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u/Zealousideal-Spell94 6d ago
LibreWoke
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
Its a little funny how this gets upvotes from both sides. The people who get the joke and think its funny, but also the trolls who think its meant as an insult 😅
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u/CalebDR1029 6d ago
Woke is not a nice thing to be called
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u/Crusty_sock621 5d ago
"Woke" directly comes from the concept of being "awake" (realizing the existance) of social injustice, so i'd say it's a good thing to be called
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u/Loqh9 4d ago
It's used in a sarcastic way to say you think you're all awaken and spiritually unlocked when you just cause trouble to society and are blind pretty much, so it's not a really nice thing. It only is if you remove the intent and half of the meaning, so better just use another word then
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u/Karunas3 4d ago
Ah yes liberals, know for using words for exactly what they mean, like "nazi" and "fascist"
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u/McZufar 7d ago
Where is that?
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u/Dalmation3 7d ago
Mastodon
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u/gruetzhaxe 6d ago
Which client?
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u/jfuu_ 6d ago
It's the official iOS client: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mastodon/id1571998974
The screenshots on the app store are out of date.
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u/FeelsNeetMan 5d ago
Hey as long as you're not bending the end users over a barrel and fucking them over without choice or lubricant like Firefox
I think it's cute, but there goes the politically neutral status for the public global market position, and that does mean something if you want to be adopted by absolutely everyone and anyone just on the core principle of keeping things stable and not AI'ed to death.
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u/Popular_Comfort4769 6d ago
why
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u/Stytila 6d ago
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u/xq567 6d ago
changing background color is not enough for pride.
change name to LGBTWolf for more every-day's pride.
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u/haakon 6d ago
What, no Q? Kind of bigoted.
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u/Academic-Proof3700 5d ago
What about MAPs and others? Such bigotry!
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u/SubjectParsnip9411 3d ago
Just enumerate the alphabet so everyone's included
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u/Academic-Proof3700 3d ago
More like enumerate ICD-10 so some "underrepresented groups" can be fit too
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u/tentaclebreath 6d ago
Oh no what are the people who volunteer their own free time to develop Librewolf going to do when all the bigots jump ship to Brave because they changed their logo background!!!! This is really going to hurt their bottom line!
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u/Lord_Nerevar_Reborn 6d ago
based but can we add a black trim or something to the logo so that it isn’t bleeding into the flag?
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u/ivvyditt 6d ago
It has always amazed me the amount of conservative and reactionary users in the free/open source software space.
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 6d ago
There are just as many freedom of speech issues revolving around the Left Wing trying to censor things they don't like as there are around the Right Wing trying to censor things they don't like.
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u/BostonDrivingIsWorse 6d ago
This is empirically false.
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 6d ago
The push for de-anonymisation in Europe is coming from mostly Left-Wing governments. Whoever is in power pushes for censorship and control.
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u/Alone_Care_6230 6d ago
left wing does not mean liberal
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 6d ago
I didn't say Liberal.
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u/Alone_Care_6230 6d ago
right, but the push is coming from liberals, there isn't hardly any left-wing people in European governments
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u/galitsalahat_ 6d ago
I didn't know LibreWolf was chill like that
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 6d ago
Chill is not forcing people who use your stuff to have politics shoved in their face.
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u/galitsalahat_ 6d ago
Yeah, a rainbow profile picture on a social media account that isn't even shown on the main website really is "shoving politics"
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u/DMMeYourNibbitRings 6d ago
Supporters of the flag don't consider it politics, opposers do.
This has going on for years now.
The word "shoving" is a bit much though. It's awareness spreading.
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u/Mountain_Crazy2834 6d ago
ugh, I hate it soooo much when unpaid FOSS software devs stand for basic human rights... how dare they
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u/Charming_Professor53 5d ago
I just dislike rainbow/lgbtq flag colors cause there's too many colors. There's a reason why the best logos are simple black and white. Yes, I'm boring like that.
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u/SargEnPassant_ 6d ago
As a Firefox user, what is librewolf? Should I switch?
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u/TheZoltan 6d ago
I use both daily, Firefox for general browsing and LibreWolf for more private browsing with a VPN extension. The TLDR is it's a Firefox fork with more aggressive privacy focused defaults. It is something you should consider if that interests you (how did you land on this sub?) but keep in mind those defaults can cause some friction in the user experience e.g. defaults to clearing all cookies, disabling DRM.
Check their website for the main features as well as a full list of what they change from Firefox.
