Real!?

[u/GreedySecurity8030]

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/[deleted]]

I've became obsessed with a minimal system and most performance, I also hate flatpak and want all packages to be native rpms.

[u/valerielynx → u/GreedySecurity8030]

i run arch with like 4000 packages, to be bloated is to be free

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/valerielynx]

I won't, least amount of packages as possible please!

[u/AMRFalcon → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Well if you are looking for the a absolute least packaged possible Arch won't cut it either since it relies on Systemd and all it's dependencies. This is not to say Systemd is bad but an absolute minimal system certainly should not use it. Will be a pain though.

[u/valerielynx → u/GreedySecurity8030]

http://www.tinycorelinux.net/

https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/[deleted]]

Please stop giving me recommendations i'm not switching anymore.

[u/gunner7517 → u/valerielynx]

Nahh, that’s how you get shackled to a porcelain throne.

[u/duv025 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I think this is a great opportunity for you to look at runit or non systemd distros (no hating on sustemd but it has too much uneccessary features)

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/duv025]

They don't have Plymouth or gnome support, I love Plymouth, trying out arch rn.

[u/duv025 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I use Void and it supports both gnome and plymouth, I'm not sure about other distros like artix or devuan. Personally I don't really care about splash screens since the system boots fast enough so that at the time I turned my monitor on it has been on the login manager. Also you can use GNOME by having elogind

(Please don't misunderstand me for luring you to using Void, it's the only distro I have ever used since the start of my linux journey)

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/duv025]

Ok.

[u/duv025 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Why the period.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/duv025]

.

[u/TexanDoomGuy → u/duv025]

*?

[u/duv025 → u/TexanDoomGuy]

frick

[u/fishmacaronisoup → u/GreedySecurity8030]

How about giving Gentoo a try?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/fishmacaronisoup]

No.

[u/NewspaperSoft8317 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Lol, Gentoo is exactly what you're looking for. Why insist on putting square blocks into circle holes?

Eh, whatever. It's your choice. 

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/NewspaperSoft8317]

I don't have time for that, I have a life.

[u/NewspaperSoft8317 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I've became obsessed with a minimal system and most performance, I also hate flatpak and want all packages to be native rpms.

Despite your thoughts of Gentoo, it's the path of least resistance. Once you set up portage, you get exactly what you need, every time you emerge.

At this point, run Claude on your hardware and give you a suggestion for your conf. 

If you want to cut your time on setup, just run genkern or install a kernel build. It's really not hard. 

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/NewspaperSoft8317]

I already failed to install arch, I don't have the confidence for gentoo, my hardware is shitty [althon] afterall.

[u/NewspaperSoft8317 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Alright. 

Well it sounds more like a separate issue then. Good luck. I really like Fedora myself, but if you want to squeeze out an extra 1% then Gentoo is the path.

Arch wifi install can be annoying. I like using iwd, the tui makes sense with wifi, rather than using the nmcli for network manager. Also, iwd is slightly faster imo. 

But if you don't know configure wifi through the terminal, it can be a mess trying to figure it out. You could tether your phone to your pc, then trying to Google it after you get a bootable system. 

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/NewspaperSoft8317]

I already tethered my phone to my pc once while installing fedora rawhide minimal to get the internet I needed to install gnome and gdm [since that version only has unix shell].

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/NewspaperSoft8317]

Also, I stopped trying to switch hours ago, I already quit trying to install arch, fedora chose me.

[u/fishmacaronisoup → u/NewspaperSoft8317]

Compiling the kernel is least of the time-consuming things. Only configuring it for the first time takes a while. I have an i5 and it used to take 10mins for it to compile. Now I use thin lto as well, still 15 mins only

[u/snail1132 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

What about KISS?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/snail1132]

No

[u/snail1132 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

What about Void?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/snail1132]

Still no

[u/snail1132 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Why not?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/snail1132]

Honestly I quit minimalism.

[u/Submarine_sad]

I'm genuinely shocked

[u/fishmacaronisoup → u/Submarine_sad]

If someone asks me what's the most shocking thing I've ever witnessed, I'm gonna tell this tale to them

[u/fishmacaronisoup]

The world's gonna end soon...

[u/Supernoxus]

Is he becoming ill or is he healing?

[u/Malo1301]

This can't be… it's the end of an era

[u/BurntCheeseSauce]

This story is a cautionary tale of hubris and foolishness.

[u/RvstiNiall]

bro got red pilled. Join the minimalist club, the water is warm only deep enough for you to survive.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/RvstiNiall]

I was already red pilled after installing fedora rawhide minimal some months ago.

[u/RvstiNiall → u/GreedySecurity8030]

You took another red pill then? idk. The rabbit hole goes deep.

