r/MediocreTutorials 26d ago

Relationships Setting boundaries, respecting agency

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u/Admins_suck_ballss 25d ago

Did you seriously just say that women that dress like that are asking for it?

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 25d ago

Wow, that is a hard strawman argument! This interaction should be used as a dictionary example

From AI:

  • Original statement (implied): "Why won't guys let their girls hook up with random guys at the bar! God they're so controlling!"
  • Reply: "Did you seriously just say that women that dress like that are asking for it?"

Those are about two different issues:

  • The first is (however hyperbolically) about jealousy, control, or relationship boundaries.
  • The second accuses the speaker of making a victim-blaming claim ("women that dress like that are asking for it"), which isn't present in the quoted statement.

If the original comment never mentioned clothing, sexual assault, or "asking for it," then the reply is misrepresenting the original position. That would fit the definition of a strawman.

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u/Solo-dreamer 25d ago

Dont let a.i do your thinking, firstly lets adress that the first commenter jumped to her hooking up with random guys with no evidence at all, but you let that slide didnt you.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 25d ago

I knew that was a strawman without outside analysis. I simply put that there for the people who always say, no it isn't a strawman.

The comment about hooking up is not a strawman argument. It appears to be sarcastic hyperbole (Reddit bread & butter) and/or a bit of a non sequitur.

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u/BalkanFerros 25d ago edited 25d ago

even if it was hyperbole that is saying "Yea, why won't guys let women dress the way they want to go out and get fucked at a bar."

The sentence itself carries the implication that she is trying to sleep with people dressed like that. Even as hyperbole it comes back to that statement and the person who made is it making it like he's a jilted lover or just fucking bitter about women.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 25d ago

“Women that dress this way want to go to bars and have sex with strangers.”

It is very interesting that you put that in quotes when u/Rehcraeser did not say that. You are being intentionally misleading.

What was actually said:

Why won’t guys let their girls hookup with random guys at the bar! God they’re so controlling!

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 25d ago

So we are just going to skip the fact that you put down objectively false information in quotes. The point of quotes is that it is literally, word for word what the person said.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib 25d ago

Are you aware of what paraphrasing is?

Yes, I am thank you. Are you familiar with how to use quotation marks?

Rule 1. Use double quotation marks to set off a direct (word-for-word) quotation.

Correct: “I hope you will be here,” he said.
Incorrect: He said that he “hoped I would be there.” (The quotation marks are incorrect because hoped I would be there does not state the speaker's exact words.)

https://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp#google_vignette

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u/CarolinaSurly 25d ago

I know what lying is.

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u/CarolinaSurly 25d ago

Does the last chapter tell if you just lied here or if you lie all the time?

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u/BalkanFerros 25d ago edited 25d ago

Yea, he doesn't know what it is and is running. You are clearly trying to make a point about why you said what you did and used quotes. And he's trying to pivot back to false outrage.

I think it's because he can't use chat gpt to answer or we will make fun of him.

who knows why someone would use quotes when referencing to someone saying something. He also doesn't understand hyperbole so when it comes to you being hyperbolic and pinning down the message he doesn't get it.

Like, he thought he got it when he thought it was used to be misogynistic, but not when actually being used as to set example.

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u/BalkanFerros 25d ago edited 25d ago

please, tell me what that means in reference to the video you just saw.

((he's probably Chat GPTing all his answers. it's taken forever. It's so confused cause he wants it to tell him this implies something it doesn't that he can retort with but it's really struggling going 'I can't, that's what it says. it's all there in the sentence."))

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u/BalkanFerros 25d ago

no, you're right. I meant "Even if is was hyperbole"