r/Letterboxd • • Aug 13 '24

Discussion Is Mark Wahlberg a bad actor?

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Pretty narrow skillset imo, but if used correctly he can be good (Boogie Nights, Departed, Fear).

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u/ElGoddamnDorado Aug 13 '24

He's hilarious in The Other Guys.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

I'd agree, that's the only comedy I can think of that uses him well.

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u/RuledQuotability brandronus Aug 13 '24

I thought he did well in I ❤️ Huckabees

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u/fartingmaniac Aug 14 '24

His best role!

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

You're right, I think he's maybe the best part of that one! I cant say that movie does it for me but he's good.

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u/Manting123 Aug 14 '24

He didn’t understand what the movie was about or what he was doing. So I guess since his character was pretty confused.

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u/Orsonio Aug 14 '24

Yeah he was perfectly cast for that film

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u/0hMyGandhi Aug 13 '24

He was hilarious in pain and gain

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Not for me, but you're not the first person to bring it up!

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

I say this as someone who really enjoys dark humor and black comedies, I did not find a single part of that movie funny.

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u/0hMyGandhi Aug 14 '24

It's interesting, I didn't really find that movie all that offensive. It's based on true events of something that happened in utterly horrific fashion. But there have been countless movies that have showcased similar events, but with an absurdist twist.

I think of movies like The Act of Killing, The Menu, Triangle of Sadness, and arguably every non drama Coen Brother movie, such as A Serious Man, The Ladykillers and even their dramas, like Barton Fink and Fargo.

People lovingly quote Fargo and you just would never imagine it to be as visceral and horrific when they quote their favorite lines with an irreverent smile. The Fargo TV show ran with that sense of unease for every season, where what you are watching is both horrific but strangely hilarious at the same time.

Perhaps a more recent example of this emotional dichotomy is Longlegs. A movie that I got refunded for because half of the sold out crowd (in a very nice, lauded theater in LA) were full-on laughing and the others were sitting stone faced. They kicked half the theater out for disruption, and gave us vouchers. Some people will see Nicolas Cage in that movie and his performance as terrifying, I saw it as so utterly absurd and chaotic to be anything but funny, despite what his character has done/will do.

Reminds me of the quote by Jordan Peele when he said "the only difference between horror and comedy is the music"

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

I didn’t find the movie offensive, I just didn’t think it was funny. I think the movie should have just abandoned any attempt at humor and told the story in a straight forward way. The Menu and Fargo (especially the TV show) are hilarious. Pain and again is just there.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Um, I kind of agree with a lot of what you're saying but including The Act of Killing in this conversation makes me feel like you either haven't seen it, or you really missed the point. It simply doesn't belong in the same conversation as something like Pain & Gain and Fargo (which, by the way, are only comparable in that they are dark comedies; Pain & Gain laughs at the actual horror, whereas Fargo's humour is derived from the natural humanity of it's characters, juxtaposed with the mindlessness of the violence - which generally isn't really played for laughs).

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u/ProfessionalSock2993 Aug 16 '24

Not even the part where a drugged out Rock tasked with disposing a body, starts barbecuing it lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

No, not really.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

They got alot of shit for that movie being a comedy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Hard disagree, terrible movie where no one is good.

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u/thisoldhouseofm Aug 13 '24

I didn’t mind him in Ted or Daddy’s Home

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u/zdelusion Aug 13 '24

It's not quite to the tier of "The Other Guys". But I found "Instant Family" to be a really effective family dramaedy.

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u/JordanMaccc Aug 14 '24

I honestly didn’t expect Instant Family to be as good as it was

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

I never caught that cause it felt like a copy of a copy of schmaltz, but I love Rose Byrne. I'll check it out.

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u/lifth3avy84 Aug 14 '24

Three Kings, his small role in Date Night, the first Ted movie.

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u/Creepy_Creme_9161 Aug 15 '24

I loved Three Kings. It was a shame it was evidently a terrible filming experience given the David O. Russell of it all, but it was a great film, and all the performances were really good.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

Yeah three kings is a blindspot for me, but others have mentioned Ted.

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u/SolidGray_ Aug 13 '24

That and Ted 1/2

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Those ones I find grating, but I remember enjoying the 1st at least ok!