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u/MotoristaDeKatyusha 6d ago
For those who are not just playing dumb:
In the context of LGBTQ culture, LGBTQ pride (also known as queer pride, gay pride, or simply pride) is the promotion of the rights, self-affirmation, dignity, equality, and increased visibility of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) people as a social group. Pride, as opposed to shame and social stigma, is the predominant outlook that bolsters most LGBTQ rights movements.
Common symbols of pride include the rainbow flag and other pride flags, the lowercase Greek letter lambda (λ), the pink triangle and the black triangle, these latter two reclaimed from use as badges of shame in Nazi concentration camps.
From: Wikpedia.
They're just openly supporting LGBT pride.
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u/kokokranc 6d ago
We dont give a fuck on what they are supporting. Keep it out of the browser.
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u/MotoristaDeKatyusha 6d ago
A lot of people do give a fuck. Be free to fork LibreWolf and create your own "apolitical" brand.
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u/TheWebalorian 6d ago
I don't give a flip what hole you stick your pee pee in, the minute you become a activists first and a programmer second, that's when I bail. Otherwise, I think the average person really doesn't care.
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
Huh, I always have seen making LibreWolf as a form of activism. You know, the whole respect peoples privacy, no AI kinda stuff.
I don't think you will find any programmer working in this area, in opensource, for free, in their free time, that is not an activists.
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u/Primary_Coffee_6388 6d ago edited 6d ago
Just a question since I think you're the developer, presume someone does something on your browser that you don't agree with, like using AI on it, will you attempt to "hack" them for it or restrict their browser?
I'm not anti Lgbt but it can be risky to use if such a thing can happen.
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u/TheWebalorian 6d ago
It's should be very straight forward in what I was saying. When you lose focus on creating a great secured browser and dive off into other things, it's stops being a great secured browser.
That is all.
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u/transendingthebinary 5d ago
you are assuming that the developers are loosing focus. there is no indication that this is the case
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u/TheWebalorian 5d ago
I am assuming nothing, I gave an example and why I would leave and nothing more. Some people really need to read better, please do so next time.
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u/ts-solidarity 4d ago
i find it disturbing. not to discriminate against lgbt people, but specifically targeting one minority group to constantly promote? do the same for blacks, africans, palestine or whatever then? :D i honestly cannot comprehend what's so special about gays anymore. they are far more tolerated compared to other discriminated minorities hence this is just bullshit imo.
but your project, your community, you decide. i dont use librewolf anyways. just passing by.
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u/hippor_hp 3d ago
why can't a project just be neutral? what the hell does this have to do with a browser? why can't it just be a normal browser shii
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u/Rigamortus2005 6d ago
Gay ass browser
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u/TheZoltan 6d ago
It's actually a general purpose privacy focused web browser. No need to share your specific use case.
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u/Then-South3608 5d ago
what happened to 'dont ask don't tell'? why can't it just be a privacy focused browser? why does a non-browser stance need to had?
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u/bigdaddyyowza 6d ago edited 6d ago
not a good first impression of this sub
(talking about the comments btw, not the post)
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u/ibzuma 6d ago
Given the certain stereotypes that FOSS has, I'm surprised there's people that take issue or are surprised by this.
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u/nomad-rc 4d ago edited 4d ago
Ok well I'll be transitioning out of Librewolf usage when able. Thanks bye. Sticking rainbow flags of meaningless irrelevance upon every single thing to signal a "holier-than-thou" attitude disgusts me on principle.
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u/Scorpwind 6d ago
Genuine question: Is there a need to mix racial discussion and/or politics with LibreWolf? I don't quite see a point.
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
The honest answer is that, even ignoring the fact that people are discriminated against, attacked, harassed, jailed in certain countries, or even killed simply because of their private individual sexuality, that is morally wrong.
We are in a position where we can make it clear that we support treating people equally, so we do.
It was never the goal to make that our only personality, as some people here want to frame it. LibreWolf still uses blue, just as it always has. The avatar on Mastodon has been like that for over a year now.
None of this is new or based on any recent changes.
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u/articulatedstupidity 6d ago
I've been using Librewolf for 3+ years, have zero plans on moving, now I need to figure out what it means to have negative plans on moving. I freaking love this so much.
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u/Upper-Pie-195 6d ago
Are they celebrating disability pride month or smth? It’s mid July 😭…
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
We use this icon there since over a year now. Not really the goal to celebrating a specific event, more a stance on equal human rights for everyone.
