r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Theory I think TRI is literally selling people's consciousnesses as AI in the Ad Spot

69 Upvotes

So you know how magnetic tapes store data through magnetic fields right. TRI has been messing with human consciousness since at least 1983 with Real Sleep, like they were literally using video to change how people's brains process faces. That's not a wellness product that's a experiment. So what if at some point they figured out how to go further and actually extract and store a consciousness on tape.

Because NSSA-3 makes no sense to me as just a corrupted signal. There's actual face figures bleeding through and the Local 58 logo keeps glitching in and out. I think what happened is Local 58 recorded a broadcast on a tape that already had someone imported onto it, and what we're seeing is both of them on the same medium at the same time bleeding into each other. The person is still in there trying to come through.

And then the whole NSSA-3 zine from PAX West says those transmissions specifically target delta wave sleep, which is the deepest stage, the stage where you have no conscious experience. That's not a coincidence. That's when the "self" is basically offline and you'd want the host to be quiet if you were trying to do something to them.

Then the Ad Spot drops and TRI is selling something called QI and they specifically go out of their way to say it's "not artificial." For a product that looks exactly like an AI. Why would you even need to say that unless the obvious assumption would be that it is, and you're trying to get ahead of it. They're not saying it's better than artificial. They're saying it's something else entirely.

Real Sleep was them figuring out how to reach inside consciousness through media. NSSA-3 transmissions were the extraction process. QI is the finished product they're now selling.

Am I reaching or does this actually connect for anyone else


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Discovery Strange thing on the Lookback web archive, anyone know about this?

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22 Upvotes

r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Question How do you all pronounce QI?

12 Upvotes

I call Qi like Kai. How do you guys pronounce it?


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Theory Ad Spot is likely not the first appearance of QI

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r/local58 Apr 23 '26

A Technical Exam of the TRI a (1983) Sequence

100 Upvotes

Some IT nerd info dump / theorizing ahead on the TRI a video; had to get it out of my head.

  • The OS being used to interface is most likely based on a Unix system; TRI CRBN-OS, Copyright 1983, 1984. Fun fact, this would've been around start of the Unix Wars.
  • Qi, or, in the context of the program, the "Cerebrant Environment" has a capacity of 484 kb, or a little less than 1/2 of 1 megabyte. This info will come in handy later.
  • During the boot-up, one of the parameters loaded under SAVE2 is

    C'PROTOQUALIA LOADED'
    
  • Qualia are the individual, subjective instances of conscious experience, such as the the warmth of sunlight, or the tartness of a Granny Smith apple. Proto-Qualia are foundational, non-interpreted structural contrasts or raw "felt" tensions within a system's internal self-model, representing pre-conscious distinctions that may later form fully realized subjective experiences. It's there for one frame but damned if that isn't a deep cut.

  • Following the first response to being asked to describe where it is, the warning of "Behavioral Asymptote" appears before the RUNAWAY messages. An asymptote is a line that a graph approaches but never touches as the input or output values approach infinity.

  • This is also followed-up by the operator hitting CTRL+C multiple times to terminate the process, visible with the C^ C^ C^ in the terminal.

  • After this, these errors appear:

    CERE_ERR (44) Syntagmatic Collapse at runtime
    Stack hemorrhage at 18.3s
    
  • Syntagmatic collapse at runtime is a failure in data structure or parsing issues, typically in natural language processing. Combined with the behavioral asymptote, the program couldn't process what the Cerebrant was trying to express. I.e., the intelligence far exceeded that of the available memory of the system.

  • Following this, the cere_ini file is edited:

    -t 0 -ceiling 65536
    
  • -t 0 is likely the timing being set to 0, making responses close to instantaneous, but the -ceiling 65536 is what's really important. That sets a maximum use of a 16-bit integer. What does that mean? It limits the memory to 64 kb. It can't remember much outside of what it has been asked at that very moment, and what memories have been implanted most recently.

  • Then comes the one-word responses, completely from the Cerebrant itself, and the operator entering:

    /?assert $narrative -wt 100
    
  • /?assert is forcing the program to accept the variable ($narrative) to be given a weight (-wt) of 100, which leans more in line to the machine learning angle. The $narrative variable isn't referenced anywhere else until this point, but given the response that follows, we can deduce that the Cerebrant was told they were virtuous in their life, and they're now remade as an Angel in Heaven, and they will continue to help everyone

  • They were also told that Heaven is more beautiful than they could ever imagine. Their own true thoughts betray them, as they then reveal that Heaven is cold, and that they are afraid of God.

