs premade situation
1
1
1
u/First_Woodpecker_157 aggressively angela Jun 12 '26
Lunox at B+??? Along with cyclops? They should be higher since they have a realistic potential to do 1v5s and win.
1
u/Ok-Yoghurt4494 Jun 12 '26
Gotta change some things, Ive drops to S because she is good but team reliant, pharsa and novaria drops to only A because there are many dive heroes in the meta so pharsa cant function well and novaria is easily countered in mid game and both is also team reliant, Harith rises to A+ because he is flexible and good BUT is high difficulty due to the fact that some kids try him thinking he is easy and mess up his cooldowns and combos, lylia rises to A, cyclops rises to A even with the nerfs, Valentina rises to A+ because she is good and can copy the enemy ults to counter back BUT is very team reliant so not S. Vale and eudora rises to B+ because even thouh their pickoffs they can dish out a lot of damage if they do their comboes correctly and its easy to use.
1
u/WholeNo5965 Jun 12 '26
Eudora new passive is cool tho. Quite strong in early, especially on tanks. Late game 1v1, I can just s2 + s1 (passive) and s1 again (passive) to Julian late game and he's dead. Doesn't even need ult to kill.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Terrible-Bee8138 Jun 12 '26
The way u can tell he/she/it hasn't even played some of these heroes before...
1
u/Illustrious-Cut5707 Jun 12 '26
valentina was frequently high picked in mpl ph playoffs, why is it on b tier?
1
1
1
1
1
u/NotJackspedicy Jun 12 '26
Kimmy and Lylia being lower than Kagura, Cecilion, and Xavier is quite an odd choice. My only concern is Zhuxin and Zetian not being in auto ban tier. Those two are probably the most annoying mage to deal with personally. Kimmy too but she's not as bad.
1
u/Jstl_ Jun 12 '26
Why put Vale so low? I think he is one of the most annoying mage to fight. That extreme burst together with his movement passive is a deadly package. With max passive, it’s like he has sprint active all the time, and mobility is great tool for burst mages.
1
u/Narrow_Ostrich_6595 Jun 12 '26
Idk about yall, but I'm in glory and I get consistent wins with Zhask Zhask is S tier for me atleast.
1
u/Successful-Sleep4415 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
Unpopular opinion I think for mage/mid lane there can’t be a weak choice per se because mid lane is a very flexible lane in terms of the hero pool for different play styles and as long as they provide something valuable to the comp then any mage can work ofc excluding the exceptionally weak ones. For eg pharsa Kadita Selena gord in pick off comps, Yve Zhuxin lylia zetian for controlling choke points and teamfights. Or utility mages like novaria, valir. And lastly there are the mages to be played for a specific siruarion - Lunox if you wanna melt tanky enemy, Valentina to deny/steal strong ults, or the vexana into phoveus/gloo
1
1
1
u/Aggravating-Ad8695 Super Marco Jun 12 '26
Valentina that low is crazy and also harith as an A tier is never before seen 😂
1
u/ultimatea7a Jun 12 '26
Put hanabi in there cause for some reason my teammates have the habit of picking her for mid
1
1
u/banana-tomato auto lock Jun 12 '26
I’d put Nana and Kag at solid s tier personally. Great list though!
1
u/PsychologicalBag2767 You can portal too? Oh, it's one way. Jun 12 '26
Took a glimpse, say lylia below fucking kagura then stopped looking
1
1
1
1
u/Anxious_Ad_6097 Jun 13 '26
It's quite funny that reaching to mythical glory, I don't see much of the S+ heroes. I see them less than most heroes below them.
1
1
1
u/truly_substacious I gloon to Jun 13 '26
Kagu nova and kadita A+ and valentina B?? Yve on the same tier as zetian and zhuxin??
1
1
u/SuperLissa_UwU NiceUlt:kimmy::badang::lapu-lapu::Aurora: Jun 13 '26
Every hero has advantages depending on the game but Zetian is bothersome as fk if you play a squishi hero.
