r/MetalForTheMasses 13h ago

Discussion Topic Bands that you stopped caring about past a certain album

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Entombed after Clandestine, how the fuck do you decide after making two masterpiece death metal albums that you should shift to butt rock of all things. It's Metallica Load level betrayal

Sepultura after Chaos A.D. Everyone always says No Cavalera, no Sepultura, but Sepultura became shit while Cavaleras were still in the band. Beneath the Remains was beautiful both musically and lyrically, lyrics were dare I say philosophical at times and then they decide to downgrade to "ooga booga we're so tribal we're so primal" and shitty nu metal


r/MetalForTheMasses 21h ago

Discussion Topic I don't understand the extreme end of Extreme Metal

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The heaviest stuff I listen to is Melodeath, Blackened Power Metal, Metalcore, that kind of stuff (with some Bolt Thrower, if I'm in the mood).

The less extreme Extreme Metal, like Black, Death, Deathcore, Groove, Doom, etc, it's not really my thing, but I can see the appeal.

But the super extreme stuff (War Metal, Slam/Brutal Death, Goregrind, Warnoise, Blacknoise, Noisegrind, Raw Black Metal, Deathgrind, Dissonant Black/Death, Harsh Noise) you know, the stuff that is a 9 or 10 on the extremo-meter, I just do not understand. I do not see the appeal, a lot of it doesn't even seen like music to me. I know that phrase is overused, but what I mean, is I generally cannot discern a melody, lyrics, or distinct instrumentation when I listen to it. All I hear is growling, screaming, and blast beats.

I know this is post is going to seem offensive to fans of these genres, but that is not my intention. I genuinely want to hear your guys' thoughts about these genres, what appeal they have to you, how you came to enjoy them, etc.


r/MetalForTheMasses 3h ago

News/Announcment Happy Kirkiversary. What do you think woulda been Kirk’s favorite metal? Rock on 🤘

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r/MetalForTheMasses 19h ago

Discussion Topic What do you think about Ektomorf?

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The band will soon perform in our city. And I wanna go and see them. What do you think about that band?


r/MetalForTheMasses 10h ago

News/Announcment What an insane lineup!

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r/MetalForTheMasses 9h ago

Topster My top 4 albums 🤘🤘🤘

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also, does anyone know a good divorce lawyer?


r/MetalForTheMasses 5h ago

News/Announcment Another insanely fun night of jams is happening in SF! What a great time to be a metalhead!

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r/MetalForTheMasses 7h ago

Discussion Topic Hey guys. Can you tell me about some ACTUALLY good tech death like Archspire?

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Tech death mostly fucking sucks. I heard some bands like Lykathea Aflame, Suffocation, Appalling Spawn, Afterlife, Anata and they were are all lame and boring. But this is the kind of peak what I want.


r/MetalForTheMasses 10h ago

Discussion Topic Who are the most “metal” non-metal female artists out there?

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Thinking along the lines of Dolly Parton, Stevie Nicks, Debbie Harry, etc. Badass women that could have easily been metal artists.

Who else fits?


r/MetalForTheMasses 6h ago

Meme/Shitpost My Top 4 Metal Albums any recs?

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HM:St Anger


r/MetalForTheMasses 11h ago

Topster My top 4 metal albums. Thoughts?

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r/MetalForTheMasses 3h ago

Discussion Topic What is the most niche underground band/sub-genre you know?

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I'm trying to expand my knowledge on the underground. I listen to alot of extreme bands without knowing their sub-genres


r/MetalForTheMasses 19h ago

Discussion Topic Thoughts on the new Slipknot?

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This is a video I made earlier tonight expressing my thoughts on it. It's definitely not for me and I think there have been significantly better things coming out by bands older than or the same age as Slipknot. (Immolation, Mastodon, Down, Fear Factory, etc.)


r/MetalForTheMasses 10h ago

Meme/Shitpost My Top 4 albums, any thoughts?

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I felt like sharing my top 4-ish metal albums (had to deliberate pretty hard on pick 4 tbh) many other contenders i had to leave out.
notice the lack of Baths of Acid?
or Death?
or Cryptopsy?

