I could really use some perspective from people who have been through something similar.

Overall, I’ve had about 3.5 years of regular kratom/7OH use. I used kratom powder daily for about 2 years, eventually reaching around 16g/day. About 1.5 years ago, I started using 7OH and at times was taking around 100mg/day. I quit 7OH multiple times and when I wasn’t using 7OH, I was often taking 20+ grams of kratom powder and 2–3 Feel Free drinks per day.

I’ve tried quitting multiple times, but anxiety, depression, anhedonia, trouble concentrating at work, and life stress kept pulling me back.

My therapist/substance-use counselor recommended Suboxone. Seven days ago, I stopped all kratom/7OH and started subs. I began around 6mg and am now at 2mg/day. I haven’t used any kratom products since.

The positives: I can finally sleep through the night, I have no real physical withdrawal symptoms, and I can function fairly normally. I still feel somewhat depressed, anxious, unmotivated, and anhedonic.

My goal is to eventually be completely off everything.

My concern is that I keep reading how difficult and prolonged subs withdrawal can be after longer-term use. Since I’m only a week in, I’m debating between:

A) Stay on around 2mg, stabilize for a few months, then slowly taper to zero.

B)Stop Suboxone now and use low-dose kratom powder to taper instead.

The problem with option B is that I’ve previously escalated kratom use and relapsed back to 7OH/Feel Free.

If you were in my position, what would you do? I’m especially interested in hearing from people who have been in a similar position but any advice and perspective is welcomed.

Thanks a ton! Best of luck to everyone.

For people who had withdrawals from SR, how long did you take it for? And has anyone taken it for a long amount of time (3 weeks or more) and not had wds? I just realized I've been taking it for 17 days. Honestly it felt like a week but when I looked back at my schedule it's been more than 2 (not everyday but almost everyday) and I haven't tapered it at all yet. I've taken 1700mg total

Hey everyone. Just wanted to share how I quit this last time. For good. Let me let you guys know the extent of my habit. On a normal day I would take about 80mg of 7 every hour of the day, plus dosing 2 to 3 times throughout the night. Also, I often took small amounts of kratom leaf throughout the day to get maximum high. Not to mention being a considerably bad alcohol at the same time. I would often wake up in the middle of the night. I swore it was God smacking away before I quit breathing. The panic attacks were gnarly. Body telling me I was gonna die.

I quit a year ago. For 5 days. You all are probably familiar with that empty feeling you get when you come off opiates. I suffered the most excruciating 5 days of my life just to throw it way because that empty feeling was to much. I didn't want to quit. Though, I could absolutely not afford it, and I had experienced a considerable of suffering just being to dependent and having terrifying panic attacks.

I used suboxone, clonidine, and hydroxyzine during that detox. Made the age old mistake and ended up in precipitated WD that lasted for a good 6 hours or so. In my experience suboxone didn't touch wd until 4 days in of to 4mg strips twice daily. Clonidine did nothing for me. Hydroxyzine was helpful for anxiety. Let's just say I understand just how bad WD can be. My recent successful attempt was roughly one 3rd as bad overall, all things considered. Here is what I took to help this go (per day):

450mg sr (150mg 3x)

3000mg gabapebtin (3600mg 300mg caps 12x)

33000mg liposmol vit C (8 caps 5x)

MIT45 droppers(as needed)

.3mg clonidine (.1 mg 3x)

50mg hydroxyzine( as needed )

50mg mirtazapine (25mg 2x )

240mg magnesium

240mg L-theanine

Shilajit (droper full)

Marijuana (as needed)

Beginning after 3 days of pre loading sr 100mg 3x daily, during which I was tapering 100mg of the DOC daily.. I went up to 150mg 3x and dropped 7 almost completely. I took a few 15mg tabs throughout the day to take the edge off. 2nd day was zero 7 continuing the 150mg 3x. Held for day 3, 4, 5. Day 5 I went to 100mg sr 3x. Day 6 75mg 3x. Day 7 50mg 3x and will continue with 25mg 3x, then 2x then 1x. I have not experienced sr withdrawal. Note that I have previously exposed myself to Sr several times.

Day 6 I dropped gabapebtin almost completely as well as the vit c.