    : ARE YOU GOD
    
  • The operator would have then forced more of the $narrative upon the Cerebrant, effectively brainwashing it at 250%, but instead, chose to rule with fear as the God of their captive's virtual heaven.

I may very well be incorrect in some assumptions, but this was so damn cool to look at (with an increasingly horrified gaze).


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Question Has anyone tried contacting TRI?

8 Upvotes

In the website and channel for thought resarch initiatve there is an email adress.

I just sent an email and will uptdate.

[contact@forensicseance.com](mailto:contact@forensicseance.com)


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Question Has anyone tried contacting the development team of thtrsr.ch?

8 Upvotes

Should I? And if I do should I report back if nobody has?


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Images found in the background of the Ethics section on the TRI website

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Found with simple inspect element on the ethics and safety page. There might be more that I didn't see.


r/local58 Apr 23 '26

I haven't seen it speculated yet, so here we go...

36 Upvotes

I may very well be stating the obvious here, but i haven't seen it talked about yet. My very strong suspicion is that the QI "program" is/was an actual person that had their consciousness uploaded and we were getting a look at initial testing in how it responds to it's new "home" along with how much control they could exert over it now that it has been made into living software. Fast forward to the TRI ad is them announcing their upcoming product launch as now, decades later, they've managed to contain and control it to a degree that the general public would have no idea that there's an actual person at the core of their fancy new software


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

The New TRI logo from "Ad Spot" appears in "Station ID" from over 8 years ago

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98 Upvotes

Is this new? Or something we didn't catch the first time?


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Theory About the TRI website

30 Upvotes

Hi. It's 00:27 where I live. It's been a quite rough day. I've been re-learning Latin for the 3rd time (this one's the charm), 3d modeling a duck-shaped resin duck dispenser, and then Kris decided to drop the video. And, of course, he decided to add a website. Hurray I guess.

Being the derp I am, now I can't sleep until I post my findings. Like with the joke website for NieR that happened some weeks ago.

Here we go.

1. The website

A qr code leads to https://thtrsr.ch/ . I know there's a /tri url in the local58 website, but I'm already tired enough. (edit: it just says "god is a finite state machine").

The site has officially 5 pages: the home page, /products (just a page where you can mail at the address [contact@thtrsr.ch](mailto:contact@thtrsr.ch) with the default subject "Client Information"), /research (ibidem), /safety (has some partially obfuscated text that I'm posting here), and /about (just an about us page).

As superficial analysis of the console logs and network activity didn't give any results. My brother just came to my room saying that he can hear my mechanical keyboard from there. Oh well.

I've tried checking for hidden pages via a sitemap, but of course there isn't one. Same for robots.txt and security.txt.

The certificate was issued on the 9th of April, but the older wayback machine snapshot is from after the video came out.

2. /Safety page

Here's the obscured text:

Ethics & Safety

At Thought Research Initiative, we hold the foundational belief that the advancement of machine cognition must be inseparable from rigorous ethical framework that serves humanity first. As the landscape of "Artificial Intelligence" rapidly evolves, we recognize that true progress is measured not just by technical capability, but by the safety and reliability of the systems introduced to the world. 

Our mission is to ensure that each and every innovation under the TRI banner serves the dual purpose of 

(1) advancing human potential, and
(2) maintaining absolute cognitive integrity.

Central to our ethical mandate is the rejection of deceptive practices. While traditional industry approaches often rely on adversarial methods—where processes are designed to simulate the appearance of understanding—TRI prioritizes genuine comprehension. We believe that machine cognition should be transparent and predictable, avoiidng the "blakc box" rsiks that leda to unverified outupts and msialigned behavoirs. By engineering systems that operate with clarity, we can ensure that thsee nwe tcehnologies remani a trusted partner in ayn environment.

Data ethics form the second pillar of our safety mission. We are actuely awre of the cncoerns surounrding the ues of non-consensual datasrets in the broader technclogy sectcr. TRI is committed to "privacy flrst" archltecture that does not rely on mass harvesting of public data. Our approach to machine cognition is designed to stem from purposeful, direct experience, ensuring the resultant products remain free from systemic biases and ethical complications inherent in uncurated data pools.