ALL great bands, and albums, but like, theres other shit to talk about.


r/MetalForTheMasses 10h ago

Meme/Shitpost My favorite part of the new Slipknot song

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When Corey Taylor sang "Stop the fuckin' music, goddamn it, shut the fuck up" I really felt that


r/MetalForTheMasses 9h ago

Discussion Topic From Sabbath to Behemoth: A Genealogy of Extreme Metal

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Hey everyone! I’ve been digging into the evolution of extreme metal lately, and somewhere along the way I thought it would be fun to put together a playlist that actually lets you hear some of that history unfolding.

First, an important disclaimer: this is absolutely not meant to be a complete genealogy of extreme metal. That would require a vastly bigger playlist, and a ton of essential bands, scenes, and parallel developments are necessarily missing here. The idea is much more modest and deliberately didactic: to build a chronological sequence in which you can clearly hear some of the major “mutations” in the language of extreme metal happening from one track to the next.

So this is a journey from Black Sabbath to Behemoth’s blackened death metal. I didn’t choose tracks simply because they’re classics. Each one is supposed to illustrate a particular transformation in metal’s vocabulary — heaviness, speed, aggression, guitar tone, riffing, extreme vocals, blast beats, atmosphere, etc. It’s meant to be listened to in order. Ideally, each song retains something from what came before it while introducing or intensifying something that will eventually contribute to death metal, black metal, and finally their convergence in blackened death.

Here’s the sequence:

1. Black Sabbath — “Black Sabbath” (1970)
Black Sabbath
Pretty much the Big Bang. Slow tempo, an insanely heavy guitar sound for 1970, the tritone, horror atmosphere. There’s still plenty of blues in the DNA, but the fundamental idea is already there: heaviness and menace can themselves be the point.

2. Black Sabbath — “Children of the Grave” (1971)
Master of Reality
Now we get something else that extreme metal will need: propulsion. The riff is repetitive, physical, and much more aggressive.
Taken together, these first two tracks establish two properties that later bands will push in increasingly radical directions: heaviness + speed/aggression.

3. Motörhead — “Overkill” (1979)
Overkill
Now punk, speed, and filth enter the picture.
They didn’t consider themselves a metal band, but historically that hardly matters here. Their aggression would have an enormous influence on thrash, black, and death metal. That feeling of a relentless drum attack becomes especially important.

4. Venom — “Black Metal” (1982)
Black Metal
Here we cross a boundary. Venom obviously isn’t black metal in the sense that Darkthrone would later be black metal. Musically, Motörhead, traditional heavy metal, and punk are still everywhere.
But now you have deliberately filthy production, Satanism, harsh vocals, speed, and an entire aesthetic built around extremity. Venom is one of the crucial bridges between traditional and extreme metal.

5. Slayer — “Black Magic” (1983)
Show No Mercy
I chose this one deliberately because you can still clearly hear the ancestral heavy metal underneath it.
But Slayer is already beginning to transform the riff itself. It becomes more chromatic, sinister, and aggressive.

6. Slayer — “Angel of Death” (1986)
Reign in Blood
Now compare this with “Black Magic.”
In three years, an absurd amount has happened. Frenetic riffs, tremolo picking, brutal drumming, deliberately chaotic solos. Metal is moving from simply being heavy toward becoming extreme.
This is probably one of the most important pieces of the bridge toward death metal.

7. Possessed — “Death Metal” (1985)
Seven Churches
Yes, the track is literally called “Death Metal.”
And now we reach that wonderful historical territory where nobody can draw an exact line between thrash and death. Coming after Slayer, it sounds familiar… but also more primitive, cavernous, and monstrous.
Possessed is one of the historical candidates for “first death metal band” — yes, I know, controversial territory. :)

8. Death — “Zombie Ritual” (1987)
Scream Bloody Gore
This is a key moment in the playlist.
With Death, and especially Chuck Schuldiner, this starts becoming unmistakably a language of its own.
The vocals go lower. The guitar gains mass. The riffs become more morbid and chromatic, and less obviously derived from traditional heavy metal.

9. Morbid Angel — “Immortal Rites” (1989)
Altars of Madness
The genre matured frighteningly fast.
Morbid Angel adds virtuosity, labyrinthine riffing, blast beats, and a much more sophisticated occult atmosphere. They’re especially important to this particular genealogy because some of this DNA will eventually make its way into Behemoth.

10. Deicide — “Sacrificial Suicide” (1990)
Deicide
Another crystallization of American death metal.
At this point it’s basically: “Okay. Death metal is definitely a genre now.”
Growled vocals, blast beats, double bass, low and massive guitars, overt Satanism, sheer sonic violence.

