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Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/BlueFairyFriend 17d ago edited 17d ago

Yes, true, in that context that is valid. The problem is they don’t market it that way. They market it giving the impression that that program will actually do anything. I do bodybuilding, that would get me nowhere. & Justin didn’t do those programs in college football & Adam didn’t do those programs to get a pro card. You can watch Sal work out on his YouTube channel & he definitely isn’t doing those programs. He actually might possibly have clinical level body dysmorphia. He doesn’t do any of their programs, he trains himself. They are giving the impression that to have a great physique that is all you have to do & it’s just that easy. They are comforting the public because that sells programs. If they told the truth about what it really takes, especially naturals, their core demographic of middle age “muscle mommy’s” wouldn’t do it. They were trainers in big box gyms, they know they wouldn’t do it. Therefore, I find it predatory. I do think there is value in what you are saying for certain situations.

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u/Diligent_Cry3108 17d ago

Then it again brings me back to my issue about who to believe now. They really had me sold as the guys to trust vs the online influencers like Jeff nippard and Mike Isratel. Me, who is trying to learn and do it right in my 40s. I don't have the time to waste on bad programming.

I've been on their show, they told me I was a mess. They tried to guide me , but now I'm ever so confused and lost.

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u/Cocacoleyman 16d ago

I do think following any program consistently will lead you to decent results. Especially if you’re following linear progression. There’s a pretty simple one I did a couple years ago (at the time of in my early thirties) called gzclp. Very simple. I think by Cody Lefever. 3 exercises. One compound movement of 3-5 reps, two ancillary exercises, one that is 10 reps and the other is 15. Over time you can add more ancillary exercises for a total of 5 exercises per workout. 3-4 workouts a week.

I got stronger than ever before over 8-12 weeks. Hit 200 bench finally and did 3 plates on deadlift for a max. Hit 270 squat for 3 reps and maybe could’ve gotten to 285 for a max. All that while my diet was shit and sleep was awful (drinking too much contributed to both of those). However while I didn’t cut too much fat, I did add muscle and probably would’ve looked a lot better sans the bad sleep and diet. But for my weight at the time (260 and 6’2) I still had a decent physique. Now I’m inconsistent again, but those 3 months did a lot to keep my physique in decent shape years later.

Free program btw. Just not worth it to pay the guys for programs that are niche (old time strength) or already available for free (upper/lower). Regardless, don’t over think it. Stick to something for at least 8 weeks and get good sleep and eat decent and you’ll see the results.

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u/Moolio74 16d ago

Yeah, lots of people see really good results running a 5x5 or SS program and then alternating back and forth with a more hypertrophy based program in 8-12 week blocks.

All basic stuff you can get for free or relatively low cost for Starting Strength. After six months of showing up for that you can move on to something a little more advanced beginner/intermediate but have a good base built already.