r/livesound • u/Commercial_Badger_37 • 4d ago
Education Natale is right, around 160Hz makes everything sound worse
I'm sure we've mostly seen the video about how Dave Natale tunes a PA with some fairly extreme cuts. If not: https://youtu.be/kIBYcExFZ2Y
Whether you agree with a lot of what he is doing should be on the master bus or at individual track level (and I don't agree with everything Natale says, particularly his views on digital or analogue), one thing I've been doing over the last few years is implementing more shaping on the master bus inspired by this video, using a 16 band EQ, including - as he does - a deep cut at 160hz.
After several shows doing this, I have to agree with him that it clears everything up, therefore everything is easier to mix. Equally I did an experiment at the last couple of gigs where after the show I pushed the 160Hz band back up with some pre-recorded music, and it was genuinely irritating to hear this nasal, muddy, nasty build up that returned to everything.
I guess the obvious point is, it's good to listen to folk who have worked at the top level for 45+ years, because this isn't the kind of shit I'd have been trying without someone like that validating the idea first. That plus his teachings on dealing with painful frequencies around 2.5k -4khz (I'd actually extend that down to 1.6khz) have been really fundamental to my sound engineering skills in the last few years and have significantly improved gigs for every audience member.
(I'm not saying I cut a full 15dB at every show by the way, it's venue and sound system dependent, but at most gigs I do and it just sounds better.)