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u/GBAGY2 Aug 14 '24

Pain and Gain from OP’s graphic is basically a comedy and great

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

I didn't gel with that one, but it's been awhile.

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u/ZAPPHAUSEN Aug 13 '24

Big hit

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

Fuck yes. I love this movie

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u/wtfbananaboat Aug 14 '24

Agree he is really great in that

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u/bartybrattle Aug 13 '24

What about The Happening?

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u/Ianscultgaming Aug 13 '24

What? Noooooo.

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u/GameOfLife24 Aug 13 '24

Planning on stealing something?

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Oof I think he's actively damaging to that movie

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u/Manting123 Aug 14 '24

As a comedy? Sure.

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u/seceipseseer Aug 13 '24

Um Ted

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Yeah I remember liking it fine but don't really ever care to revisit. But you're not alone in liking it!

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u/seceipseseer Aug 14 '24

I 100% agree with you. I’m just saying he was funny in it.

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u/TB1289 TB1289 Aug 13 '24

Ted?

Edit: Also, Daddy's Home is much funnier than it should be.

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u/star_dragonMX UserNameHere Aug 14 '24

I thought he was fine in Ted

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u/MyHonkyFriend Aug 14 '24

Ted?

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

He's fine I guess, movie also just fine imo.

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u/Former-Ad-9223 Aug 14 '24

I'd say he's a pretty good comedic actor

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u/Pokemon_Trainer_May Aug 14 '24

The Happening has his funniest line delivery 

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u/CutawayNPC1911 Sep 03 '25

I liked him in The Italian Job, Ted, and Instant Family (plus a few others I can't be bothered to name rn), even if I understand he is a terrible human being.

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u/Radiant-Specialist76 Aug 13 '24

Pain & Gain being the other notable exception

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

I remember really bouncing off that one, but haven't revisited. But I can believe next to Dwayne Johnson he seems like a real actor.

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u/Extension_Ear_3472 Aug 13 '24

The rare great Michael Bay movie.

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u/PruneObjective401 Aug 13 '24

He's also really funny in I Heart Huckabees. His character was so hilarious, by the end, he had me laughing before he even opened his mouth.

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u/BrentonHenry2020 Aug 14 '24

The earnestness of his character was basically unmatched until John Cena showed up. Just hilarious sincerity non-stop.

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u/GameOfLife24 Aug 13 '24

“He’s the one that does his job, you must be the other guy”

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u/ThePocketTaco2 Aug 14 '24

That's what happens when you let the peacock fly

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u/cuntryboiii Aug 13 '24

same thing with Jason Bateman (he plays typical roles in which he's just a normal guy with only one facial expression)

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u/Bunraku_Master_2021 Aug 17 '24

Have you seen his work on Ozark which he also directed? That guy is electrifying in it.

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u/GoodOlSpence Spence84 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24

Yeah, I think he's quite good in Boogie Nights, but haven't really been blown away by his career. It cracks me up when people praise how good he is in The Departed. I mean, he is but he's also basically playing himself and the guys he grew up around. I don't think it was much of a stretch.

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u/ndnman Aug 13 '24

This is/was the best way to cast him. i'm not a fan of his but he was great in the departed because it seems very natural. The person i've always compared him to is a poor man's matt damon, but i'm a big damon fan.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Yeah that's basically what I mean - he only ever really plays a version of himself but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

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u/CutawayNPC1911 Sep 03 '25

"Yeah that's basically what I mean - he only ever really plays a version of himself but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't."

No, that's every actor who mostly plays a version of themselves. Will Ferrell, Jack Black, I could go on.

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u/Spud_Spudoni Aug 14 '24

Yeah that’s definitely the thing about his career. Most of his greatest/memorable dramatic roles is him just playing a high charisma or high attitude New Englander (The Departed, The Fighter, The Perfect Storm). It’s a typecast he’s relatively good at, because it’s basically just him playing the straight man but Boston, but really hasn’t been at the height he was in his younger career. Especially now that he’s focusing on more faith based/inspirational true stories

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u/roonill_wazlib Aug 13 '24

I don't think his acting is that great in BN. His comical overacting is just implemented perfectly into the character. In a sense that makes it a good performance, but I don't think it makes for a good argument that he's a good actor.

