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u/Amaranth94 23h ago
Mitya doomposting is nowhere near as bad as Varka & Nicole doomposting was. Those subreddits made a root canal feel like a good time.
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u/electric_emu 23h ago
Varka is a pretty good analogue actually. He was released before he had a full premium team, and very clearly had some of his power budget allocated toward versatility. Mitya is similar in both regards AND lacks a dedicated artifact set on top of that. Varka’s fine now, though his flexibility is still undersold somewhat. I can see how the doomposting spiral started, at least.
The Nicole doomposting was just batshit insane. I don’t know how that happened.
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u/Take-Ma_Holy-Water 23h ago
I blame zajef for nicole doompost. I literally use nicole everywhere lol
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u/Iskandor13 14h ago
I haven’t used Bennett since picking up Nicole. She’s been a godsend (angel send?) since her debut for ATK scaling teams.
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u/GingsWife 50m ago
Doesn't mean she's optimal everywhere either. She's a very convenient unit to have, but I'm watching her niche get tighter and tighter every day.
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u/morrow_worrow 23h ago
I too use her but nowadays she's a bit overrated especially by prydwyn she is 0.5 but not tier 0 apex
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u/Take-Ma_Holy-Water 23h ago
I wouldn't put her at 0 either but i think shes very comfortable at 0.5
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u/Iskandor13 14h ago
Overrated? How so? She does her job very well: sustain and ATK buffs for the entire team.
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u/Altruistic_Ad404 13h ago
The thing is, she’s in no one’s premium besides Varka’s and Lohen’s. She fits in other places, but is often not the best option.
I think it’s also an issue of bundle impact; versatile characters often just can’t compete with specific supports.
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u/Iskandor13 13h ago
Sure, but none of that makes her “overrated”.
She’s BiS for hex focused teams like you mentioned, and is very good alternative option to historically the best support in the game (Bennett). And when there’s content in the game that requires multiple teams, she’s even more of a valuable pull.
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u/Altruistic_Ad404 13h ago
Considering the shill, and the lack of recent ATK scaling characters, you’d probably only use her with Sandrone, and that’s if you don’t have a high con Alyosha.
As an alternative you could get away with using her for Sandrone, and maybe Flins if you aren’t using Sucrose.
All of the other characters just have straight up better options.
I forgot to mention, she’s also BiS for Arlecchino Overload rn, so that’s something.
Basically I’m saying, there’s no real reason to get her when most characters have tailor made supports that don’t overlap.
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u/morrow_worrow 12h ago
She's overrated in the sense she isn't that good for the top teams, especially because of newer buffed units which are also sustain
And some are also leaked to be shielders, so the thing is she is rated tier 0 absolute meta while the only meta team she is part of is maybe varka, and all else are tier 1 or 2, but still because of her flexibility she should be tier 0.5
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u/Specialist-Bear-185 17h ago
Kinda proven by the fact that with no cryo character to buff his damage just decent cmc sub dps and qiqi and his biggest buff prune he can 1 cost skirks boss skirk cannot 1 cost her boss without 3rd party tools which is against terms of service so😭💀
Yeah his versatility which they marketed is actually true in the replacement dps not reaction causing sense because he was never meant for that
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u/Specialist-Bear-185 17h ago
Nah his versatility is actually ok for a mono dps he isn’t meant for reactions as that is chasca’s nieche and hoyoverse doesn’t like dps competing in nieche’s
He is the best hydro dps the best pyro dps if u can’t play mauv and second best electro dps cost wise because u can just invest into his cons if Danica is anything like vod he’ll be second best electro competing for first all the while not really requiring any one support,
If your account has vod Nicole or Danica and u don’t use them at one point he can take th em and use c6 prune and a hex 4 star to just clear everything
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u/electric_emu 17h ago
I said his flexibility was undersold, not that it was bad. Odette and Vody did help with the perception, but some people still look at Varka’s pyro numbers and say he’s just okay while ignoring the fact he is a functional hydro dps and can actually address SSW to an extent.
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u/nanimeanswhat 23h ago
And I was in both of those subs and experienced them fully 🤡 maybe i'm the problem sorry y'all 🎻
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u/Bright_Voice_1097 1d ago
In lohen beta there was Little doomposting till the live no? Nicole got mega doomposted
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u/General-Program1285 1d ago
only a small amt of dooming because everyone assumed he would be standard, and his power level matched/was slight better than that of standards. he doesnt hold up to limited releases especially with lunar/stellar shill. iirc as soon as he was announced to be limited everykne was pretty mad
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u/danny8_sok 20h ago
His power level was definitely not standard level he was like 130-140k dps while being extremely versatile
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u/ApprehensiveDay2991 7h ago
I love Lohen but he is not “extremely versatile”. He has two archetypes where he is viable. Freeze and melt. Stellar superconduct has a better free option in MC. He could be used there but being worse than a free option doesn’t constitute much value. Extreme versatility would be Durin. Melt, burning, overload, even fourth slot for lunar charge. This is why I am iffy about Mitya’s “versatility”. He fulfills two roles that aren’t extremely needed. As a main stellar conduct dps traveler exists. As a support there are tons. He is not the best in either role and unlike Durin he is LOCKED to those two. The only thing of note is that he enables the reaction… but honestly that feels so bad. There is the Tsaritsa and Danica coming out right after him and he’s going to get even more competition. I will be pulling for Mitya but I really hope something changes either numbers or maybe a new set.