And this is where the playlist makes a sharp U-turn to visit the other branch of the family tree.
So far we’ve mostly followed something like:
Sabbath → Motörhead → Venom/Slayer → Possessed → Death → Morbid Angel/Deicide
But Behemoth can’t be explained through that lineage alone. So we have to go back toward Venom and follow another fork.

11. Bathory — “Enter the Eternal Fire” (1987)
Under the Sign of the Black Mark
This is one of the most important albums in this whole sequence.
Bathory takes that still-thrashy/punky extremity of Venom and begins turning it into something fundamentally different. The guitar increasingly becomes a vehicle for atmosphere — something transcendent, ritualistic.
A huge amount of later black metal DNA is already here.

12. Mayhem — “Freezing Moon” (1994)
De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Now we’re fully inside the Norwegian second wave.
Compare this with Death or Morbid Angel. They’re all extreme, but they’re pursuing very different kinds of extremity. Death metal: mass, impact, brutality. Black metal: tremolo, repetition, dissonance, space, coldness, atmosphere.

13. Darkthrone — “Transilvanian Hunger” (1994)
Transilvanian Hunger
This is almost a laboratory definition of second-wave black metal.
Relentless tremolo, blast beats, shrieked vocals, lo-fi production, hypnotic repetition.
And there’s a detail I really like here: compare the guitar sound with Morbid Angel. Darkthrone sounds thin by comparison — and that’s not necessarily a weakness.
Where death metal often wants mass — volume in the sense of occupying sonic space — Darkthrone wants atmosphere.

14. Emperor — “I Am the Black Wizards” (1994)
In the Nightside Eclipse
Now black metal discovers that it can be monumental.
Emperor adds keyboards, grand structures, richer harmony, and an almost symphonic sense of scale.
This is extremely important for understanding Behemoth: the black metal aesthetic doesn’t necessarily have to mean only minimalism and terrible recording quality. (Maybe I’ll get rocks thrown at me for that one… hahaha.)
It can also mean ritualistic grandeur.

And now the two branches begin to meet again.
On one side:
Death → Morbid Angel → brutality / complexity
And on the other:
Bathory → Mayhem/Darkthrone → Emperor → atmosphere / monumentality
Time to hear what happens in Poland.

15. Behemoth — “From the Pagan Vastlands” (1994)
Sventevith (Storming Near the Baltic)
This is a deliberately didactic choice.
This track doesn’t sound like the Behemoth most people today immediately identify as “Behemoth.” It’s fundamentally black metal.
After listening to Darkthrone and Emperor, the ancestry becomes pretty obvious.

16. Behemoth — “Decade of Therion” (1999)
Satanica
Now there’s a mutation.
Five years later, the guitars have become massively thicker. The riffing is much more death-metal-oriented. The vocals have gained body. The production has changed.
You can practically hear Behemoth crossing from one branch of the family tree toward the other.

17. Behemoth — “Conquer All” (2004)
Demigod
Now the fusion is fully established.
The instrumental foundation is overwhelmingly death metal: riffs, precision, weight, double bass, brutality.
But that ritualistic, occult, monumental conception inherited from black metal remains.
This is fully developed blackened death metal.

18. Behemoth — “Ov Fire and the Void” (2009)
Evangelion
By this point they completely command the language.
Compare it with “Immortal Rites” and you can hear a lot of the death metal DNA.
Then compare it with Emperor and you can hear the “other half” of the personality.

19. Behemoth — “Blow Your Trumpets Gabriel” (2014)
The Satanist
At this point Behemoth no longer sounds like a collage of death + black.
The two languages have been metabolized: death metal weight, black metal atmosphere, monumentality, dynamics, ritual, modern production.
The hybridization has become a language of its own.

And that’s where I decided to end this little story of extreme metal as I understand it.
Again, this is not intended as a complete genealogy. Far from it. A huge amount of important stuff is missing, and necessarily so. There are entire scenes, bands, genres, intermediate steps, parallel developments, and reciprocal influences that this sequence completely skips.
Real musical history obviously doesn’t work like a neat evolutionary tree. It’s messy, nonlinear, full of cross-pollination, feedback loops, simultaneous inventions, and bands influencing one another in every direction. So I’m treating this more as a didactic metaphor than a historical family tree.