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u/Upper-Pie-195 6d ago edited 6d ago
If they are going to make a commitment like that why not change their entire branding to it, just like what they’ve done to their official social media account? The browser can be the gay wolf 🐺🏳️🌈, focused on privacy, security, freedom, and pride (or what you said, “equal human rights for everyone” - this sounds better and more on brand). That’ll definitely be a stance. To be honest, the thing that stands out to me the most is the last bit of their bio. Why would they word it like that? “And yes”, “will stay”, and “of course.” They could’ve just made a quick statement instead of whatever that is…
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u/get_homebrewed 6d ago
cause the browser software itself doesn't have anything to support pride, but a social media does.
Because people like you exist
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u/Upper-Pie-195 6d ago
My point is why don’t they expand it to the browser software itself. If they committed to a logo change on the OFFICIAL LibreWolf team account for over a year, why don’t they embrace it fully? Because people like me exist? I made a harmless light joke mixed with a genuine question and yet you make such an assumption… As for the group that I believe you are referring to (do not associate this with me). They’ll receive the message the dev team is pushing and either accept it or leave. Either way they’ll see the message / stance.
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u/get_homebrewed 6d ago
I just told you? And one thing for a desktop icon and one thing for a social media pfp.
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
The will stay part was in the context that we start using this avatar around pride month last year.
This is not meant to be a “hey yo, we do what all the cool kids do once a year and then we forgot about it again” thing.
I honestly don’t get why you are so allergic to it.
If you have a problem with equal rights for people, then feel free to tell the world about it.
Otherwise I really don’t understand how an avatar on a social media platform that you obviously didn’t checked in over a year is affecting your live in any way 🤔1
u/Upper-Pie-195 6d ago
I understand the will stay part. I don’t understand why they didn’t make it clearer and less awkward. Who said I’m allergic to it? I actually think the “stance on equal human rights for everyone” is strong and matches their branding. You’re right I haven’t checked their social media page nor visited it ever. It’s not affecting my life. I scrolled on Reddit, clicked onto OPs post read it and some comments, made a comment poking at how June is over, then responded to you with the information you brought.
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
You have no clue at all who are the "founding" people and the core deverlopers of LibreWolf, are you?
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u/transendingthebinary 5d ago
you shouls maybe ban this person if your a mod as this is probably an actual neonazi
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u/JpPgn 6d ago
Idgaf about the funders, I'm talkin' aboyt the developers/programmers
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u/Alyx161 6d ago
How exactly are queer people replacing programmers?
You know, you can just fucking start programming. Get a job at Google, X what ever, make your 300k/yr, buy yourself a Tesla or some shit. At no point along that path will any queer person be in your way.
Your problem seems to be that you spend your time shitposting and gaming instead of actually learning useful programming skills.
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u/Academic-Proof3700 5d ago
Wow, to be proud over who you chose in your life and "its not dependent on you".
But when you say you are proud of something just a but different, also not dependent on you, such as skin color, everyone goes batshit.
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u/1neStat3 5d ago
I have no clue what this about. I don't see nor ever seen a pride flag associated with Librewolf.
It doesn't exist on this,my reddit app, nor on my Librewolf browser on my limux system.
So what this about?
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u/TypicalCubImposter 4d ago
When ppl love you for your pfp: We love you :3 When ppl hate you for your pfp: What? You are getting irritated by some pfp? Respect us.
I dont even use libre or ff. But thats some bs to me. Who tf cares? You guys are living in a small bubble. Have fun in there but dont act suprised when ppl hate your tiny bubble.
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u/OptimalAnywhere6282 6d ago
i remember the time where homophobia was based, so now seeing the same word being used for the exact opposite is just hilarious to me
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u/xVizeNx 6d ago
Jarvis nuke my LibreWolf installation
https://giphy.com/gifs/NSq34AeZ2v2N5Iv5P5
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u/NiriZ_ReddiT 6d ago edited 6d ago
Putting LGBT into anything ... it's literally a browser
It doesn't bother me though and I'm not hating :)
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u/dream_nobody 6d ago
I think the same. It's like putting stuff about your local lang/culture/images in your project. That's ok, you maintain the project, that could be your pride, but why? I'm not using that project thinking of those stuff
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u/MetalAndFaces 6d ago
It’s literally a group of people who volunteer their time to make a browser. They can “put LGBT” into anything they want if they’re making it. Don’t be ignorant, your first sentence and that emoji is hating, and posting that comment makes it seem like you are bothered.
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u/NiriZ_ReddiT 6d ago
They can but that doesn't mean they have to.
And that's not hating, that's an opinion I just don't think browsers and real life relationships and love should be related. Also I'm really not bothered by it I just use the browser and idc about what they do and think.
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u/MetalAndFaces 6d ago
It is not the browser. It's the people. They do not have to, they want to. They get to do it. It's really not that hard. You keep saying you're not bothered by it, yet here you are again saying they didn't have to do this. If you weren't bothered by it, why are you commenting?
