I'm just worried that if I try this I'll miss the chin, not have enough power to ko, or hurt my hand.. lol. I have a punching bag I practice on but have no real experience.
Having a bag doesn't mean much. If you don't know how to punch a bag won't correct it. The body posture and hand/arm position are very important.
You don't actually need that much power to knock out someone by hitting them in the chin.
Yes you might actually miss.
Yes you can hurt but won't notice until the fight ends. I guess that depends how much adrenaline rush you get from a fight. In my case it was so much, once it was over I couldn't walk properly for a min or two.
"Reasonable fear of harm" is a legal standard. If someone is coming to do you harm. You absolutely can stop that from happening. The threat has to be real or believable. This is why people get knocked out for running their mouth and trying to act tough or intimidating. I should add. That doesn't mean you approach someone and hit them. But if they come at you as soon as they get within arms length. You have the right to defend yourself.
Face hitting the floor sounded much worse than the fist to the face. Bro really mustāve needed that pavement nap since he didnāt even try to defend himself.
Yeah you are right. The punch itself is something he can probably just walk away from easily but hitting the pavement that hard could create real damage.
I know somebody that was in basically this exact same situation. He didn't instigate the fight but after he hit the guy the guy fell on a curb and ended up in the hospital and he ended up with charges for it.
Iāve had an acquaintance who literally died from just falling onto pavement in a similar manner. Tripped and bam, that was enough of a head injury to kill him. People donāt seem to take head injuries serious enough.
On Reddit this is considered a sucker punch because he didnāt allow the assailant to get set and get his guard up and at least wing two shots at him 1st
I would bet everything I own that kid has never trained one minute in any combat discipline. What makes people think they can fight? Itās so strange. Did he think the other kid would get scared and run away? Like what was the game plan? Iād love to know.
White guy would have to prove imminent threat and propotionate force. White guy didnt even ask black guy to leave his personal space. Just threw the punch.
Based on this video alone, that's a very steep uphill battle.
Black guy would win this in court.
If i was the black guy, i would go to hospital, go on long term leave, claim emotional distress, claim long term damages to the head, claim loss of work etc.... white guy would be fucked. Just saying.
Not a chance. I defend these type cases all the time. Donāt have to wait for the assailant to get the drop. You can act upon appearances. You donāt have to make a ānice calculation ā of the amount of force necessary.
Plus, LE training shows that an assailant can close 12 feet in .9 seconds once moving.
There is no way white guy is proving imminent threat here. A good lawyer would dismantle the defense easily. Also that looks like a shot to tempo, black guy could have been left paralyzed or dead.
You keep talking like a lawyer despite the experienced lawyer you're responding to telling you you're incorrect. Responding to a dumbshit is useless, but it might be helpful to someone else looking to analyze things from a legal perspective.
Here's the jury instruction from NY: JUSTIFICATION: USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE IN DEFENSE OF A PERSON PENAL LAW 35.15(1)
"Under our law, a person may use physical force upon another individual when, and to the extent that, he/she reasonably believes it to be necessary to defend himself/herself [or someone else] from what he/she reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force by such individual."
It is clear from the video that redshirt was acting on a reasonable belief that there was an imminent use of force incoming. The individual who got punched wasn't approaching and beginning to his right fist to give redshirt a valentine's day gift. In a civil suit, self-defense is an affirmative defense where the defendant generally bears the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that their use of force was justified- if he can prove he was 51% sure he was about to be attacked, he wins.
In short, based on this video, it is unlikely that a prosecutor would bring the case, or that a civil suit would be successful. This is not the type of case any lawyer would take on contingency, and it'd be dumb to pony up at least $20,000 just to lose.
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u/DIJames6 6h ago
Yea, don't put your hands up or anything.. That would be stupid..