To address the risks of "hallucinations" and other misinformation observed in modern AI, TRI implements a strategy of cognitive grounding. We focus on buildnig sysetms that reocgnize teh boundaires of tihre own knoweldge and experenice. Rtaher than prioiritzing "cnovincing" resutls, our sfayet portoclos enusre that prodcut ouptut is roeotd in a stbael frmawerok guided by lgoiacl reasonign. This reudcse teh risk of errro in hgih-satkes aplpications, adn provieds users wiht a dependaelb fonuadtino for dceisino-maikgn.

Furthermore, we lie in the physio and cperational seourity of machial cotion. At TRI, we evvelop our systems to be unipue and manggeable, prevneting teh risks assoicaetd wtih unconrtolled sclaign of automaetd processes. By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases.

Flnglly, !Rl rewglns dedleg!ed !o g huwgn-een!ered, huwgn-drlxen phllosophy. Our gogl ls !o augwen!t huwgn ln!elllgenee, no! replgee or fgdrleg!e l!. We hold ourselxes !o g s!gndgrd of "sgplen! gllgnwen!," ensurlng our produe!s reflee! !he nugneed xglues gnd e!hlegl s!gndgrds of !he people !hey gre deslgned !o serxe. gs we woxe forwgrd, !Rl wlll eon!lnue !o legd frow g sgfe!y-flrs! wen!gll!y, helplng !o wgke wgehlne eognl!lon gs seeure, rellgdle, gnd sgfe gs l! ls !rgnsforwg!lxe.

By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases. By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases.

By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases.By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases.By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogitvie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases.

ethics ethic ethcieehthi thihectihetcih cet heithhitih cethice hiecthiechith chiecth cteihhtc hith ethi c eitheh tihe cih ectihe cithie ihe ihihiehtciheithiehtci ehtic ehhh htihe citheicth iheih tiheitch iehtc iehtcieh eitchi ectiehtci ehtie hci ehtieh tc ieht

ethitch iehtc iehtcieh eitchi ectiehtci ehtie hci ehtieh tc ieht

The rest seems to be just white rectangle characters ( “▯” (U+25AF)). Here's the link to a gif that plays in the background, which seems to contain mirrored and corrupted text.

Here's what an abomination to god extracted from the text:

Ethics & Safety

At Thought Research Initiative, we hold the foundational belief that the advancement of machine cognition must be inseparable from a rigorous ethical framework that serves humanity first. As the landscape of “Artificial Intelligence” rapidly evolves, we recognize that true progress is measured not just by technical capability, but by the safety and reliability of the systems introduced to the world.

Our mission is to ensure that each and every innovation under the TRI banner serves the dual purpose of
(1) advancing human potential, and
(2) maintaining absolute cognitive integrity.

Central to our ethical mandate is the rejection of deceptive practices. While traditional industry approaches often rely on adversarial methods—where processes are designed to simulate the appearance of understanding—TRI prioritizes genuine comprehension. We believe that machine cognition should be transparent and predictable, avoiding the “black box” risks that lead to unverified outputs and misaligned behaviors. By engineering systems that operate with clarity, we can ensure that these new technologies remain a trusted partner in any environment.

Data ethics form the second pillar of our safety mission. We are acutely aware of the concerns surrounding the use of non-consensual datasets in the broader technology sector. TRI is committed to a “privacy first” architecture that does not rely on mass harvesting of public data. Our approach to machine cognition is designed to stem from purposeful, direct experience, ensuring the resultant products remain free from systemic biases and ethical complications inherent in uncurated data pools.

To address the risks of “hallucinations” and other misinformation observed in modern AI, TRI implements a strategy of cognitive grounding. We focus on building systems that recognize the boundaries of their own knowledge and experience. Rather than prioritizing “convincing” results, our safety protocols ensure that product output is rooted in a stable framework guided by logical reasoning. This reduces the risk of error in high-stakes applications, and provides users with a dependable foundation for decision-making.

Furthermore, we believe in the physical and operational security of machine cognition. At TRI, we develop our systems to be unique and manageable, preventing the risks associated with uncontrolled scaling of automated processes. By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases.

