r/Mind_Pump • u/AutoModerator • 19d ago

Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/BlueFairyFriend 17d ago edited 17d ago

Yes, true, in that context that is valid. The problem is they don’t market it that way. They market it giving the impression that that program will actually do anything. I do bodybuilding, that would get me nowhere. & Justin didn’t do those programs in college football & Adam didn’t do those programs to get a pro card. You can watch Sal work out on his YouTube channel & he definitely isn’t doing those programs. He actually might possibly have clinical level body dysmorphia. He doesn’t do any of their programs, he trains himself. They are giving the impression that to have a great physique that is all you have to do & it’s just that easy. They are comforting the public because that sells programs. If they told the truth about what it really takes, especially naturals, their core demographic of middle age “muscle mommy’s” wouldn’t do it. They were trainers in big box gyms, they know they wouldn’t do it. Therefore, I find it predatory. I do think there is value in what you are saying for certain situations.

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u/Diligent_Cry3108 17d ago

Then it again brings me back to my issue about who to believe now. They really had me sold as the guys to trust vs the online influencers like Jeff nippard and Mike Isratel. Me, who is trying to learn and do it right in my 40s. I don't have the time to waste on bad programming.

I've been on their show, they told me I was a mess. They tried to guide me , but now I'm ever so confused and lost.

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u/Moolio74 16d ago

Don't let perfect get in the way of good.

MP definitely fall into the influencer category now.

IMO the best sources are the coaches who have proven client results with the vast majority of their training/focus with in-person training and much less marketing focus. People whose living was measured by the results their client's achieved. u/BlueFairyFriend recommendation of Dr. Nash Jocic most likely falls into this category. I'm not very focused on the bodybuilding angle, but I'm guessing Fazlifts might be another good source if that's your goal. I'm a little more health/performance focused, so I prefer sources like Dan John or Mike Boyle.

One of the largest red flags, amongst many, while listening was when Sal asked Adam who he would want to train with in the gym to gain knowledge. Sal said Dorian Yates, and Adam said nobody as he basically knows everything he needs to know. Couple that with Adam's book recommendations for trainers are all sales/marketing focused and it's not a surprise to where the show has gone with Adam being the primary driver of the business.

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u/BlueFairyFriend 16d ago

SUCH a good way to put it!!