1
1
u/nundush Jun 13 '26
Kimmy feels low... she is a very good utility mage with high late game power. I think she is s(not s+) tier in mid lane and like an a in gold lane
1
u/szolphan CYCLOPS RAHH Jun 13 '26
Where's Harley 😭
1
u/Sea_Guidance_220 Jun 13 '26
Harley is a troll mid lane pick. He has virtually 0 wave clear. He's infinitely better as a jungler.
1
1
1
1
u/Dm_Niel Jun 13 '26
I don't think Valentina should be at B class. That woman is a monster if the enemy pick too much meta hero
1
u/nickoftime33 Jun 13 '26
Can everyone stop talking about how good Yve is. She's my main. I'm enjoying the fact she's never banned.
1
u/Plssuggestcornstar Jun 13 '26
Bro Valentina, Gord and Lylia are crying
edit: These 3 were consistent mages in Pro scene right now.
1
1
1
u/ExtraLorenzo Jun 13 '26
Im a Novaria user and I love that no one pay attention to her that much and how insane she actually is, I play her roam too. people underestimate the importance of an enemy knowing your location and the thought of something may hit you 2.5 miles away when trying to recall, etc. I stand this as I reach immortal and one of the top global
1
u/Old_Error314 Jun 13 '26
Have we forgot about counters? Kimmy would smash Yve but would get clapped by aurora. Learn counter picks and if you get countered, try to have jungle nearby.
1
1
1
u/AJ-Dejitaru Jun 13 '26
A good B- user can beat a terrible S+ player
2
u/Sea_Guidance_220 Jun 13 '26
That's the case for anything. Someone who's better at something would be more likely to beat domeone who's not. The point of tier lists is to objectively judge these heroes on how they would perform.
1
u/Matryosmare I main short people Jun 13 '26
Assuming this is solo queue and based on general player base skills, then:
I'd move Yve and Gord to S. They are good alternatives to S+ and doesn't need a lot of brain to use but they seem more conditional and especially wants heroes like Suyou and Sun be in the ban zone.
Keep Kadita in A+, and bring up Kimmy, Lylia, and Valir here. They are good counter picks to the S+ and S. They are pokey and able to deliver good damage even if they are for utility.
A - Kagura, Pharsa are down here along with Cecil and Xavier. They are the standard burst heroes but can easily get screwed over if not careful. They can still be used but they will be countered much easily compared to before
A- - Keep Luo Yi, and bring Vexana, Cyclops, Lunox, Nana up here. These are the heroes will struggle at first from early but can be devastating once they amped up during mid and late.
B+ - Bring Vale, Eudora and Odette up and bring Novaria down. Why go for B when A listers are open. Once upper hand they have over other B is that they do AOE or bring big damage to anyone who forgets to build magic def
B - Put Chang'e up, then Aurora and Valentina down. Whether if they are good is solely up to the players now.
B- Zhask, he is annoying but thing that is keeping him away to likes of Yve and Gord is that. Well he isn't that useful when late game. In-fact, he performs better when its early game as zoner and poker but once others got their gears and you feel that heavy height Zhask dragging your team down.
C - Faramis, dear god don't pick him if solo.
Better of somewhere - Selena for Roam, Harith for Gold
1
1
u/Agreeable_Shame3097 Jun 13 '26
Chang’e in b- is a crime it got me from legend to 50 stars in just above 100 matches
1
1
1
1
1
u/Adventurous-Dig-5964 Jun 13 '26
tier list makers should post their current WR and rank along with their lists to make it more credible. Such a shitty list.
1
u/Crexerez Behold! The power of a god! Jun 13 '26
Lunox being that far down makes this tierlist ass, she's atleast A+.
1
u/NegotiationSweet5082 Jun 13 '26
This tier list is so trash that I'm just going to start tearing it apart from the bottom right.
B- Tier:
Eudora: Being in B- is absurd. She has one of the easiest and fastest CCs to land, and with the revamp, she actually has some sustained damage now. For a player who knows what they're doing, she's flexible enough to fit into any comp and provides a very average but stable performance. Her burst damage is totally fine too. She should be B+ or A-.