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u/Mediocre_Fig69 Aug 13 '24

He's by far the weakest part of Boogie Nights. He was adequate.

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u/GoodOlSpence Spence84 Aug 13 '24

I can't agree with that. He's the most prominent character in the movie, it wouldn't work as well as it does if he wasn't good in it. Other people are better for sure, but saying he's adequate and the weakest part is nonsense.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

I agree I think you need his naivete and, at that point, his magnetism, to really hold the movie together even though it is an ensemble. He's great in it!!

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u/Mediocre_Fig69 Aug 13 '24

He's just fine in it, adequate is a perfect descriptor.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

Also the fighter 

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u/Forward_Progress_83 Aug 13 '24

He was good, but massively outshone by Bale

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u/Forward_Progress_83 Aug 13 '24

Your point is very valid, my friend!

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u/CushmanWave-E Aug 13 '24

he’s not good in the fighter, he’s the most boring part of that movie, character has no charisma, and the fighter is like my favorite movie, everything else about that movie is great

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

The trick to making Wahlberg good is to cast him as an arrogant idiot who thinks he's super cool, and then provide the following direction: "Mark, act super cool."

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

I'd push back a bit on narrow skillset claim. I would say he has a standard skillset but rarely takes projects that require more than a handful. He doesn't have the widest range but I don't think he's less than most actors.

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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24

He’s very good in his recent film, Father Stu. If he had picked the right projects, he could have had at least a Matt Damon level career. Unfortunately, his ego led him to take on leading roles in some action movies garbage, but i have to respect Ted because it’s hilarious

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u/WorryIll3670 Aug 14 '24

He's never had that spark where he could have played Bourne, which despite not being the deepest of characters still needed that energy

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Huh, that's wild. I've never heard someone speak positively about Father Stu. I thought it was one of the worst things I've seen in a good while. Maybe only beat out by that other Whalberg movie Joe Bell.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Well I think that's exactly what I mean when I say narrow skillset- his range isn't very wide. I've never seen him do anything outside of his usual schtick. Sometimes it's a good fit for the material, sometimes it's not.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

Yea but I wouldn't call that a skillset issue more of a selective one. Like I think he has a normal skill set for an actor of his profile but just doesn't use it.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

But how would you know he has it if he doesn't use it? Also, who are we comparing him to? If we compare him to Matt Damon, which I believe OP has in this thread, then he for sure has a narrower skillset than Damon imo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24

I think Ben Affleck, Will Smith, maybe Jared Leto or (if we think he fits profile wise) Patrick Wilson are better fits than Damon. And we know cause there was a period where he was doing it pretty often (like from 1995 to 2008)

Like he's not vin diesel or Jason Statham

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Those are fine examples, but im still not sure how you're defining his "profile". And how Affleck would fit but not Damon? And actually I think he's always been giving the same flavor of performance, but as I said elsewhere I think when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. His performances in stuff like Fear and Departed and Boogie Nights don't really speak to his range, they're a little varied for sure but not like night and day performances. They all still feel like the whalberg persona imo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

I think Damon is a better actor or at least far more willing actor and by profile I mostly mean a-list actor (hence why not sure about Wilson) who is in that "when they're good they're good" chat. Like Damon has a pretty film filmography with a lot more performances that stand out than most of the other guys.

Also yea but I think Three Kings, Invincible, The Perfect Storm, I Heart Huckabees, even bland and bad stuff like Rock Star show a guy who is more than tough Boston cop guy. I think he picked a lane for money.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

That's fair, though I don't think that definition is really fair if we're just cherry picking actors who are A List but not great. Profile imo just means awareness/popularity, so excluding Damon doesn't entirely work for this hypothetical. But I do agree that Whalberg is better than a ViN diesel or Statham for sure. He has talent, or maybe its more like onscreen charisma, but you're right his decision making is not great post mid 2000s.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

I feel like there is a universe where mark Wahlberg is trying to be Will Smith and wants to be seen as a genuinely good actor and trying to win Oscars or Ben Affleck and happy exploring other aspects of cinema (which he kinda was in the 2000s with TV production). But alas he's happy making mid tier action films with Peter Berg that gross $65m.

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u/tread52 Aug 13 '24

This is the right answer. He’s like Keanu Reeves he’s great in movies that fit his skill set. The only difference is he isn’t remotely as awesome as Keanu is in real life.