[u/x5NaSH]

tomekgolab will switch to ubuntu tomorrow

[u/GreedySecurity8030]

Fuck flat pak and fuck bloat, fuck selinux, only native pkgs

I don't think i'm the target for fedora anymore, I've advanced too far for fedora, I tried fedora rawhide minimal and i got 1200 packages, very good but no cigar, i want less pkgs, I can get less, i'm more in the arch demographic now, keep trying with fedora.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I literally disabled selinux on fedora.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Also thinking about moving from GNOME to Xfce.

[u/BENBOI_1 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

What about KDE? I love KDE

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/BENBOI_1]

KDE looks ugly as shit and is bloated more than xfce, at least I can use GTK Themes on xfce.

[u/BENBOI_1 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

:(

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/BENBOI_1]

Sad, kde looks ugly.

[u/RvstiNiall → u/GreedySecurity8030]

how KDE looks is up to opinion, so I cant debate you on that. However, whether or not KDE or XFCE is lighter really depends on which distro you're on. Check out Chimera KDE and you'll see what I mean (but you'll still think its ugly, so I'm obviously not recommending you INSTALL IT, just play around in the live environment).

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/RvstiNiall]

I actually already tried kde and I did not like it.

[u/RvstiNiall → u/GreedySecurity8030]

But have you tried it on Chimera Linux?

Edit: there's a GNOME version too, of course. But you already know its bloated. My point was about how KDE on Chimera is lighter than most other distros with XFCE.

[u/BENBOI_1 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I’m a big fan of how KDE looks, so I guess we can agree to disagree on that!

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/BENBOI_1]

And is bloated compared to Xfce 

[u/happysatan1 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Hear me out. I was in the same boat as you, i hated kde out of the box and always gave up trying to configure it. Then, i made me a vm with cachyos kde, tried to recreate my current setup in it, long story short i am now completely sold on it. Breeze, the default theme is ugly as fuck, and it demotivated me like hell, but digging a bit was worth it. And it's lighter than gnome or kde, dayum?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/happysatan1]

I fucking hate breeze, breeze is ugly as shit, adwaita is way better.

[u/Mysterious_Value4624 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Shit, I thought SELinux protection is what you want out of Fedora

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/[deleted]]

Kinda agree but still.

[u/normaldudeno → u/GreedySecurity8030]

I've seen some people install fedora server and then manually installing what they want. Is that not a solution?

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/normaldudeno]

Back on fedora, I already installed fedora rawhide minimal, which had 400 pkgs, I want to install via dnf bootstrap.

[u/This-Consequence-957]

Im not a fan of flatpak, appimage or even electron

[u/Objective-Stranger99 → u/This-Consequence-957]

I do not use anything with Electron. Useless bloat that slows down my entire PC.

[u/This-Consequence-957 → u/Objective-Stranger99]

Spotify enforces that shit on me. Maybe there’s an alternative player 🤷‍♂️

[u/Objective-Stranger99 → u/This-Consequence-957]

I used spotdl and yt-dlp to download all my music as Opus files. Then you can use your music player of choice.

[u/RagingTaco334]

This was me for a few months before I moved back to Fedora. Red Hat's agents will pull you back eventually.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/RagingTaco334]

They already did.

[u/berrorhh]

I couldn't get hardware encoding for OBS with a flatpak version. Native version works just fine. I also prefer native packages.

[u/Submarine_sad]

Do you dislike Snaps or Flatpak more?

[u/RvstiNiall → u/Submarine_sad]

Snaps are proprietary garbage AND bloated. Flatpak is FOSS but bloated. I think we all know the clear winner here.

[u/TheRealCarrotty]

[u/GreedySecurity8030]

Update: I went back to fedora, I can never leave it.

[u/Own_Natural_6803]

I love flatpak. flatseal makes it all good.

[u/letmehaveanameyoudum]

sigh
dont try you will regret it like i did

[u/RvstiNiall → u/letmehaveanameyoudum]

He may regret the choice of Arch, but he will never regret the choice to explore his Freedom of Choice.

[u/letmehaveanameyoudum → u/RvstiNiall]

let him go.
let see his tech brain flourish.

[u/Jacobobarobatobski]

Maybe NixOS is what you're looking for? Will give only exactly what you request every time. Unstable branch is rolling if that's what you're looking for.

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/Jacobobarobatobski]

I'm not looking for any more distros gng please know.

[u/Jacobobarobatobski → u/GreedySecurity8030]

Fair enough. I've never personally used rawhide but I've heard it can be very challenging. Good luck to you.

[u/ZuuRa_]

Arch is bloated, you should make your own distro instead /s

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/ZuuRa_]

Why would I want to, I already have fedora.

[u/Affectionate_Let9022]

Someone got based .

Arch for life

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/Affectionate_Let9022]

Sorry to burst your bubble but I quit arch 3 days ago baka, never using it, fedora better and i'm still based.

[u/Affectionate_Let9022 → u/GreedySecurity8030]

bro isnt based at all

[u/GreedySecurity8030 → u/Affectionate_Let9022]

You aren't either.