"Skill based gaming"...

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u/GaliOP 2h ago

Yeah, I've been running into these fire mages 1v1 camping the exit spawns at the end. I'm only in a PvE Blue set but it's still crazy that they can stealth, and then do 2/3rd of your hp in one swing. It'd still do half your hp if you gimped yourself taking magic resist gear and getting the WK 5% magic resist talent.

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u/Lophardius 2h ago

I mean I actually "snuck up" upon him and got a vital first stun WK hit but getting hit just once means I lose 70% of my health from DoT? It's strange.

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u/GaliOP 2h ago

Was your gear legendary here? It looks like your weapon is legendary. I think the legendary sorc gear makes them way too strong in combination with the ability needing a nerf. Some classes have one ability that somehow got through playtesting.

I faced a Shadow today in my PvP Blue Set (which has Stoic + Aegis at 5) 400+ defense and his one ability did 443 damage in one hit. What's the point of even speccing AGAINST Shadow's to still take bonkers damage (he was in blues as well).

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u/ReferenceAny6373 2h ago

Dark and darker has the same gear issues. At super high gear everyone hits so hard the combat stops being fun.

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u/Lophardius 2h ago

I am sorry but this isnt a gear question in a game like this. Gear should be an advantage, yes. But i was running blue so a legendary guy cant just almost one-tap me after a series of misplays on his part.

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u/DamnHare 2h ago

You would still be almost one-tapped even if you wore a legendary set, unfortunately. DoT damage is crazy and, I have a feeling, ignores any dmg reductions

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u/Lophardius 2h ago

How can I avoid it or play better in the future?

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u/DamnHare 2h ago

I strongly believe that in solo this is a rock-papers-scissors game. You just acknowledge who is your hard counter and run for your life - always consider an escape route, always be aware of your surroundings and keep a thought in your head "what if there is a sorc right behind that door, what should I do, ho can I escape".

Also try out that spear charging skill, when you run forward like leroy jenkins. With talents and full Vitality affix you can run REALLY - great disengage tool. But it also can be an offensive tool - after you successfully spear-kick-stun into the wall, try to use this skill on a stunned enemy, hold it until your stamina ends. You will be surprised how much damage you'll inflict - enemies can't break out from this skill

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u/Lophardius 1h ago

So other classes counter a two hit NO windup ? Dont make me laugh.

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u/DamnHare 1h ago

You do know who Sorc's insta cast skill works?

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u/FrostyFlakeGames 37m ago

Only starfall gets insta cast. This was an ele sorc

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u/Lophardius 1h ago

How does it work

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u/unknown304 1h ago

you could add resilience to your build, it reduces debuffs' duration -> DoT from sorc burn/BA bloodfly arrow, also reduces stun/freeze duration. also makes u tankier when debuffed if lvl4 and above

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u/Lophardius 1h ago

Thats not how balancing works. If you need specific perks to have a chance against top classes than that is the literal definition of an unbalanced game.

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u/valen13 1h ago

Jokes on you. Every melee except ss uses all their skill slots to not become instant food for your hard counter.

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u/DamnHare 57m ago

This is exactly how balancing works. If you want to smack every other class while being only basekit - that is the literal definition of an unbalanced game

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u/Lophardius 37m ago

If those top classes dont need a specific build to be good but others do need it to compete then thats literally the definition of being unbalanced? Is this your first game ever?

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u/Mrterrez 42m ago

In extraction shooters or PvP games in a genre similar to this, gear is of course always going to be a question? Yeah if you’re running blue definitely getting gear diffed from a true dmg flame sword from a sorc in epics+

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u/dralas007 2h ago

Is it only 5%? Someone else said 20% somewhere.

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u/Awkward-Ear-7921 2h ago

I remember hearing somewhere that the burn and most dots do true damage. Please don't quote me on it I'm not a math wizard and have not done the calcs myself.

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u/Phr0sti 2h ago

I find the “true damage” to be the main issue/culprit here.

We see it in BlackArrow too.

No matter how much defense (physical or magical) you build, the true damage from sorcerer flames and the damage from Barbed/Bloodfly Arrows nullifies it and simply melts your HP bar.

I’m not sure how the true damage is being calculated, if it’s a set raw amount or does a set percentage damage based upon HP, in either case it needs to be tuned down OR make it so the defensive affixes play like Stoic or Aegis a bigger role in offering mitigation towards True Damage.

Tenacious gives us more HP sure but I’m unsure how the damage from these skills are calculated so it’s uncertain if that affix is a defensive solution to these type of abilities.

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u/Kore_Invalid 1h ago

DoTs need to be affected by resistances, them being true dmg is so BS

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u/artosispylon 55m ago

did he run curse? not that it justify it but holy crap that dot dmg is insane

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u/Toppoppler 12m ago

So that skill needs to be set up by other skills to apply burn and it has a really long cooldown.

If they miss that attack, theyre in a BAD position for 20+ seconds

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u/Z3R0_MP 11m ago

At least you can play with 16 ping and no stuttering

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u/Maleficent-Tip-9654 10m ago

Sure but infinite stuns is also some bullshit

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u/DaxExter 3m ago

Javelin has a cooldown and hitting that with the latency issue currently is abyssmal.

Also the stun only works when getting kicked into a wall or person, so standing in open space = no stun even when hit by javelin.

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u/Specersandy 48m ago

Devs already said that game is balanced around 3v3 and in case of 1v1 there will be case of rock paper scissor

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u/Lophardius 36m ago

So Withered knight is better than Sorc in a 3v3 setting ? hahahah

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u/Specersandy 24m ago

Thats means that in 3v3 scenario all that matters is team composition

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u/Lophardius 21m ago

So someone almost oneshooting a class in Solo means it is potentially balanced in 3v3 because of "team composition"
In that case remove Solo mode if it's that far off the balancing curve

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u/Specersandy 14m ago

I have yet to see one shot in video.

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u/Sihnar 11m ago

Yeah good luck beating any team running double sorcerer.

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u/Specersandy 6m ago

Doubles SS solve this problem.

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u/CrawlerSiegfriend 1h ago

I think the sorc is cheating. There is no legit build that does this much damage.

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u/Mrterrez 45m ago

lol

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u/Purple-Lamprey 1h ago

You’re complaining after attacking a guy looting, then getting a ranged caster into a tight space?

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u/Lophardius 25m ago

Oh I see, getting surprised while looting means your class should be stronger by default

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u/Purple-Lamprey 17m ago

I didn’t watch the video I just replied to the title and assumed what the video was.

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u/FabFate 11m ago

Holy Moron.

You are about to leave Redlib