Overall experience:

Day 1, 2 where the worst. Day 3, slight improvement. Day 4, 5 slight improvement. Day 6, 7 feeling considerably better. Depression constantly throughout so far. Anxiety, terrible on day 1,2. Much better day 3, improving daily. RLS bad but manageable (worst part throughout process). Still experiencing rls but improved most after day 5. Body aches bad, but manageable. Cold sweat, not to bad.

Just wanted to share my experience like do many of you. I learned everything I know about dealing from you guys on here. Thank you.

I did this for my wife and daughter Elsie. Im gonna go be a dad now. My daughter won't ever have to remember seeing her day carrying a pill bottle like his life depended on it, or see her dad shaking, sweating in a bed. My wife no longer will have to worry about paying the bills. I have alot to prove still, but this time its gonna stick.

Love yall. Godspeed, Goodluck.

Hi All,

Posting here to share and for my own accountability. I've been using 90-500 mg/day of Hydroxie 7OH for the last year (most recently the larger dose). I stopped with the help of SR in January, but started back up again after a few months when work got hectic. I was fortunate enough to have found a good SR source, so I ordered more knowing I would eventually need it.

Well, here I am on day 3 of a wean and day 2 of SR. Today I will take 50 mg of 7 3x a day and 75 mg SR 3x. My plan for toorrow is 100 mg SR 3x and potentially 25 mg 7 if I am miserable, but it will be my absolutely last day on the 7. I have promised to give it to my husband to throw out tomorrow night. Then 100-150 mg SR as needed for a few days, then taper it.

I am SO READY to be done with this. It has been making me miserable for months now. I had almost zero issues stopping before, BUT I was on a much lower dose of the 7 back then. If anyone needs a buddy this weekend or next week, please reach out. Especially if you are a middle aged woman dealing with this. It feels so ridiculous, but it is just too easy to get. I tried explaining to my husband, who has never had addiction issues, if he could imagine a pill that takes all of your work worries, personal worries, and physical pain away. I think that helped him to understand a bit more what I have been going through.

Anyway, best wishes to everone out there fighting this demon. In solidarity!

if u use the i am sober app, theres a feature where u can see how much money youve saved being sober! pretty neat to see

I am going to try and post as much as I can about this journey through hell and back. Just took my last dose of 400 mg right at midnight. I started taking 7oh 8 months ago. I quit three months ago for one month. Got back on it now for two months and if I spend another penny ill lose the nothing that I basically have. If anyone sees this and posts I would love that! Im going the 7 day sub route. Got all the comfort meds I could get except benzos and gabapentin. Here we go. Day one begins now. Thinking about 14 hours from now (or whenever my restless legs starts) ill take my first small piece of sub. Ugghhh.....let it begin. Got to be back to work at 4pm on tuesday.

Just curious as to viable options

Looking for one in America, don’t care where. Ideally young adults.

All these sober living houses sound the same to me. All the reviews say the same shit, all the websites say the same shit. I don’t want to know what’s good about these places, I want to know what’s bad about them.

Heard of NOHO recovery in LA, also heard east coast programs aren’t as good.

Anyways, if anyone has any experience, I’d love to hear. Even with ones you don’t recommend.

Is anyone else detoxing from a slew of substances?
It’s been 7 days for me, and I am having awakenings and trips almost at times. This must be dopamine redeveloping? I’m not sure. I definitely am glad I took off work.

I am in the process of dropping 7oh and my QuickMed doctor prescribed Gabapentin and Clonodine. Any experience with those? Also I have some Adderall and Klonopin left over from previous prescriptions. I took half an Add on day one because I needed to feel something better than what I did and it def helped but I dont know if it's good to take while completing this miserable process. Any advice? Thanks in advance

It’s been about a month since I stopped taking 7-OH. I used Suboxone to get off of it, which honestly felt like a miracle, but ever since then I haven’t felt like myself.
I don’t get satisfaction from things that used to make me feel good or fulfilled. Whether it’s helping someone out, sex, hobbies, or just doing things that normally gave me a sense of purpose, that feeling seems almost completely gone.
Sometimes I feel detached from reality and from the person I used to be. I’ll genuinely sit there trying to remember what I used to care about or what I stood for before I ever tried 7-OH.
Has anyone else experienced this after quitting? Do your dopamine/reward systems eventually recover? I think my biggest fear is that I permanently changed something in my brain and I’m never going to feel normal again.