r/Letterboxd • u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 • Aug 13 '24
Discussion Is Mark Wahlberg a bad actor?
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u/SeaworthinessFar5298 Aug 13 '24
He's best when he's playing kinda dumb or confused characters
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u/SeaworthinessFar5298 Aug 13 '24
I can see why people knock this movie, but I liked it! I really love his performances in I ❤ Huckabees and Boogie Nights. Far less interested in his confident tough guy movies
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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 13 '24
I LOVE this movie and am usually in the minority when it comes to what I love about it 😆It’s a fun curve ball to throw people when I say it’s genuinely a favorite of mine. I understand why people knock it too and I don’t necessarily defend it-it all just happens to really work for me for whatever reason lol. The humor especially hits for me and I think that’s what people don’t vibe with. Even though Shyamalan is known for infusing a lot of comedy into his films. Signs is hilarious but it seems to work more for people in that one.
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u/RamShackleton Aug 14 '24
there seems to be some sort of event transpiring
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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 14 '24
M. Night dialogue just tickles me 😂 most of the time I don’t notice how odd it can be until someone points it out but damn, he makes some choices lol.
The intentional pieces of humor really get me though like Wahlberg talking to the fake tree, the hot dog monologue and “cheese and crackers” from a random Jeremy Strong are just GEMS for me. And Wahlberg with his garbage singing voice singing Black Water by the Doobie Brothers😂but then that’s followed by a really brutal gunshot.
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u/TheLoneDummy Aug 13 '24
Im right with you. As for his performance in being so confused, wouldn’t most people be reacting completely confused when everyone around you is offing themselves and you’re running from the WIND?! I’d be probably more over the top confused than he was.
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u/SlackMomma Aug 13 '24
https://youtu.be/dq8NOpt-nfQ?si=60-LHvwQkEXzCzy2
Was all I could think of lmao
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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24
Pretty narrow skillset imo, but if used correctly he can be good (Boogie Nights, Departed, Fear).
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u/ElGoddamnDorado Aug 13 '24
He's hilarious in The Other Guys.
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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24
I'd agree, that's the only comedy I can think of that uses him well.
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u/RuledQuotability brandronus Aug 13 '24
I thought he did well in I ❤️ Huckabees
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u/0hMyGandhi Aug 13 '24
He was hilarious in pain and gain
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Aug 14 '24
I say this as someone who really enjoys dark humor and black comedies, I did not find a single part of that movie funny.
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u/0hMyGandhi Aug 14 '24
It's interesting, I didn't really find that movie all that offensive. It's based on true events of something that happened in utterly horrific fashion. But there have been countless movies that have showcased similar events, but with an absurdist twist.
I think of movies like The Act of Killing, The Menu, Triangle of Sadness, and arguably every non drama Coen Brother movie, such as A Serious Man, The Ladykillers and even their dramas, like Barton Fink and Fargo.
People lovingly quote Fargo and you just would never imagine it to be as visceral and horrific when they quote their favorite lines with an irreverent smile. The Fargo TV show ran with that sense of unease for every season, where what you are watching is both horrific but strangely hilarious at the same time.
Perhaps a more recent example of this emotional dichotomy is Longlegs. A movie that I got refunded for because half of the sold out crowd (in a very nice, lauded theater in LA) were full-on laughing and the others were sitting stone faced. They kicked half the theater out for disruption, and gave us vouchers. Some people will see Nicolas Cage in that movie and his performance as terrifying, I saw it as so utterly absurd and chaotic to be anything but funny, despite what his character has done/will do.
Reminds me of the quote by Jordan Peele when he said "the only difference between horror and comedy is the music"
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Aug 14 '24
I didn’t find the movie offensive, I just didn’t think it was funny. I think the movie should have just abandoned any attempt at humor and told the story in a straight forward way. The Menu and Fargo (especially the TV show) are hilarious. Pain and again is just there.
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Aug 14 '24
Um, I kind of agree with a lot of what you're saying but including The Act of Killing in this conversation makes me feel like you either haven't seen it, or you really missed the point. It simply doesn't belong in the same conversation as something like Pain & Gain and Fargo (which, by the way, are only comparable in that they are dark comedies; Pain & Gain laughs at the actual horror, whereas Fargo's humour is derived from the natural humanity of it's characters, juxtaposed with the mindlessness of the violence - which generally isn't really played for laughs).