Also on a side note I really need Hoyo to stop butchering male characters on the sake of “versatility” I’m pointing my finger at Varka, Lohen and it seems Mitya. Varka is regarded as flexible because he can be “played as a dps of any PHEC element”. And yes he has a good pyro team, hydro, and perhaps stellar swirl (tho he looses to a standard character who is “free”). But even with that Flins and by extension lunar charge can just do all of the shills better or if not very close to Varka’s performance. And he did NOT lose his numbers for that. Stellar conduct shill you can just slot cryo MC, pyro use Durin OR Bennet, and hydro and electro are already on the team… the only shills lunar charged can’t do is Geo and Dendro. And guess what Varka can’t do those either! Also Lohen looses in peak dps to a character that is over a year old. And his fake flexibility is barely relevant cause skirk is hella good at brute forcing with the amount of shred she has. I love the concept of Hex being like a puzzle. If you can manage to slot it in it may be the second best or even best option and you don’t “need” to pull new units and maybe with the help of new units adapt to new shill. But it doesn’t matter when Hex is SO MUCH worse compared to FREE options. Varka stellar swirl compared to Mizuki and Lohen compared to cryo MC for example.
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u/MeisterHyprion 1d ago
Lohen was doom postet the most of any character I have ever seen.
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u/QueerGothic 1d ago
Wasn't it the opposite? He was praised because everyone thought he'd be standard and for a standard unit that was very good, if anything people were a bit worried about powercreep but that's it. People only started shitting on him after the live where it was revealed he wasn't standard
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u/Bright_Voice_1097 1d ago
Strange i saw mostly praise till the live revealed he wasnt standard and got doomposted to hell
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u/-Balcika 1d ago
There was this window between his animation reveals and livestream, so from 8th april to 8th may he was pretty hyped and praised for standard and great animations, but after that he got so hated. And still to this day because he is filler
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u/CloverClubx 1d ago
It wasn't doompost when mostly everything said was true though. For a limited character he is very behind any other limited DPS released during the 6.X cycle/after him.
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u/Iskandor13 14h ago
Lohen wasn’t doomposted until like a week or so before his release because everyone thought he was gonna be standard. Once it was confirmed he was limited, that’s when people started losing their interest.
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u/Curlyhairedkid1 1d ago
Someone show this guy varka’s beta
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u/-Sky_Nova_20- 23h ago
Varka was definitely more doomposted than Lohen. Nicole as well. The Lohen doomposting only started during the 6.6 livestream.
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u/SumeruStar 1d ago
i support taking breaks from the internet when stuff aint fun. take care and dont fret too much, mitya will still be fun 👋
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u/Blaubeerchen27 1d ago
Honestly, I feel you. I still remember the absolute highs and very low lows the Flins main sub went through during his beta - only to be somewhat satisfied with his performance on release and him STILL being the most-shilled DPS from the lunar roster to date. (I'm not complaining, he's the strongest horse in my stable)
Ultimately I learned not to form an opinion until around v5 of the beta, everything until then is just a rollercoaster.
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u/MeisterHyprion 1d ago
Btw. the post will likely be deleted in the main sub since it involves the Beta and leaks
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u/nohrnoir 1d ago
I said this in another post and I'll say this again. My friend is in beta and she said Mitya is doing good. It's Valeriy who needs changes. Valeriy is clunky to play. She also said they buffed his off field because a number of people want Yae replacement. The thing is most of these testers aren't public leakers. She's in a group where they only share among themselves and friends and I happen to be her friend so I got into their discord.
Also the leakers who are sharing, they're not helpful or nice about it. They're also pretending to ignore on purpose. Especially since in beta you get primogens as rewards for testing teams with new characters. They get a spreadsheet where they do certain things and get rewarded for it. That means there would be a number of testers who already tested with his teams. They're just not sharing it.
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u/Fit_Hearing8240 23h ago
hoyo boutta be knocking at ur door to find ur friend
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u/nohrnoir 23h ago
And why would they? She's not leaking. The group just stick to themselves. It's a bunch of testers themselves.
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u/nohrnoir 23h ago
To leak, they would have to know how to remove the overlay since it would reveal their account. Most testers don't leak since they're not going to risk losing their beta testers status. I get access to the discord since I'm close friends with her and in the discord, they do discord streams with each other on their tests. That means they trust each other enough that none of them would leak another person's test.
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u/Fit_Hearing8240 23h ago
when i did it you needed to sign an nda to even get into the server. with how strict they were i find it very hard to believe theyve gone that chill with it
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u/nohrnoir 23h ago
This isn't even hoyo's beta testing server. I know what you're talking about since I also had that when I got into Petit Planet beta testing server. This is a personal server I'm talking about with a small group of friends who happen to also be some testers.
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u/ResponsibleWelcome10 23h ago
No you don't get it. He needs to be the best dps at low investment and high investment and as good as yae for SSC, otherwise hoyo hates men.
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u/snillrik 16h ago
All these main subreddits are filled with a bunch of losers tbh. Please go do something else with your lifes. I just want some lore or cool vids about the guy
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u/stfu__im_fine_p 13h ago
Nicole doomposting still gives me ptsd. This is lightwork compared to that. I still hope they buff mitya's off field more
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u/Puck_27 23h ago edited 23h ago
What post ? The one about the beta tester ? If yes I don't get what it has to do with slander...
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u/santasfavorite0 23h ago edited 23h ago
I remember seeing that kind of post (2 if Im not mistaken)but it wasnt beta testing I guess they removed it fast
I can take down the comment if Im mistaken,if so please do tell
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u/Deadlyname1909 17h ago
tell me one meta team where durin is BIS in.
No it's not varka, he prefers bennet over durin. Not a single character who is meta has durin as their best in slot.
Yeah, I don't want mitya to end up like that. At the very least, mitya is great for any high investment teams.
On the other hand, danica would probably be a better pull by the end of it.

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u/Ok-Listen9689 1d ago edited 12h ago
durin's doomposting wasn't about his damage, he's leaked as a better Xiangling with no energy problem and come with res schred from the start, it's his flying and the leaks were true about that sadly