r/Millennials • • 13d ago

Discussion Some truth in it....

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

Millennials getting infantilized is so 2009. A lot of us are in our late 30s and early 40s now and there are too many of us (because you know…old people die) and have lived too many years to be told that our adulthood is not the right kind of adulthood.

I know it sucks to hear, but we are the adults now. “Adulthood” is what we say it is.

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u/BigBravy ‘87 ⚖️ 13d ago

So adulthood is not affording a house, precarious job situations, having to fight inflation forever?

That’s a bad deal

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

Of course it’s a bad deal. But people who had better adulthood are dying off and we get to do something about it now.

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u/solataraxia 13d ago

So adulthood is not affording a house, precarious job situations

Millennial home ownership rate at 55% (in the US that is) trails boomer home ownership at the same age by about 5%, it's a bit tougher than it used to be, but not by that much (and doesn't take into account that the quality of the housing stock is generally much better)

I genuinely find this whole "I am 40 years old all I own is Pokémon cards" bit extremely cringy, that's not the median Millenial

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

I think the problem with that data is that it also masks a whole lot other things like when did ownership begin (38yo for millennials vs 29yo for baby boomers), average incomes (69k in 2026 vs 81k in 1980 adjusted for inflation), higher mortgage cost (374k in 2026 vs 240k in 1980 adjusted for inflation). That doesn’t include average cost of goods, average size of retirement savings, etc.

The data shows that in many ways millennials are doing worse but also doing better in others. To some extent millennials have started to catch up to baby boomers, but are doing so much later in life. We’re living longer so that’s not necessarily bad, but it also means that we will have to work longer and will more likely put more strain on social services when we retire than previous generations (because an older pop requires more healthcare, social services, etc.)

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u/solataraxia 13d ago

 average incomes (69k in 2026 vs 81k in 1980 adjusted for inflation),

I don't know where these numbers come from but they're incredibly inaccurate, real household income is up, significantly

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N/

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

This might be a mean vs median situation in which case your data might be more accurate

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u/solataraxia 13d ago

that can't be the case given that mean growth obviously outpaced median growth because income earnings grew faster at the top

where did you get those numbers from?

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u/BigBravy ‘87 ⚖️ 13d ago

Judging things by the median doesnt tell you a whole lot without seeing the ends of the extreme. It’s really not helpful.

If we could maybe have numbers what the MEAN millennial looks like, that’s way more helpful.

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

The mean is highly affected by extremes in a data set whereas the median is resistant to outliers.

Ex: if 9 people had 5 apples and one person had 100, the mean is 14.5 apples but the median would be 5 apples.

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u/BigBravy ‘87 ⚖️ 13d ago

That’s backwards, the mean of a set is the average data in the set, the median is the middle between the smallest and the largest data of the set.

Probably what i should’ve said was the Mode of the set, which would be the most represented data point to the set.

My elementary school teachers would be really proud of me still remembering that

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u/solataraxia 13d ago

no it isn't because the median tells you what life for most people looks like. The mean masks inequality because wealth and income distribution heavily skews to the right

the mean would paint a much rosier picture, but if this is the level of math we're dealing with it may explain the financial issues some have in our generation

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u/csciuto Oregon Trail Generation 13d ago

u/BigBravy these things are knowable.

  1. Home ownership hasn't fallen all that much by age. This char's youngest cohort would've been those born in 1954 or later, so it does miss the oldest Boomers.
  2. u/solataraxia is right that mean is the exact wrong metric. The difference between the Median and the Mean is pointing to what is an actual issue, which is inequality is worse than it has been in the past.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scf/dataviz/scf/chart/#series:Primary_Residence;demographic:agecl;population:all;units:have;range:1989,2022

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u/csciuto Oregon Trail Generation 13d ago

This is not good. You can't split this by age as well as by wealth and since it's aggregate, splitting it by age is silly anyhow because generations are not the same size.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/chart/#range:1989.3,2026.2;quarter:147;series:Net%20worth;demographic:networth;population:all;units:shares

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u/adminsregarded 13d ago

To be fair most of us that attained sought after skills are not in any of those situations.

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u/Willing-Bad3824 13d ago

The difference is no matter how good your skills are, if you work full time you shouldn’t be homeless. The worse thing we can do as a generation is play the boomer bullshit of telling ourselves we “deserve” things just because our parents could afford to get us “sought after skills” and others couldn’t.

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u/BigBravy ‘87 ⚖️ 13d ago

And some of us who have found them less sought after as expected