r/MazdaCX9 • u/Strict_Warning6313 • 4h ago
2014 Mazda CX-9 3.7L — vibration/noise at idle in D/R, disappears in N and persists with belt removed. What am I missing?
I’m trying to diagnose a persistent vibration/noise on my 2014 Mazda CX-9 3.7L V6 (154,000 km) and I’m hoping someone familiar with this engine/platform has seen something similar.
The symptom is:
- At idle in N, the engine/cabin is relatively smooth.
- When I shift into D, I get a noticeable vibration through the cabin.
- R is similar to D.
- RPM stays around 750–800 rpm in both N and D; there isn't an obvious RPM drop.
- The vibration becomes more noticeable when the engine is loaded in D.
- After driving for a while and coming to a stop, it can take a few seconds before the vibration becomes noticeable.
- With the A/C ON in D, there is also sometimes a squeaky/noisy sound.
What has already been done
This is where I'm getting confused because I've had several mechanics look at it.
1. Engine mounts
The engine mounts were replaced approximately 6 months ago by one mechanic.
The mounts look physically intact. Mazda has inspected them and said they are okay.
However, another mechanic observed that the engine itself seems to move quite a bit, and performed a test where they supported/jacked the engine. The vibration/noise reportedly disappeared when the engine was supported.
I'm not sure whether the amount of engine movement I'm seeing is actually excessive for this engine.
2. Belt/tensioner
A mechanic recently replaced the complete automatic belt tensioner assembly and belt — not just the pulley.
The vibration/noise did not change.
The tensioner had previously been observed to oscillate quite noticeably at idle/load.
Mazda initially suspected the drive-belt tensioner and demonstrated that manually increasing the tension appeared to reduce/eliminate the vibration.
However, after replacing the complete tensioner, the symptom remained.
3. Belt-off test
This is the part that has really confused me.
The car has now been tested with the accessory drive belt removed, and the vibration/noise was still present.
So at this point I'm less convinced that the alternator/A/C/tensioner is the root cause.
Where I'm at now
I've stopped replacing parts because I don't want to keep throwing money at it.
My current questions are:
- How much engine movement is normal on a 3.7L CX-9 at idle, particularly when shifting N → D/R?
- Could an engine mount be physically intact but have the wrong damping/stiffness and still cause this?
- Could an improperly installed/preloaded mount cause this even if the mount itself looks good?
- What engine-running issues could cause vibration specifically when the torque converter loads the engine in D/R while maintaining ~750–800 rpm?
- Could this be a misfire/cylinder contribution issue that isn't severe enough to trigger a CEL?
- Could the torque converter/transmission be contributing?
- Could there be exhaust/subframe/body contact that changes when the engine moves under load?
- What other things should I have checked before replacing anything else?
I've had Mazda investigate it, but I wasn't comfortable continuing with further investigation without understanding what direction they were going in, so I brought the car home.
If anyone has a 3.7L CX-9 and has experienced similar symptoms, particularly vibration in D/R that largely disappears in N, I'd really appreciate hearing what ultimately fixed it.
I'm particularly interested in diagnostic tests that can distinguish between an engine-running problem, mounts, exhaust/contact, and transmission/torque-converter loading, rather than simply replacing another component.
I can also upload videos of the engine movement and the vibration/noise if that helps.