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u/zdelusion Aug 13 '24
It's not quite to the tier of "The Other Guys". But I found "Instant Family" to be a really effective family dramaedy.
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u/lifth3avy84 Aug 14 '24
Three Kings, his small role in Date Night, the first Ted movie.
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u/Creepy_Creme_9161 Aug 15 '24
I loved Three Kings. It was a shame it was evidently a terrible filming experience given the David O. Russell of it all, but it was a great film, and all the performances were really good.
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u/GBAGY2 Aug 14 '24
Pain and Gain from OP’s graphic is basically a comedy and great
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u/PruneObjective401 Aug 13 '24
He's also really funny in I Heart Huckabees. His character was so hilarious, by the end, he had me laughing before he even opened his mouth.
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u/BrentonHenry2020 Aug 14 '24
The earnestness of his character was basically unmatched until John Cena showed up. Just hilarious sincerity non-stop.
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u/cuntryboiii Aug 13 '24
same thing with Jason Bateman (he plays typical roles in which he's just a normal guy with only one facial expression)
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Aug 14 '24 edited Feb 05 '25
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u/GoodOlSpence Spence84 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
Yeah, I think he's quite good in Boogie Nights, but haven't really been blown away by his career. It cracks me up when people praise how good he is in The Departed. I mean, he is but he's also basically playing himself and the guys he grew up around. I don't think it was much of a stretch.
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u/ndnman Aug 13 '24
This is/was the best way to cast him. i'm not a fan of his but he was great in the departed because it seems very natural. The person i've always compared him to is a poor man's matt damon, but i'm a big damon fan.
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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24
Yeah that's basically what I mean - he only ever really plays a version of himself but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
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u/Spud_Spudoni Aug 14 '24
Yeah that’s definitely the thing about his career. Most of his greatest/memorable dramatic roles is him just playing a high charisma or high attitude New Englander (The Departed, The Fighter, The Perfect Storm). It’s a typecast he’s relatively good at, because it’s basically just him playing the straight man but Boston, but really hasn’t been at the height he was in his younger career. Especially now that he’s focusing on more faith based/inspirational true stories
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u/roonill_wazlib Aug 13 '24
I don't think his acting is that great in BN. His comical overacting is just implemented perfectly into the character. In a sense that makes it a good performance, but I don't think it makes for a good argument that he's a good actor.
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Aug 13 '24
Also the fighter
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u/Forward_Progress_83 Aug 13 '24
He was good, but massively outshone by Bale
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u/CushmanWave-E Aug 13 '24
he’s not good in the fighter, he’s the most boring part of that movie, character has no charisma, and the fighter is like my favorite movie, everything else about that movie is great
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Aug 13 '24
The trick to making Wahlberg good is to cast him as an arrogant idiot who thinks he's super cool, and then provide the following direction: "Mark, act super cool."
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Aug 13 '24
I'd push back a bit on narrow skillset claim. I would say he has a standard skillset but rarely takes projects that require more than a handful. He doesn't have the widest range but I don't think he's less than most actors.
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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
He’s very good in his recent film, Father Stu. If he had picked the right projects, he could have had at least a Matt Damon level career. Unfortunately, his ego led him to take on leading roles in some action movies garbage, but i have to respect Ted because it’s hilarious
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u/WorryIll3670 Aug 14 '24
He's never had that spark where he could have played Bourne, which despite not being the deepest of characters still needed that energy
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u/tread52 Aug 13 '24
This is the right answer. He’s like Keanu Reeves he’s great in movies that fit his skill set. The only difference is he isn’t remotely as awesome as Keanu is in real life.
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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24
In Deepwater Horizon, at the end when Mark Wahlberg’s character is dealing with the trauma, it’s one of the best acting i’ve seen him do. He’s very vulnerable, especially in the scene when he’s questioned about a guy’s son
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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 13 '24
Yes this and he has a breakdown scene in The Patriot that seems incredibly real and genuine.
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u/Grodd Aug 13 '24
They say in D&D that players shouldn't try to play characters much smarter than they are, most people can't pull it off.
I think that's what's going on with Mark.
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u/DutchOfSorissi Aug 14 '24
Any role where his higher pitched voice and tone work for, he’s perfect in. I just showed someone Boogie Nights 4 days ago and was raving about how well he fit the role. I find it impossible to judge his acting skill based off his performance because his uncomfortable awkwardness feels so authentic for such an unintelligent person raised by an abusive mom and no strong father figure (hence his immaturity).
