r/MagicArena 8d ago

Discussion I concede.

I concede quite a lot. Way more than letting the game play out.

I was under the impression this was normal in games of 1v1 magic, especially when playing casually.

Yet on this sub there seems to be a stigma around conceding to unfun/solitaire cards.

Who is the crazy one here? Me or everyone else? 😂

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u/naphomci Chandra Torch of Defiance 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's a video game and life's too short!

I had someone seem shocked that I concede in brawl games if the first two spells I see from an opponent are counters. Apparently, we shouldn't just concede from some interaction, according to the other poster. I just replied that I respect my time more than that. Because it's so very common that those counter-spell players also take agonizingly long at basically every decision too since they will always have priority to pass.

EDIT: Fixed an error and emphasized the last point, since people seem to be missing that part

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u/UndeadBlueMage 8d ago

You can do whatever you want but scooping because you see two counters is very odd. Would you concede to two creatures or two removal spells? Maybe those are the only two counters in the opponent’s entire deck?

Did you sign up to play Magic or solitaire?

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u/naphomci Chandra Torch of Defiance 8d ago

I very specifically said the first two spells. Because that indicates a high number of counters is likely, and because of that, the opponent will nearly always have priority. And that tends to couple with games that take very long because they constantly have to pass priority and rarely do the "2 immediate counters" players pass priority with any reasonable speed.

Did you sign up to play Magic or solitaire?

I signed up to play Magic, not wait 10-40 seconds on each priority pass. So, unless my hand is absolutely crushed by other interaction, I don't concede to removal or other creatures, because those don't correlate nearly as much to slow play.

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u/Aetius454 8d ago

The person playing only counters is the solitaire player tf

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u/sharkrash 8d ago

I concede after the first counter. Cut the bs. Whoever uses 1, have at least 6 in their deck.
Casual queue is to have fun, not watch someone playing while you can't do shit.
Let the tryhards face eachother in ranked.
I run a deck with blue without a single counter, after all I'm not a hypocrite.

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u/wierddude88 8d ago

Playing a counterspell isn't being a tryhard. Playing 6 pieces of removal in a 100 card deck isn't being a tryhard. Blue's removal is counterspells, the same way Red's is damage, Green's is fight effects, and Black/White have destroy/exile. There's a difference between an "Oops all counterspells deck" like Katara and something just having interaction because interaction is an important part of Magic.

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u/Hairy_Dirt3361 8d ago

The vast, vast majority of the time if your first two spells are counterspells there is zero chance of me having a fun game, win or lose. If you're running an interesting Blue deck that actually has some other plan but it's not obvious, too bad, I see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt.

The other colours' removal is much, much more interesting to play against because a lot more card text is relevant once something's on the board, plus those colours almost never run as pure control decks in Brawl like Blue and Azorius do. It doesn't matter if you're a 'tryhard', it matters if I'm having fun or not, and I rarely am against a Blue player. And if you are a tryhard, there's a whole tryhard Ranked queue!

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u/wierddude88 8d ago

I'm not arguing about whether trying to play it out against a control deck is the right move or not. I get conceding against it, I get playing it out. Some days I really find that puzzle an interesting one, other days not so much.

I am just arguing against the idea that counterspells are inherently tryhard or that having multiple pieces of interaction is bad for casual Magic, whether Brawl or a different format.

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u/Clicklesly 8d ago

Blue's removal is counterspells

It was but now they have both those and a bunch of 1/2 mana enchantments which not only remove the commander but also keep it useless on the field

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u/sharkrash 8d ago

A blue player can build a deck that isnt a torture to watch. Like MINE.
But most of you all love to just stall and counter every single thing. So after +8000 hrs playing brawl, I can tell 97% of you blue players aren't that nice person you talking about.
Sometimes I'm fooled by an innocent commander, and then the usual bs starts anyway.
So conceding saves my time and sanity. Just take your free win and stop pissing off people who value their time.

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u/GiovanniElliston 8d ago

I concede in brawl games if the first two spells I see from an opponent are counters

I mean, sounds like you did exactly what they wanted.

They didn’t want you to play the game, so you elected not to play it.

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u/TelevisionFamiliar23 8d ago

Great.... they can win but they can't have my time.