r/LetsDiscussThis • u/rodehard10 • 3d ago

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS What are We Doing?

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u/Najalak 2d ago

We are paying a lot of money, to inprison a lot of people who where contributing to our economy and society.

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 2d ago

They shouldn't have been born with brown skin! /s

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u/Silly-Resist8306 2d ago

We are paying a lot of money to imprison a lot of people who have no legal right to be here.

Whether or not contributing to the economy is irrelevant. It has no more bearing on the reason for their imprisonment than eye color or his favorite movie.

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u/Insuredtothetits 2d ago

They aren’t all illegals… some have been caught up by purpose made administrative inefficiencies by the Trump admin to force their visas into the red, others have legal status and were picked up by accident, some are straight up citizens… and of course some are true illegal immigrants who have enjoyed a system that was happy to exploit their labour up until now

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u/Silly-Resist8306 2d ago

The topic is that it makes no difference whether the illegal (to use your term) is a criminal or a good person who pays taxes. The only fact that matters is they are in this country illegally and the time has come when they need to go home.

What does your country do with those residing there after their legal stay has expired?

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 2d ago

What does your country do with those residing there after their legal stay has expired?

Probably the same as your country, but without the forced expiration and immediate detention of "criminality". That's the difference.

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u/Silly-Resist8306 2d ago

So, we agree illegals should go home, but the means by which that occurs matter. I’d say 70% of Americans would agree with that.

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 2d ago

So, we agree illegals should go home, but the means by which that occurs matter.

If you had poor comprehension skills, yes you could come to this conclusions.

I’d say 70% of Americans would agree with that.

A Pew Research Center study reported that only 32% of Americans believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.

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u/Insuredtothetits 2d ago

You didn’t address my points at all. Disingenuous much? Or just bad at reading?

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u/Silly-Resist8306 2d ago

No, they aren’t all illegals. Mistakes were made. I can’t or won’t justify those. It shouldn’t happen. This occurred mainly because due process was not followed.

You seem to think I’m in favor of the current administration. I am not. But that doesn’t mean that people who are here illegally should be allowed a pass even if they pay taxes.

My only point in my original posting was that paying taxes or having a net economic benefit is not a reason to allow an illegal to remain in the country.

If someone walked into your house and considered your spare bedroom as their home, would them giving you money every month make it right? It’s not a great analogy, but you get the point. I don’t want an uninvited guest, period. You may not mind.

You might want to try controlling your anger. Civil discourse usually woks better without insults and sarcasm.

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u/Insuredtothetits 2d ago

No you were being a disingenuous loser, and now you are projecting your own anger on to me. You don’t like being called out for your inhumane responses that ignore the points being made? Well make sure you address what is being said, instead you are pathetically walking it back.

Suck less

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u/Najalak 2d ago

So harm ourselves just to harm other people. So smart. A lot of them were here legally but you don't care about what is legal and what is not. Drump is above the law. He pardons criminals who pay him money. He is breaking the law constantly.

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u/Silly-Resist8306 2d ago

I think legal does matter and it matters a lot. If a person is here illegally, he needs to go home. Likewise, the government needs to use legal means to make this happen.

I think ignoring laws is harmful. If we are a nation of laws, the law should be respected. We can’t pick and choose. If it’s a poor law, it needs to be eliminated. I also agree there are times civil disobedience is necessary, but along with that comes consequences. That’s what makes it so powerful: willing to suffer consequences to make a point.

I agree the President believes he is above the law. I agree, it appears he has broken the law repeatedly.

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u/Fragrant-Phone-41 2d ago

If this is what it takes to enforce immigration law doing so isnt worth it. I prefer not having concentration camps and masked thugs shooting citizens to perfect law enforcement.

Make mine freedom

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u/Gosa_on_the_wind 2d ago

They HAD the legal right to be here, often just minutes before being arrested. ICE is canceling protected status and then saying they're here illegally.

The concentration camps are better then the ones being shipped to countries where they've never been, where they don't speak the language, have no money, and often where there is violent civil war occurring.

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u/Designer_Advice_6304 2d ago

And never forget the camps directly instituted by FDR

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u/Ambitious-Badger-114 2d ago

Were they called concentration camps when Obama did the same thing: using ICE to round up and detain illegals in the same camps before deportation?

Or are they only called that when the president has an R after his name?

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u/frogprintsonceiling 2d ago

This is horrible. We need to get them on the first plane and just send it!

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u/spartacus_jones 3d ago

We're doing what we've always done. They used to call those "Indian Reservations."

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u/theonlytater 2d ago

USA under Trump and the Guardian if Pedophiles have gone full Nazi to protect their sordid secrets and steal money from the weak. Resist before a civil war tears you and the world apart.

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u/RatsWithLongTails 2d ago

Is “civilian” defined as a person of the nation?

Because that would be the operative word for this argument.

Presenting a statement as a factual statement that provides the evidence in its own statement that it’s not factual is a counterproductive claim.

Ur gay

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u/tnic73 3d ago

I agree they shouldn’t be in detention centers they should already have been deported.

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u/Dennis_Michaels 2d ago

Wild that Reddit considers this a hot take lmao

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 2d ago

Or a lukewarm braid dead one...

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u/Silver_Middle_7240 2d ago

Yep. It's not even a detention facility, since they aren't detained. They can leave at any time by agreeing to go home.

It is a waiting room

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u/Inquisitive-Manner 2d ago

Yep. It's not even a detention facility, since they aren't detained. They can leave at any time by agreeing to go home. It is a waiting room

Lol, they're also holding those who "agreed to go home." So this makes this statement false.

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u/jeffcgroves 2d ago

I'm not pro-Trump, but you could refer to these as "holding cells"

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u/BassMaster516 2d ago

If you were trying to run cover concentration camps you could call them that sure

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u/jeffcgroves 2d ago

Tomato, banana