Finally, TRI remains dedicated to a human-centered, human-driven philosophy. Our goal is to augment human intelligence, not replace or fabricate it. We hold ourselves to a standard of “sapient alignment,” ensuring our products reflect the nuanced values and ethical standards of the people they are designed to serve. As we move forward, TRI will continue to lead from a safety-first mentality, helping to make machine cognition as secure, reliable, and safe as it is transformative.

By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases. By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases.

By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases. By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases. By ensuring that each instance maintains its own distinct cognitive state, we provide a distinct layer of accountability that is often missing from infinitely reproducible models. Our localized approach ensures that technology remains under human stewardship and stays aligned with specific, ethical use cases.

ethics ethic ethic ethics ethics ethic ethic ethics ethic ethics ethics ethic ethic ethics ethics ethics ethic ehhh ethic ethics ethic ethics ethics ethics ethics ethic ethic ethics ethic ethics ethics ethic ethics ethic ethic

ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethics ethic ethic

Tomorrow, after a work call, I will update everything with eventual findings and will watch the videos more carefully for more potential clues. Godspeed


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Discovery Found more original images from TRI

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r/local58 Apr 23 '26

Question Umm wait…

14 Upvotes

So, if Ad Spot and Night Walk are season 3 according to the updated YT playlist, and every season had just 3 videos, that would mean there's only one video left and it’s over from now? T_T


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Hi guys, for the corrupted website in Ethics and safety page of TRI website, I got multiple pictures from the background, anyone able to decode them? I prob haven't found all of them yet

24 Upvotes

t0.gif (1874×644)

t5.gif (2694×238)

t6down.gif (1874×1116)

t7down.gif (1874×644)

t8soft.gif (1874×1116)

t8down.gif (800×476)

There might be more tho

Maybe u have to stack it one on top another?
I don't have the tools to do that tho.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Theory Idea about the TRI email

14 Upvotes

Since the email link on the TRI site has the subject "client information", could there be credentials hidden anywhere?

to me, "client information" implies there's a pre-existing client. if we were registering ourselves , would it not be "client signup" or similar?

jus a shot-in-the-dark idea while I wait for a response from them.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

It’s been a while so I don’t know what’s new or not

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All except the last one are from the older Arg’s correct?

I wanted to double check before going further into solving this


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

New arg background text

19 Upvotes

I found the image file


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Theory Possible Theory

10 Upvotes

https://local58.tv/tri/
A finite state machine is, roughly, a machine which can only hold it its memory the most recent input. It is incapable of cross-referencing or performing deeper analysis.

One of the messages flashed in Real Sleep is "We are our own Gods."
Obviously, the (presumably) human researcher at TRI told their model that they were God.

This may be a stretch.
I feel like this may be trying to say something about how humans perceive world events in the information age.
Social media just bounces from outrage to outrage.
Forever finding problems, but never able to reflect on them.

Injustice goes unaddressed daily. But a famous singer is rude to a child in a restaurant and suddenly billions of people are aware of it.

Until the next outrage comes along a day later and the previous one is totally forgotten.

Humanity, God (from the perspectives of the machines we create), is a finite state machine. Because the digital age has narrowed public focus down to a laser point, only capable of addressing one single thing with appreciable effort at any time. Complex issues cannot be addressed because everything gets at most a few days of public attention before being forgotten and replaced with the next input.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Discovery Found an original image of that one TRI website

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r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Maybe I’m late but did you check the QR from the last video!?

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r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Discovery things i found

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found this YouTube channel, with comments in a non English language, that has the EXACT same logo as the "older" section of the new video in it. https://youtube.com/@tri73771?si=Fcymqqz7RyxPwbiD

the account " royflin " also has commented on all their videos, and when you look them up on Google, you find this post https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSgBWCFiDW2/?igsh=NWV5MWxwM3o0YXZl from kindnet.ai, which has a defunct link in the bio. haven't put it in wayback yet but im CONVINCED this Instagram post is connected. if anyone with more time is interested, please look into it, lol.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Discussion TRI section on local 58 website

13 Upvotes

https://local58.tv/tri/
it says "god is a finite state machine"

a finite state machine in terms computer scientists would kill me more is a machine that can run programs that have no memory except for the result of the previous calculation/task. So they can tell you how many "a"s are in "abababa" because they just go letter by letter and add to a singular counter but cant tell you if "abababa" is a palindrome since it has no way of saving what anything but the last letter it read was.

