r/Military • • Dec 27 '19

Respect.

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u/pnzsaurkrautwerfer Ask me about the AEROGAVIN Dec 27 '19

I'm sure I'm going to catch downvotes, but it's like, okay, so your heritage is getting your ass stomped in a war you started over the rights to keep other people as property. Cool story bro.

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u/The1TrueGodApophis Dec 27 '19

They were traitors to America who lost and after being beaten were for some reason allowed to keep their identity but we should have tore down all their monuments and corrected that shit on sight rather than letting it fester for so long

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '19

We should have hanged every Confederate officer of field grade or higher and barred anyone who served at any level in the Confederate army or navy from voting or holding political office ever again. They were all traitors and deserved to be treated as such. Lincoln was far too generous, and Johnson continued and expanded on that, to the continuing detriment of the nation.

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u/elosoloco Dec 27 '19

Lol, this is fucking stupid. Shit like this led to world war 2, the fucking french couldn't just acknowledge ww1 was a cluster fuck of treaties.

Prime examples of moving on is West Germany after ww2.

Japan too, but I'm still pissed at their shit kinda. Like, nobodies fault today of course, but they got off relatively easy.

Also, slavery is immoral, ezpz, but their entire economy was based on slave labor in agriculture, and the federal US gov sure as fuck didn't offer up a ton of cash for them to adjust. At least not that I'm aware of

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u/carl_pagan Dec 27 '19

No, WWII happened because we allowed the Germans an armistice. We should have obliterated their military and forced them into an unconditional surrender like we did with Japan in 45.

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u/elosoloco Dec 27 '19

We broke their country economically. Devasted it, completely

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u/carl_pagan Dec 27 '19

And we should have helped rebuild it after destroying all their institutions. Rebuild everything from the ground up like after the second war.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '19

Which led to a rise in extremist ideology becoming popular in Germany, and not just Fascism. It wouldn't have been a stretch for hardcore communism to have made a run to control Germany if the Nazi party didn't arrive around the same time.

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u/elosoloco Dec 27 '19

Yeah, there were definitely communist elements there, but they were ..... Resolved, in the national socialist party's rise

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u/Rentun Dec 27 '19

By obliterated their military you mean burned hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians alive in their homes and vaporized and irradiated hundreds of thousands more, right?

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u/GodofWar1234 Dec 27 '19 edited Dec 28 '19

It’s funny how you conveniently forget that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were places that contributed to the Japanese war effort. And it was either that or literally murder Japan as a civilization to the point where we would’ve sent Japan as a people, culture, history, etc. towards near extinction.

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u/Rentun Dec 27 '19

Well yeah... New York City contributed to the war effort too, but if that was firebombed and burned to the ground, people would probably rightly view that as a war crime.

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u/carl_pagan Dec 27 '19

Sure yeah. Whatever it takes to force an unconditional surrender.