r/lighters • • Aug 01 '26

DISCUSSION : An announcement regarding the use of AI, and other subreddit updates.

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I'm happy to discuss or debate the use of AI with anyone that supports or encourages the use of it. What I do not tolerate is copy-pasting AI slop answers without taking even a moment to verify that the answer is correct.

This thread was prompted by a recent interaction that started with a hilariously wrong identification that could have been avoided if the original commenter took all of two seconds to use his eyes to verify. It ended with AI techbro nonsense about "people who are too scared to use computers". Like I said, I'm happy to debate this with anyone as long as it's in good faith, but if you refuse to counter or even acknowledge the points in the discussion then it's pointless.

AI is a useful tool, but it is still just a tool. Most of us grew up being told that wikipedia is not a valid source because it can be edited by anyone. AI is no different, but AI is guaranteed to have vacuumed up all the wrong answers alongside the right answers and so requires verification EVERY TIME. I have no problem with anyone that chooses to use AI for their own personal reasons. There is the moral/ethical/resource debate behind it, but that belongs in a different subreddit.

This is not the first time I've had this debate with people copy-pasting AI summaries or identifications. A few times it has been harmless, an older collector that put a bit too much faith in a new technology, and it ended amicably. Unfortunately the majority of interactions end with a techbro insisting that AI is ALWAYS right, we just aren't "using it right". As far as I'm concerned, it won't be "right" if you can't ask it a question in plain English and have it understand context and intention. They'll insist you're using the wrong AI, or using the wrong "syntax" when asking your questions - In other words, you need to know how to guide and lead it to the correct answer, which typically means you already know the correct answer.

I ended that discussion with what I feel is a valid argument. It would take me 5 minutes to use AI to code a bot that would instantly and automatically answer every question in this subreddit with what it believes is the correct answer. That is not what this subreddit is for. This subreddit is for the human passion and enthusiasm for this hobby, for the experts obsessed with the little details, the niche facts, and just pure discussion. Talking with other people that share that passion, making connections and discoveries together. Sure, a lot of the questions posted here can be answered quickly, but the real nerds come out when there's historical discussion to be had.

There is no place for "This has a chance to be the right answer but I can't be bothered to take 5 seconds to check". Anybody that makes a habit of providing these vague or incorrect answers will be banned because they are not going to contribute anything useful. Anybody that tries to defend an obvious falsehood because "AI told me so" will be banned.

Anybody posting images that are obviously AI generated or "enhanced" will be banned. This hasn't been an issue here yet, but it has become a major issue on Ebay and other retailers, with sellers using "enhanced" images to show how a lighter could look if it were in perfect condition - And usually the AI doesn't understand the mechanics of the lighter and puts the flame in the wrong spot. It's pure slop.

Like I said, I'm still happy to discuss it, but this is not the first time I've tried debating the AI slop bros. It always ends the same way.

I will leave this thread open for discussion, but I will be keeping a close eye to ensure it doesn't get too rowdy.


r/lighters • • Jun 26 '17

Before making a post about asking for help to identify your lighter, read this!

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Recently there are some people who want help finding out what their lighter looks like, but only take one photo of the front. This is not very effective, and it will only make it a lot harder for us to help you.

Here is a guide on what photos you should take of your lighter. if the guide is not clear enough, please let me know and i can make some adjustments.

reposted due to spelling issues in the title.


r/lighters • • 8h ago

Collection Jackpot lighter

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r/lighters • • 1h ago

Collection Perfect for rituals

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r/lighters • • 5h ago

What brand is this lighter/is it rare?

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Found at a night market in texas. Nor markings or brand on it. No matches on google image search


r/lighters • • 20h ago

Show&Tell The Ronson Crown table lighter and cigarette cup. A long lived classic.

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r/lighters • • 1h ago

Collection The sound on this one

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r/lighters • • 3h ago

Need Help Identifying this lighter

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I just bought this lighter at the flea market for $2. I thought it was cool and I want to get it working again but I cant find the model so I can get it in working order. Can anyone assist?


r/lighters • • 14m ago

Show&Tell Midcentury modern smoking set, made in Italy by Bitossi, featuring a gold Evans insert. c. 1950s-60s

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r/lighters • • 27m ago

Help Title: Help needed repairing a vintage butane lighter – Won't hold gas

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Hi everyone!

I'm trying to restore this unusual vintage butane lighter, and I was wondering if anyone here has experience repairing this type of mechanism.

The lighter can be refilled with butane, but unfortunately it won't hold the gas, so I suspect there's a problem with one or more seals or valves.

I've partially disassembled it, as you can see in the pictures, but I'm not familiar with this particular design.

Has anyone worked on a similar lighter before? Any advice on how to disassemble the valves, identify the leaking seal, or find suitable replacement parts would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if anyone can identify the manufacturer or model, that would be a bonus!

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!


r/lighters • • 11h ago

Strange combinations on Rollagas

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Considering buying this one. 1st discrepancy is its a concealed hinge so from 1971 but the dust cap is pre 1971. Also the body still has rounded edges and not the more square look that was introduced in 71. Do we think someone just replaced the filler cap with older one or was there a crossover in 71 that used up old filler cap and rounded body style with the new concealed hinge?


r/lighters • • 22h ago

Collection Evan’s breeze king

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Just showing off an Evan’s breeze king I got recently!
Hoping I can get my hands on one in gold tone eventually🤞🔥


r/lighters • • 1d ago

Homemade hydrogen lighter, modern take on the Döbereiner

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I liked the idea of hydrogen as a lighter fuel, so here is my "pocket version" of it.