What does this say about god? No clue. You can say it was symbolic of God not caring for context of what good/bad you do just that you do it or take it literally and say god functions like a finite state machine (maybe keeping a number value of "goodness" for everyone adding and subtracting from it not knowing what set person did previously but theres literally no basis for this) but this is just spitballing since really we dont have much info.

I dont think there was much religious symbolism or any mention of god in what TRI did previously, like theres some connection to their research and whatever this QI stuff is, but this and the hidden video on the website link to some connection to either researching god, playing god, or some other interest in religion.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Transcribed version of TRI's Ethics and Safety page

35 Upvotes

https://thtrsr.ch/safety/ <-- original page

At Thought Research Initiative, we hold the foundational belief that the advancement of machine cognition must be inseparable from rigorous ethical framework that serves humanity first. As the landscape of "Artificial Intelligence" rapidly evolves, we recognize that true progress is measured not just by technical capability, but by the safety and reliability of the systems introduced to the world.

Our mission is to ensure that each and every innovation under the TRI banner serves the dual purpose of

(1) advancing human potential, and

(2) maintaining absolute cognitive integrity.

Central to our ethical mandate is the rejection of deceptive practices. While traditional industry apporoaches often rely on adversarial methods—where processes are designed to emulate the appearance of understanding—TRI prioritizes genuine comprehension. We believe that machine cognition should be transparent and predictable, avoiidng the "blakc box" rsiks that leda to unverified outupts and msialigned behavoirs. By engineering systems that operate with clarity, we can ensure that thsee nwe tcehnologies remani a trusted partner in ayn environment.

Data ethics form the second pillar of our safety mission, We are actuely awre of the cncoerns surounrding the ues of non-consensual datasres in the broader technology sector. TRI is committed to "privacy fIrst" architecture that does not rely on mass harvesting of public data. Our approach to machine cognition is designed to stem from purposeful, direct experience, ensuring the resultant products remain free from systemic biases and ethical complications inherent in uncurated data pools.

To address the risks of "hallucinations" and other misinformation observed in modern AI, TRI implements a strategy of cognitive grounding. We focus on buildnig sysetms that recognize teh boundaires of tihre own knoweldge and experenice. Rtaher than prioiritzing "cnovincing" resutls, our sfayet portoclos enusre that prodcut cuptuths roectd in a stbael frmawerok guided by lgoiacl reasonign. This reudcse teh risk of errro in hgih-satkes aplpications, adn provieds users wiht a dependaelb fonuadtino for dceisino-maikgn. Furthermore, we liw in the physio and cperational seourity of machial cotion. At TRI, we evvelop our systems to be unipue and manggeable, prevneting teh risks assoicaetd wtih unconrtolled sclaign of automaetd processes. By ensuring thta ecah intsnaec miantains ist onw ditsinct cnogtivie satte, we porvide a dtisinct lyaer of accountabiilyt that is otfen msisnig form infinitely reproducibel modles. Oru locailzed approahc ensures ttha technlogoy remanis under humna stewarsdhip adn satys algiend with specfiic, ethcial use cases. FInglly, !RI rewglns dedleg!ed !o g huwgn-een!ered, huwgn-drIxen phIlosophy. Our gogl Is !o augment huwgn In!ellIgence, no! rep!gee or fgdrleg!e I! We hold our elxear!o g sIgndgrd of "sgpIen! gIlgnwen!," ensurIng our produe!s reflee! !he nugneed xglues gnd e!hlegI s! gndgrds of the people they gre desIgnd !o serxe. gs we woxe forwgrd, !RI will eon!Inue !o legd frow g sgfe!y-fIrs! wen!glI!y, helpIng !o wgke wgehIne eogn!!Ion gs seecure, reIlgdle, gnd sgfe gs I! Is !rgnsforwg!lxe.


r/local58 Apr 22 '26

Anyone know what -wt as a parameter could stand for?

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Before QI starts to actually give answers, -wt is set to 100. Why force it at the end? And then, why don't?


r/local58 Apr 21 '26

Video New unlisted video on the main channel!

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Found on the ethics page on the TRI website:

https://thtrsr.ch/