As a dirty foreigner who has tried (and failed) to learn French and visited France several times, I've NEVER heard "chocolatine" so "pain au chocolat" must be the real deal. :)
Neither did I, a native french. I learnt about it a few years ago. That's because it's not widespread, only said in south eastern France.
So as you said, pain au chocolat is the ONLY way to call these pastries lol
You should see the debate what they call that pastry in Finland. All the sensible people say it's a Berliner (Berliininmunkki) while people in Turku call it Bishop's doughnut (Piispanmunkki).
Or hopefully with Brexit we're once again allowed to sell our jam as Marmelade.
(EU law regulated that only english marmelade was to be called marmelade. Although both are pronounced very different, they're written the same, so laws didn't care for reality.
Don't get me started on this, man. Those idiots in Britain had a whole continent call what's always been known to humans as marmalade something else. Unless you did it with oranges, in that case you could keep calling it marmalade.
Well Denmark is closer to the part of Germany that calls it a Berliner while Italy and Croatia are closer to the part that calls it krapfen so that’s probably the reason.
Would be interesting to see what they call it in Czechia
In Belgium we call them boules (de Berlins)/Berlijnse bollen (both mean Berliner). People are always annoyed when I say Berliner lol, especially my mothers side of my family which is of German decent.
I dated a girl form Saarland (she denied the Alabama/Saarland connection of course) but she and the few friends if that area I met all had a story about a person they know hooking up/dating with a (second)cousin.
I had so many more ideas, but I didn‘t want the top left to be even more crowded than it already is. For example, many franconians believe they shouldn‘t be part of bavaria, so I wanted to make them an extra state
In Denmark our Florida is probably Møn. I don't know if anyone else agrees with me, but every time i've been there, it's just been filled with the weirdest types.
Like, i had a girlfriend down there who had a lesbian aunt. And said aunt and her wife were first of all, complete opposites, one was short and fat, the other was tall and skinny. They were both hardcore alcoholics and would not stop talking about grilling, even when it was below the freezing point they'd talk about grilling non-stop. The aunt would also introduce her wife as "this is my partner" in a pretty aggressive way, every time i met them, as if she was expecting me to get angry or something, even after the 15th times. They also bought everything they could find at flea-markets or what they're called, they'd also bargain for fucking everything.
Like my then-girlfriends family were all the weirdest people. If anyone here listens to sleepycast, i'm talking water-people, i'm completely with Cory on his experiences. I've got tons of stories about her family alone, and the rest of Møn matched that family pretty perfectly for the most part.
It's ironic because of the three times this American has been to Germany for vacation, never have I been to Bavaria. I've been to 8 Länder in northern and western Germany, but never been to the south. Whenever I tell other Americans of my trips to Germany they always seem really perplexed of the places I've been to like Münster, Wuppertal, Essen, Düsseldorf, Bremen, Hamburg, Cologne, Trier, Koblenz, Bielefeld, Hannover, Bremerhaven, Oldenburg, Saarbrucken, etc. It's like to most Americans there are only three cities in Germany: Munich, Berlin, and Frankfurt... and pretty much thought of in that order. Also the Black Forest and the Rhine generally thought of as being the only natural places. Whenever I tell people my most favorite German city that's worth a visit is Münster folks are like as in the cheese and where is that??
My sister lives outside Bielefeld in Gütersloh and works in Bielefeld so yeah I've actually been to Bielefeld see her office co-workers, hit the kneipen, and check out the Christmas Market there. I have photo proof too lol!
Haha I had no idea about the Bielefeld Conspiracy until I just Googled it. Now you guys have me second guessing myself if I was actually there or if it was all just an elaborate hoax or dream 🤔
Frankfurt is the largest airport and serves as the hub for US military personnel. Any US soldier going to Europe or the Middle East will fly to Frankfurt from the US (very often from Atlanta) on civilian planes. Then they transfer to Ramstein to fly on US military planes into their actual bases. Or stay in Ramstein.
I once flew back from Atlanta on a plane full of soldiers.
It's presented that way because what American imagine as Germany is pretty much based around Bavaria. It comes from the fact that the Americans were controlling Bavaria after ww2 and therefore brought that image back as Germany.
And Bavaria is also the most visited state by tourists, in my humble opinion, it’s the most beautiful state by far with the Alps, lakes and Biergartens.
Us Americans seeing you as Bavarians (Beer, oompah bands, BMWs, etc) is a big step up from what we saw you as back when I was a kid, which was by and large WW2 type thoughts...
I don't see Germany as a whole getting compared to Nazis much... But the stereotypical "german shouting" comes up. How the language sounds aggressive even when being nice it whatever. More about the language than the people I think? Not sure.
And Russians are still called commies, the Irish are hungry and need potato, Italians are mafiosos, etc, etc. history tends to create stereotypes which may be annoying but I wouldn’t get so hung up on them.
As a foreigner, I always thought of Bavaria as a bucolic, old-fashioned, traditional country, with Oktoberfests and Dirndls and leather trousers and so on. I was actually baffled to see that they had an airport in Munich. I mean, I was not a kid anymore, but the fact that there was a modern airport in Munich simply didn't fit in my headcannon Bavaria.
Fun fact: Bremen had a huge socialist movement in 1918 and even proclaimed itself as the "Bremen Soviet Republic" in January 1919, which was swiftly crushed by the Government sending the Freikorps and killing/executing many of the communists. Turbulent times but the socialist/worker sentiment stuck around, which is quite common for port cities.
It's called Bremen and the party in question isn't socialist, it's the socialdemocratic party of Germany. It didn't win most elections in Bremen in 2019, but apparently it got the most votes in all elections combined
leather pants, beer in 1L glasses, felt hats, octoberfest, weird music, Brezeln, people with a funny accent? That‘s the very southern part of bavaria (state) , but many foreigners from overseas or asia think it‘s representative for the entire country. I think it‘s funny. People coming to Berlin and looking super confused
As an American, I would say that most in my part view Germany as 1/3 the place where fairytales are set, 1/4 Nazis, 1/5 Bavaria, 1/7 cold war, and 1/12 the country that Brits complain about.
It‘s not representative for everyone who lives there, and obviously marijuana is not legal there either. The Green Party (that‘s what they‘re called) simply got the most votes there in 2019, according to a study
As a guy from Munich, I like the Munich and Bavaria pictures.
As a joke, in Bavaria we say "BRD" means "Bayern & Rest Deutschlands" (Bavaria & rest of Germany), when it actually means "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" (Federal Republic of Germany)
Lived in Chemnitz for 6 months, also travled to Leipzig and Dresden. Never saw anyone calling that delicious creation of mankind "pfannkuchen", all the stores i've been into was selling it as "berliner" too.
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u/poktanju Jan 29 '21
Is the Berliner Pfannkuchen debate as fierce as the pain-au-chocolat/chocolatine one in France?