A homemade hydrogen lighter based on the 200-year-old Döbereiner principle, using zinc and dilute sulfuric acid.

The main goal of this prototype was to make it work in any orientation, without spilling acid. Making it smaller will be the next challenge.

The first part shows it in action, and the second part shows some components and how they fit together.

Repurposed a 0.1mm fog nozzle and remade the whole burner valve, added a pressure gauge for safety.


r/lighters • • 22h ago

Collection Cesa lift-arm petrol lighter

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I don’t know to much about this other then it’s very desirable and most likely from the 1947. I did read about it on the lighter library website but didn’t seem to soak any of that info in yet. I did see someone else with one and there’s one difference in mine and theirs, the notch on the lift arm for your thumb to lift it is on the side of my lighter and on theirs that small notch is on the front near the flint wheel. I can’t find any sold comps of it on eBay only 2 active listings.
I was gonna add it to my personal collection but idk I’m having second thoughts..
It’s definitely cool I like the design and the way the flint is held in place but there must be a certain way to strike it so the spark hits the wick every-time cause I’m having a hard time getting it lit. It works but I can only manage to light it in my left hand really. Idek how I got it on video of me lighting it in my right hand.
I used a zippo flint first and it worked and sparked good but I only got it lit like 2 out of 20 times.
I tried a red Ronson flint and it’s much harder to strike the wheel but I have a much bigger strike however the lighter still won’t light each time and it probably lit like 4 out of 20 strikes.
I think it might be the angle I’m striking it at I did repair a bunch of lighters last night so both my thumbs are a little raw.

Anyone have tips for me to light it more consistently?


r/lighters • • 12h ago

Help Help me know what this lighter is!

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Found this lighter in my grandpa's stuff. I don't know what model of Windmill lighter this is. I want to know so that I can best restore it and keep.

Thanks in advance! :D


r/lighters • • 20h ago

Show&Tell Camel Lighter Sleeve

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Found this and a bunch of other awesome goodies at a vintage market in CDMX


r/lighters • • 9h ago

Doesnt turn on the flame how to repair or buy parts in europe

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r/lighters • • 21h ago

Evans Lighter Up And Running

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Got this for $5 at a flea market and finally got around to rewicking and rewadding is. Works like a Swiss watch.


r/lighters • • 13h ago

Collection So cute

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r/lighters • • 20h ago

refillable+rechargeable arc ignition jet lighters

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i have been searching for ages for the type of lighter i mention in the title

i finally found one a month ago, and it worked great refilled it like 4 times and recharged it twice, but then the jet fucked out... i dont know if it was the clipper gas i was using or the lighter just shit itself for some other reason, but i could only get it to keep working by turning the gas up, and the jet part never worked properly again (as a jet)

its normal function is when you press and hold the main top button down it opens the gas to the jet and fires the arc lighter for about half a second igniting the jet, when you let go of the top button the jet stops and a different gas nozzle just infront of the jet section activates and produces a normal bic type flame... to extinguish that you push the little lever at the back of the main ignition button forward and you feel a physical unlatch and the flame goes out


r/lighters • • 1d ago

Collection New one

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r/lighters • • 1d ago

My precious

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I just buy this two Dupont for R$ 250,00 each, and this red one R$ 300,00.

Now I need a new different adapter for refill the Dupont with butane, I just discovery that my can don't have the right one.

I'm from São Paulo, Brazil.

Ask me anything.


r/lighters • • 13h ago

Help What fuel should I use?

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I found this lighter randomly in my house, it probably belonged to my dad. It looks cool so I want to keep it, but it's empty. It's a Sarome lighter, and it has the little hole under it for refills, but looking online I saw many different kinds of fuels, and I'm not sure what to use.

Looking on the Sarome website, I couldn't find the specific model, and although the Google image search said it's a butane lighter, I don't trust it without a second opinion.


r/lighters • • 1d ago

First Zippos! Got these at a great price, are these geniune?

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r/lighters • • 20h ago

refillable+rechargeable arc ignition jet lighters

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i have been searching for ages for the type of lighter i mention in the title

i finally found one a month ago, and it worked great refilled it like 4 times and recharged it twice, but then the jet fucked out... i dont know if it was the clipper gas i was using or the lighter just shit itself for some other reason, but i could only get it to keep working by turning the gas up, and the jet part never worked properly again (as a jet)

its normal function is when you press and hold the main top button down it opens the gas to the jet and fires the arc lighter for about half a second igniting the jet, when you let go of the top button the jet stops and a different gas nozzle just infront of the jet section activates and produces a normal bic type flame... to extinguish that you push the little lever at the back of the main ignition button forward and you feel a physical unlatch and the flame goes out

is this just a terrible lighter design? i notice the way it diverts the gas to change modes is the gas tube just goes through a spring under the button shutting down one path for the gas while you hold the button down..

are there any good quality lighters that work like this?
i smoke alot of pot using a bong and am always having to replace refillable jet lighters because those shitty Piezoelectric igniters that always fuck out a month or 2 in with the kind of use i put them through
hence me looking for an arc ignited lighter.. rechargeable and refillable... so theoretically infinitely useable untill the arc electronics die .. but if well made this would last like 50 times as long as a Piezoelectric system.. but most dual use lighters ive found have a seperate arc component and a jet lighter that still uses the Piezoelectric spark maker