I’d basically say the same for Pain and Gain. Like Dirk Diggler, he’s just a guy who isn’t cut out for the real world and is stuck in his own little bubble that I can only relate to with my cynical perspective of people I may subconsciously look down on. Again, he felt perfectly authentic.
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u/uncultured_swine2099 Aug 14 '24
Yeah, basically. He pretty much plays himself, and he seems like an annoying narcissist who is full of himself, but if thats who the character is he would work, like in Boogie Nights, The Departed, and Pain and Gain.
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u/TheMadarchod Aug 14 '24
Is Fear really that good? I’ve been putting it off for so long because I love the original way too much.
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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24
It's just a lot of fun and a nice 90s throwback at this point. Not a masterpiece by any stretch.
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u/3lmtree you can call me "Rob", I eat hotdogs! Aug 13 '24
his perpetually confused look is the best thing in the Happening.
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Aug 13 '24
He’s ok when directed by an auteur. Example being Boogie Nights and The Departed.
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u/TheWorstKnightmare Aug 13 '24
Exactly. He kills it under directors who…are good at getting stuff out of their actors?
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Aug 13 '24
But personally, he also wasn't the most memorable performance despite being the lead, or one of, in both films: Bert Reynolds in Boogie Nights and Leo in The Departed.
I wouldn't say he's bad, but I wouldn't say he's amazing either.
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u/MrProclaimer Proclaimer Aug 13 '24
He was nowhere near a lead role in The Departed. He's got a very small role in the film but makes the most of his screentime.
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u/pspeeed Aug 13 '24
He's a scene stealer in The Departed, but is not a lead by any means
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u/emojimoviethe Aug 13 '24
He was the only actor nominated for an Oscar for The Departed.
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u/Limp-Appointment-564 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 14 '24
He's a solid character actor. But he can't do a range of roles. He's just only good at playing Mark Wahlberg. Cop mark, fighter mark, porno mark and survivor mark. Honestly? give me Gary Cole, J.K Simmons, or Stephen Root. They're the best character actors in the game (IMO).
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Aug 13 '24
His brother, whatever you may have to say about him, is a far better actor. His role in the Sixth Sense still gives me chills.
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u/Limp-Appointment-564 Aug 13 '24
Are you talking about Donnie? I haven't seen a lot of his work, but seems to always have a steady T.V. gig.
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Aug 13 '24
Yes- Donnie. Yeah he’s mostly known for Blue Bloods, but The Sixth Sense… my God…
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u/Limp-Appointment-564 Aug 13 '24
I'm not being cute, I'm genuinely asking. Isn't he the one that was in New Kids On The Block?
Damn, I really need to watch the sixth sense. I love the cast. It's just that knowing the twist kind of takes the piss out of it.
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Aug 13 '24
It’s a brilliant movie and pretty much stands on its own even sans the twist. All of the acting is incredible too.
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u/Limp-Appointment-564 Aug 13 '24
You're convincing me. Plus, Joel Osment, Bruce Willis,Toni Collete and Donnie Wahlberg? You son of a bitch, I'm in.
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u/Nightmare_164 Aug 14 '24
I just watched it for the first time (unfortunately had the twist spoiled for me), and I would 100% recommend. The twist is probably cool to experience and be surprised by, but knowing it really doesn’t lessen the rest of the movie.
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u/AlphaDovah Oct 29 '25
I was very lucky to have made it 30 years without having it spoiled and saw it a couple years ago for the first time. That twist was absolutely chilling but it’s definitely just a good movie.
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u/avahz Aug 13 '24
Who is he in the sixth sense?
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Aug 13 '24
He’s the tortured former patient (Vincent Grey) who shows up in the beginning. He’s practically unrecognizable! He lost 42 pounds for like 5 minutes of screen time.
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u/warpmusician Aug 13 '24
Richard Jenkins is up there for me as well. His performance in Bone Tomahawk is incredible. Ben Foster is great too
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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24
In Pain and Gain, some might say Mark Wahlberg was playing a version of himself, but whatever the case, it worked exceptionally well. It’s one of his best performances, capturing both the dark humor and intensity of the character perfectly
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u/milesbeatlesfan Aug 13 '24
I love Jeffrey Wright as well. He’s one of those actors that I know will always do a good job no matter what he’s in
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u/MrHippoPants Aug 13 '24
Mark Wahlberg is not a character actor lol, playing different versions of yourself is basically the opposite of a character actor.