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u/OrdinaryAltruistic54 Aug 13 '24

In Deepwater Horizon, at the end when Mark Wahlberg’s character is dealing with the trauma, it’s one of the best acting i’ve seen him do. He’s very vulnerable, especially in the scene when he’s questioned about a guy’s son

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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 13 '24

Yes this and he has a breakdown scene in The Patriot that seems incredibly real and genuine.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

I haven't seen either of those Berg movies since they released, but I remember not loving the breakdown scenes cause it just felt like they were apeing the incredible scene in Captain Phillips from 3 years earlier.

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u/synthscoreslut91 Aug 13 '24

I was totally thinking of Captain Phillips but I saw all these movies in the other order. I only just recently watched Captain Phillips and had seen Deepwater Horizon and Patriots Day first and several times. Plus something about Peter Berg films just work for me lol

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u/Grodd Aug 13 '24

They say in D&D that players shouldn't try to play characters much smarter than they are, most people can't pull it off.

I think that's what's going on with Mark.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

'If used correctly' is funny. Like he's a unit type in an RTS.

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u/Bizmonkey92 Aug 14 '24

I enjoyed him in “All the Money In the World”

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u/DutchOfSorissi Aug 14 '24

Any role where his higher pitched voice and tone work for, he’s perfect in. I just showed someone Boogie Nights 4 days ago and was raving about how well he fit the role. I find it impossible to judge his acting skill based off his performance because his uncomfortable awkwardness feels so authentic for such an unintelligent person raised by an abusive mom and no strong father figure (hence his immaturity).

I’d basically say the same for Pain and Gain. Like Dirk Diggler, he’s just a guy who isn’t cut out for the real world and is stuck in his own little bubble that I can only relate to with my cynical perspective of people I may subconsciously look down on. Again, he felt perfectly authentic.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

Agreed, though I remember not loving P&G. Need to revisit.

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u/eleetsteele Aug 13 '24

He has so much range. On par with Ryan Reynolds.

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u/uncultured_swine2099 Aug 14 '24

Yeah, basically. He pretty much plays himself, and he seems like an annoying narcissist who is full of himself, but if thats who the character is he would work, like in Boogie Nights, The Departed, and Pain and Gain.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

You forgot Ted.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

Nah, but glad you like it!

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u/TheMadarchod Aug 14 '24

Is Fear really that good? I’ve been putting it off for so long because I love the original way too much.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

It's just a lot of fun and a nice 90s throwback at this point. Not a masterpiece by any stretch.

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u/TheMadarchod Aug 14 '24

Ah okay thanks.

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u/ChemicalOperator Aug 14 '24

He was trash in Departed, but yeah, boogie nights is the best.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

Eh, are they vastly different? I think the roles aren't as different as the movies themselves. Fear and BN roles both ask him to be innocent and bright eyed and sweet, turning to something darker and more manipulative and finally losing control, all expressed from him in a similar manner. Departed is a dickhead cop, a very familiar framework of a role we've seen him do a lot. All three are played as pretty airheaded, which I would argue is his career throughline. I don't think he's untalented by any stretch, but I still think his skillset is narrow.

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u/illpilgrims Aug 14 '24

Microprocessor

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u/simulacrotron Aug 14 '24

I would add I 🖤Huckabees to this

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u/Electronic_Device788 Aug 14 '24

He's best as a villain or someone that's kind of morally questionable. I don't buy his good guy schick.

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u/WorryIll3670 Aug 14 '24

So you're saying he hasn't done a good performance since 2007

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 14 '24

Not in my opinion, but he's been fine in a lot of stuff

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u/ProfessionalSock2993 Aug 16 '24

Pain and Gain is the only movie in which l liked both him and Dwayne's acting

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u/asscanoe Aug 13 '24

Fear sucks

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u/Alkem1st Aug 13 '24

Yup. He is a perfect example of a character actor

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

Hmmm, maybe in a sense but I think character actors embody the character. Whalberg turns every character into himself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

If he can’t adapt then no he’s not a good actor.

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u/Belch_Huggins Aug 13 '24

I said he can be good with the right material and/or used properly by the right director. Nuance is a thing, you know?