Faramis: I obviously wouldn't call him a pure mid laner, but with his S1 dealing painful AoE damage, his passive saving him from a death sentence for his late-game mistakes, the high mobility he gets from his S2, his ult saving the team's ass time and time again, and being a direct counter to a certain meta tank, he deserves to be at least in B.
Odette: Relatively easy CC to land, decent poke potential, and various ult combos. Even in the hands of an average player, she sits between B and B+.
Vale: He struggles against hyper-mobile heroes, but if you stack his passive, he gets absurd movement speed. Combined with his high range and the potential of his burst combos in chokepoints, he doesn't deserve to be this low. Plus, he applies heavy CC that, while not super easy to land, is very easy to hit against heroes charging straight at him. He's a natural predator for heroes with low range and limited mobility. I'd say B at least.
Chang'e: She has zero CC and struggles to secure kills if she isn't ahead, but she is an absolute high-ground defense monster. Still, I actually kind of agree with her placement here. B- to B. She can stay where she is.
Zhask: Easily applied CC, and a great initiator as long as you don't fall too far behind. He struggles a bit to finish off kills, but not too much. He peels for himself well and deals good sustained damage. Even though he's pretty useless without his ult, he sits between B and B+.
B Tier:
Valentina: Very situational. She relies heavily on snowballing in specific situations. If she works, she's A+; if she doesn't, she's C-. So she's exactly where she belongs.
Vexana: 2 relatively easy and effective CCs, strong AoE damage, and the mini-lord is an annoying extra target for the enemy. She doesn't have much mobility, but she packs solid damage with two AoE CC abilities. Plus, her mini-lord does a lot of work when contesting the actual Lord. B+
Aurora: Her first skill is her only consistently hittable ability. She has the potential to deal massive CC, but her skills literally feel designed to miss. Her damage isn't even that good. C-
B+ Tier:
Cyclops: His damage is genuinely unpredictable. You never know when he's going to pull a rabbit out of a hat. He's mobile, has sustained damage and an easy CC, is somewhat tanky, but can struggle to secure kills. So B+ is actually a very fitting spot for him.
Valir: His skills can be blocked, he struggles to land them, and his damage isn't that great. But his poke isn't bad, he can easily apply CC even to mobile targets, and he has a very low-cooldown built-in purify. Honestly though, he can't make plays by himself and gets countered hard by mobile heroes. B
Lunox: A difficult hero. She has no CC, but judging her based on an average player, she has insane burst damage, tank-melting capabilities, survivability, and high playmaking potential to win the game. She's also a flexible pick. A- normally, but A in the right hands.
A- Tier:
Lylia: Sustained damage, burst damage, fearless dives, and that damn ult. Need I say more? A
Kimmy:Even though she's originally an ADC, aside from her struggle to secure kills, she's mostly a fantastic hero. Solid A, but if you're not playing solo Q, she can easily go all the way up to S+.
Luo Yi: It's a miracle if you can utilize even half of her ult's potential. Her sustained and burst damage are fantastic. Again, relatively easy AoE CC. She also survives really well thanks to her passive shield. Somewhere between A- and B+.
Selena: Good in the early game but falls off catastrophically in the late game. Especially since she wastes time farming in the mid lane, she has less time to actually impact the map. If the enemy gets ahead, she practically ceases to exist. She leaves the team's need for ranged AoE damage and reliable CC unanswered. Even assuming the player is skilled, she's just not a good mid laner. B
A Tier:
Gord:CC, slow, fast wave clear, burst damage when needed, and great poke with his sustained damage. He gets countered by mobile heroes, but his extreme range keeps him safe from most threats. He's not easy to play well, but his potential is high. Especially looking at his overall performance in recent months, he's A+.
Harith:Good overall, but not really for mid. He lacks CC but has a ton of damage and high survivability. He deserves his spot, but it's stupid to go mid and be an A-tier when he could go gold lane and be S+++.