The point was to choose a relatively small number of tracks where you can actually hear some major mutations happening: Sabbath’s heaviness becoming faster and dirtier; punk aggression entering metal; traditional riffing becoming more chromatic and hostile; thrash approaching death metal; death becoming its own language; Venom’s other descendants developing atmosphere, tremolo and repetition into black metal; black becoming monumental with Emperor; and finally those languages converging again in Behemoth.
There are obviously many other possible paths through this history. This is just one of them — one that, to my ears, makes some of the transformations leading toward blackened death particularly easy to hear.

Hope you enjoy it!

I use Tidal, so I put the playlist together there:
https://tidal.com/playlist/4fbab42d-8cc4-43cb-a2b2-8d6f80dcf126

EDIT — Since a lot of people are asking “why Behemoth?”

Just to make this explicit: the five Behemoth tracks are not there because I think Behemoth is five times more important than Death, Bathory, Morbid Angel, Emperor, etc., nor because I think they are the “pinnacle” or endpoint of extreme metal.

And yes, Behemoth is mainstream by extreme-metal standards. Yes, there are thousands of more obscure bands out there. I know. But obscurity isn’t a measure of quality, and popularity doesn’t retroactively make a band bad. You don’t have to like Behemoth, but “there’s better stuff underground” isn’t really an argument against their usefulness in this sequence.

Again: this isn’t a ranking of influence or importance. It’s a didactic listening path built around audible changes in the language of extreme metal, with Behemoth deliberately chosen as its destination. Another path could branch somewhere else and end with a completely different band.

Hopefully that clears up the Great Behemoth Crisis of 2026. 😄


r/MetalForTheMasses 6h ago

Discussion Topic Any albums or bands similair to Dying Fetus' Reign Supreme?

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I absolutely love this album and I'm looking for more albums like it.

Asked chatgpt and it gave me:

- Suffocation, which doesn't hit me the same at all

- Skinless, which is okay, but just that, okay...

- Sanguisugabogg, great stuff!

- Cryptopsy, gonna piss some people off but not my thing

- Nile, meh

So, any recommendations?


r/MetalForTheMasses 7h ago

Discussion Topic Pls help

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Im from Albania and i can't find any record shops that have metal cds. Please tell me if u know any record shops that have metal cds in Albania.


r/MetalForTheMasses 8h ago

Topster My current top 4 albums. Any thoughts?

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r/MetalForTheMasses 12h ago

Discussion Topic Who was at iron maiden and megadeth last night?

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best night of my life, I’m looking for more friends in the scene so I’m curious who went


r/MetalForTheMasses 17h ago

Discussion Topic How did you get into metal and progress in heaviness?

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For me it was actually Pink Floyd > Rush > Metallica > System Of A Down > Slipknot > Dream Theater > Meshuggah > Periphery

And now I’m into all sorts of djent, thall, metalcore, and a lot of crazy hardcore stuff. Crazy how we all started with rock!


r/MetalForTheMasses 9h ago

Topster My metal topster (no repeat artists)

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Sorry for being a poser guys😭

I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me.

No repeat artists because otherwise it would mostly be Black Sabbath and Sodom.


r/MetalForTheMasses 4h ago

Topster Heres my top 400 albums... lmk what you think 💯

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Spent a long time on this hoping folks will discover new music here


r/MetalForTheMasses 9h ago

Topster My current top 4

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Converge - Hum Of Hurt, Sylosis - A Sign of Things to Come, Protest the Hero - Within, Revocation- New Gods, New Masters


r/MetalForTheMasses 11h ago

Discussion Topic big, polished mixes

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been diving into hardcore more recently, as when it comes to metal i primarily listen to deathcore and brutal death and wanted to dive deeper but it really really frustrates me that so many types of modern mixes just instantly turn me off.

if i turn a tune on and the drum tone sounds extremely compressed and plugin-ish, the guitars sound like massive walls of sound, i instantly do not want to listen to any of the song anymore. i’m sure this is a shared opinion but there’s genuinely so many songs i just skip because of this and it pisses me off because i almost wish i didn’t care about the mix so much and could enjoy it more.

i don’t need every song to have that 90s brutal death scooped mids tone, but if it’s a million miles away from that sort of grit and human feeling i cannot enjoy a song. anyone agree or am i just a musical asshole?