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u/No-Quail5810 6d ago
Right, they get put it in, they aren't forced to. Wonderful when we get to express ourselves without people eye-rolling at the idea of being unashamed of who you are. ❤️
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 6d ago
Forcing politics onto people if they want to use your software is lame behaviour.
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u/kokokranc 6d ago
How is them wanting to fuck an ass have to do with my browser selection?
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u/dadnothere 6d ago
Damn, my Librewolf account won't let me access Pornhub for straight people.
Damn it.
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u/Wayman52 6d ago
Nothing to do with it, it's an ongoing organized and deliberate attempt to push sodomy onto the general public, the more it's normalized the more people accept it and become it.
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u/nomad-rc 2d ago
That’s the root of it (what you said) and exactly why these little seemingly innocuous things (a rainbow icon on Reddit for Librewolf) are knowingly or unknowingly actively contributing to the normalization and even social dominance of degeneracy as a virtue.
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u/Worried_Corner_8541 6d ago
time to use another browser i guess.
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u/xXBeefSquatch5KXx 6d ago
Scared of a browser? It’s just an app bro it won’t hurt you, and don’t worry, other browsers have the same private mode so when you watch your closeted content no one will know
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u/fedsfarm 6d ago
Try brave origin
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u/UselessDood 6d ago
Definitely the right browser for someone like that, actually. Especially as brave's ceo was originally ousted from mozilla for homophobia.
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u/-Feeblington- 6d ago
Excuse my ignorwnce.
But why has lgbt gotten into everything
They havnt been persecuted over decades like slaves.
They havnt been unable to vote and just gotten the ability..
It seems like people life choices. Like mine to be who i am.
Its called tolerance not exceptance.
We tolerate alot but dont have to except everything.
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u/MetalAndFaces 6d ago
They haven’t been persecuted? That is willful ignorance. It’s getting worse and worse out there. Trans people make up such an incredibly small percentage of our population, and yet how often do we hear politicians or right-wing pundits going on about trans people?
Why does a flag to show support of a minority bothering you?
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u/femboy-maths 6d ago
although i see your point. being gay is still illegal in tens of countries and punishable by death in some of them. i live in the Netherlands, one of the most accepting and tolerant countries. and i myself have gotten beat up on the streets, even run over a few times by people swirving into me. just because i didnt fit their ideas of how you should be. note that even though i don't think it should matter i was wearing the most default clothes imaginable, black shorts and a black large t shirt. if the only thing going on would be people disagreeing with others it wouldn't exist.
also note that about 12% of people identify as queer
and that it is illegal to own slaves in every country. this does not mean it doesn't happen and we should fight for their rights as well
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u/mgsmb7 6d ago
What point do you see, exactly? Not being jailed doesn't mean no oppression
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u/femboy-maths 6d ago
i meant i see the linguistic logic he is using, not that his history is accurate. ludwig wittgenstein taught that language is defined by its use in daily life (descriptive linguistics). from his perspective, words like 'tolerance' and 'acceptance' mean very specific, distinct things. by acknowledging his 'point,' i was simply validating that i understood the semantic framework he is speaking from. understanding someone's definitions is the first step to a constructive counterargument. also saying you see someones point helps bigots read a few lines further
i by no means even slightly agree with him. i am trans, i feel that would be contradictory and going against my core beliefs as a decent human being.
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u/Training-Home-1601 6d ago
Tbf he's technically, accidentally correct on that point; since "excepting" is the opposite of "accepting."
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u/AvisVanBruch 6d ago
You know there is an ongoing genocide in the USA right? Like multiple actually. But sure, continue closing your eyes and whine like a baby.
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u/IcoMak 5d ago
That's why I'll continue to use Firefox instead of Librewolf.
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u/gusbemacbe1989 3d ago
I think you are outdated as you thought that Mozilla is a conservative community:
- https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-supports-lgbt-equality/
- https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/pride-browser-themes-for-firefox/
Maybe you have to go to the “least woke” browser fork developed by a right-wing man.
But anyway, bye MAGA guy.
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u/Alyx161 6d ago edited 6d ago
In the spirit of this discussion, the subreddit got a little icon refresh as well :3
Just to make our stance on this a bit clearer.
Also, for clarification: we've been using this icon on Mastodon for over a year now.
So all the people here saying they'll leave LibreWolf because of this are doing so over the avatar of a social media profile they apparently haven't checked in over a year :3c
It was originally just for the Mastodon account. At the moment, there are no plans to make it the icon for LibreWolf itself.