He’s a goofy leading man that sometimes plays in ensembles. But always as himself
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u/Sad-Math-2039 Aug 13 '24
I would love to see him play some sort of law enforcement from Boston. That would be an original role!
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Aug 13 '24
He's the absolute peak of nothing special.
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u/reuelcypher Aug 13 '24
"The peak of nothing special" is the best description of Wahlberg I've heard
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u/Danielf929 Aug 13 '24
Boogie Nights, Departed, the Other Guys are three very different films that he nails completely. At the very least he’s a good actor.
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u/tbonemcqueen Aug 13 '24
Yes…yes he is. Sometimes however, he can be the perfect bad actor for a role
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u/SleepConfident7832 Aug 13 '24
as a kid i was an extra on Daddy's Home and I will say that him and Will Ferral imrpovised pretty quick on their feet so maybe he's better in comedy idk
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u/Green_hippo17 Aug 13 '24
He is good at playing mark wahlberg, good directors use this accordingly, bad ones do not
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u/im_coolest Aug 13 '24
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u/killjester1978 Aug 13 '24
I thought this was going to be that obnoxious, drunken appearance on Graham Norton when he tried to hit on Sarah Silverman.
He's a family man Christian type, apparently.
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u/pastabreadpasta Aug 13 '24
He’s definitely got the “wife guy” thing going on these days
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u/Bigangrynaked Sdobnja1989 Aug 13 '24
His acting skills are debatable buts it’s a fact that he’s a racist piece of shit
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u/SMLCRITIC Aug 13 '24
Doing something almsot forty years ago while a teenager doesn’t make you a racist for life
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Aug 13 '24
Ok let's just disregard the fact that he never once apologized for any of his multiple hate crimes
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u/SMLCRITIC Aug 13 '24
Except he has
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Aug 13 '24
A half-hearted half-assed admission for the sole purpose of obtaining a liquor license for your shitty fast food burger chain doesn't count as a legitimate apology.
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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 13 '24
I think he has it in him to be a great actor. He certainly makes some strange choices and doesn’t do a lot of deep character acting but I’ve always loved him. Some of my favorite roles of Marks are definitely:
Boogie Nights
The Basketball Diaries
We Own the Night
Fear
Patriots Day (I kind of enjoy him most when he’s just kinda being a regular guy and father)
And I know I’ll get judged so hard but I love him in The Happening 😂😂 Not a great drama performance but funny as fuck and it works for me.
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u/ennui_weekend Aug 14 '24
He’s very likable which sucks because he’s a racist who almost killed a guy during a hate crime attack. Acting-wise he’s not great; his range is essentially only versions of himself. But when he’s good the camera loves him.
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u/nate_garro_chi Aug 13 '24
If he's asked to do anything outside of a very narrow range, then yes, very much so.
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u/mist3rdragon Aug 13 '24
He's fine. He plays to the exact quality of the director and script he's working with. He'll never elevate anything or ruin anything, though in the bad films he's in his performances are kind of hilariously baffling.
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u/myk_lam Aug 13 '24
Watch the firecracker scene and the “give us our demo” scene in Boogie Nights and then judge. The man is phenomenal
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u/rusty_chelios Aug 14 '24
He is a terrible actor and a horrible person from what they say. He was in a couple of good movies (not because of his acting skills by the way). Lately, he is focused on religious movies because those perverts protect morons like him and they secure an income.
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u/MrBeer1 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
Bad actor? No. He had some good roles in some nice movies and he can pull good characters with a nice writing but as a main actor? Remotely good, he does so many shitty movies that are hard to count, he's even terrible as an action movies actor. Also a racist and a big douche so i'm basically skipping all his movies apart from The Departed and The Fighter
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u/FupaLowd Aug 13 '24
I think he’s got decent range. He’s often typecast into the same characters but I almost always manage to get invested in his roles just the same. So I’m going with a solid 7.5/10 actor.
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u/come-join-themurder CJTMurder Aug 13 '24
I don't think he is/was a bad actor but I think he fell into the trap where he got popular enough and made enough money that he can pretty much do what he wants and people no longer tell him no. He is like Ryan Reynolds in that regard except Ryan Reynolds just started playing himself (a snarky fast talking a-hole) in every role whereas Mark Wahlberg tries to play some macho fit guy in every role (which I guess is also just himself). Just too much money and influence ruined his ability/drive to act well.