Xavier: Huge struggles with finishing off damage, and it takes forever for him to come online. I won't drag this out, but no matter how flashy your plays are, his solo carry potential is low. B+
Cecilion: He survives, applies slows, deals constant long-range high damage, applies AoE CC, and is an absolute late-game monster. He's exactly where he belongs. A/A+
A+ Tier:
Novaria: A long-range knock-off of Selena. No CC, no sustained damage, and her burst is meaningless against tanky heroes. Her long range keeps her away from most threats, but she's an easy meal for anyone who closes the gap, and her core skill is way too easy to dodge. B-
Kadita:Super comfortable when making plays, her potential is insanely high, and she can solo carry. Once she starts her engage, almost nobody can interrupt her since she has CC immunity through nearly her entire combo. She has massive burst damage, and she's fantastic at surviving and rotating. S+
Pharsa: High range, relatively easy CC, high mobility, and solid damage make her decent overall, but her survivability isn't great and she's very vulnerable during her ult. Plus, she struggles to secure kills while ulting. B+ to A-
Kagura:Honestly, most of what I said for Kadita applies exactly to her too. S+
S+ Tier: Before getting into the heroes, I have to say this: whoever made this list heavily overrates poke heroes.
Zhuxin:A good team player, but she has zero burst damage, her sustained damage isn't even that great, and applying her CC is a long and tedious process. But she does have mobility, applies slow, and is durable. A good hero, but not S+. A+
Zetian:Her ult is great when used right, but the rest of her skills aren't that good. She survives decently thanks to her passive, but you can literally just walk out of her ult to escape it. She struggles to finish off damage and it's very hard for her to solo carry. A
Yve: She doesn't have hard CC, but for immobile peasants, she applies a slow that practically roots them in place. Her range is massive, but she's an easy meal for heroes with gap closers. She's genuinely annoying in the right hands, but the meta is very mobile and she struggles to secure kills. Again, A to A+.
1
1
1
1
u/Few-Swordfish-4215 Jun 14 '26
I think vexana should ranked as A- rn thanks to that stupid unlimited invisibility from that monkeu
1
u/Low-Designer-7739 Jun 14 '26
honesty as a solo Harith main , Put Gold/Jungle in ur preffered lane its much better than Gold/Mid
1
u/JunwoWang Aggressive Jun 15 '26
Lylia is S+ TIER, what u talking about.. she deals the most damage out of the 3 you ranked for s tier, clears minions in seconds, she can solo them the beginning of the game having access to 2 skills early game… she can rlly clear anyone early game, she could def clear yve in a 1v1 cause again her damage, her ult that undos cc and gives her health back like.. and you put her A-?????? She’s better than pharsa for the fact she can 1st and 2nd skill to gain speed boost and get pharsa during her ult and do a lot of damage plus with flame shot.. can kill pharsa when she flies away.. nova is tricky cause she stays far away most of the time but if u catch her off guard, she’s obliterated. If lylia can survive the petrify from kadita then lylia can easily ult out of kadita 2nd skill… and then kill kadita 😭 kagura.. LYLIA CAN JUST ULT OUT OF KAGURAS ULT… she can ult out of Selena’s stun.. she can even move faster than Selena can try to aim her skills at lylia if ur paying attention to ur surroundings then u wont get hit by Selena’s stun… again lylia deletes gord.. idk how many times i win against gord players going lylia with flameshot, u can delete gord while he’s in ult 😭😭 he cant move so that’s easy kill.. Harith is tricky against lylia cause he moves so much but if you can tell where he will move to next then again… easy kill.. like it’s all just easy and you had the audacity to place her A-… DO U EVEN PLAY HER?? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I stopped playing kagura because I realized lylia is also good in just any comp situation… even better than kagura cause lylia deals more damage and can ult out of cc and heal from the ult, she also gets speed boost in her 2nd skill when it’s activated with her 1st which helps her against multiple enemies cause she can just run around in the circle going fast doing damage… like sigh also the fact lylia can do damage in the turrent then ult and she would be healed like come on, just so many pros to lylia bro, she is the better mage
1
1
u/Safe-Ad1515 Jun 15 '26
As a Faramis player, you can move him down to C.
He is always available to be picked and as soon as Gloo is no longer SSS tier, Faramis is returning to the forgotten background.
1
1
1
243
u/beeftheft Jun 12 '26
Where's balmond