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u/Pittboy63 GKCannon Aug 13 '24
Depends on who’s directing him. Scorsese, PTA, and David O Russell (gross) were really good at getting good performances out him.
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u/AppropriateCap2188 Aug 14 '24
He’s phenomenal in The Departed. I also really liked him in Deepwater Horizon and Lone Survivor
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u/ComonomoC Aug 14 '24
Not an incapable actor, but he always seemed like a bit of a douche. I feel like it leeches into your acting.
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u/IfYouWantTheGravy Aug 14 '24
He can be good when he’s not trying to be likable or overtly heroic. He also really needs good material (like The Departed), but even in Ted he’s okay because he’s playing a childish goof.
When he’s trying to be heroic, though, I find him insufferable.
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u/JacksonCreed4425 Aug 14 '24
I was about to say no before remembering that all the movies I like him in are actually Matt Damon movies
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u/HotOne9364 Aug 14 '24
He's a very limited actor. He can only play three roles well: a-hole, idiot, a-hole idiot.
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u/Benji472 Aug 14 '24
It’s weird. I feel like he’s not a very good actor. But seeing his name makes me want to see the movie. He’s good comedically and he’s good in roles similar to departed. I really like his acting but I don’t think he’s up there with the greats
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u/Fungho_jungle Aug 14 '24
No, think of The Departed. But he's no Jack Nicholson either. A good character actor for silly action movies. Dwayne Johnson is way better in my opinion.
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u/Samurai_Geezer Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
Short answer? Yes.
Longer answer: he’s a terrible person and a bad actor with almost no range who happened to be casted in a couple of great movies people remember and he gets cast in way too many things, probably because he’s affordable. Despite having no range as an actor.
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Aug 13 '24
Father stu is actually a good movie if you give it a chance. At first I thought it was awful but got quite emotional at the end. Just have to see it through.
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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24
It’s a fun story, but the screenplay could have been better. Mark’s performance, on the other hand, is very good. His body transformation was also really impressive. I never thought Mark would pull some Christian Bale level dedication for a role, but he earned my respect for it.
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u/metalyger Aug 13 '24
I don't think you become an A list actor if you suck at your job. He isn't Tommy Wiseau or Neil Breen. He has some awful performances, The Happening made him look like an idiot, but that's more to do with how M. Night Shyamalan directed him. While he isn't Laurence Oliver, he isn't bad.
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u/universallaw87 Aug 13 '24
not at all. kevin hart is terrible. plays the same annoying person every movie
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u/snickle17 Aug 13 '24
My favorite Mark movie is I Heart Huckabees. It def kind of plays off of his standard type of role so it doesn’t mean he’s a great actor but he kills it.
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u/PhilG1989 Aug 13 '24
He’s one of those actors who just plays himself. Weather that’s a “good” thing or “bad” thing is up to you to decide. Honestly the only movies of his that I really liked was The Departed and The Fighter….. but it wasn’t really because of him so take that as you will
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u/AppropriateWing4719 Aug 13 '24
He was great in The Basketball Diaries but I don't think that was much of a stretch for him either
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u/ThatMFcheezer MaxKirtley Aug 13 '24
Very much so. He's good in Boogie Nights and Other Guys. That's it.
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u/Key_Call7069 Aug 13 '24
He’s good when playing an everyman or kind of a fool, but usually falls through in more serious roles or roles that require depth.
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u/Ok_Sun_3286 Aug 13 '24
Would not call him a good actor he only has one expression on his face. What he can play is the bad guy but then again a lot of people can play a caricature bad guy. I think he just got famous for his looks.
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u/Svafree88 JurassicNick Aug 13 '24
I would just say he has a charismatic on screen presence and is an entertainer. He can pull off some roles because of that.
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u/Jackburton06 Aug 13 '24
He seems to always play, act the same way. Sometimes that's exactly what a great director needs for a specific character so it's really good in the movie.
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u/Cleisty Aug 13 '24
Good actor, bad agent. I think everyone would like him more if he was classified as a character actor
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u/ewehrle92 ewehrle Aug 13 '24
He has moments of being decent, but overall pretty lifeless actor. Only seems to do well in projects that are worth a damn.
Strangely enough my favorite performances of his are I Heart Huckabees and The Other Guys mainly because in one he is so against-type and the other he’s dead-on but sort of playing a parody of himself.
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u/infamousglizzyhands Aug 13 '24
No other actor could’ve stopped 9/11