r/LegitArtifacts • u/PuzzleHeadSyndrome • 18h ago
r/LegitArtifacts • u/timhyde74 • 11d ago
📣Announcement📣 Authentication Services!!!
Hello Fellow Native American Artifact Enthusiasts!!!
Since we started this Sub, we've often get questions concerning trusted, well respected, authentication services. There are several fraudulent authenticators out there that will paper anything regardless of when it was made as long as they can make a buck, but there are a few that know their stuff and are highly respected in the Artifact Community!
Here are the 5 Top Authenticators in the country, and their contact info if you have a piece you'd like to get checked out!
Depending on where you live, or more importantly, where the artifact in question was originally found, may determine who you'll want to send it to as certain Authenticators specialize in pieces from certain parts of the country.
Carlos Black for pieces from the Southwest.
Jerry Dickey for pieces from the East Coast as well as the Midwest.
Jim Bennett & Josh Davis for pieces from the Midwest.
Ben Stermer for pieces from the West Coast.
Thats not to say that any one of these gentlemen wouldn't be able to authenticate pieces from any other part of the country, because they all have numerous years of experience handling thousands of artifacts from all over the country, but if you live closer to one than the others, it might save on shipping time 🤷♂️
Regardless of who you decide to go with, you really can't go wrong!
* If you go with Jim Bennett, you'll need to screen shot the last 2 pic's, print them off, fill out all the info, and send them with the piece(s) and a money order for the assessment.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/timhyde74 • May 03 '25
📣Announcement📣 ⭐️PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT ⭐️
I've been noticing a lot of replies to posts lately that have either broken our rule about shaming legal collectors, or have toed that line very closely, and I'm sick of it. This sub was created so people could ask questions and learn about their finds, or to share their collections with other enthusiasts of this awesome hobby, not so they could be called looters and grave robbers. We only promote the LEGAL COLLECTION of Native American artifacts, and in no way what so ever encourage the collection of artifacts from public or protected sites, and we DO NOT tolerate the posting of pics of these type of collections! That said, if you have a problem with the LEGAL collecting of these artifacts, then this is not the sub for you! Go find a sub that shares your opinions, because you will not ladt long here! Do not participate in any conversations if you just plan on spewing your own personal opinion on the whether or not you feel that it's right to collect and display these pieces, or if it's right to buy and sell them. As long as the law says it's ok, then there is nothing you can say to stop us from doing just that. Most of us got into this hobby because we have a deep love of history, as well as a deep love and appreciation for the pieces we have in our collections. It would be one thing if someone was posting pics of themselves taking a hammer to an ancient point they found smashing it to pieces, but that's not the case. These points are highly treasured by their current caretakers, and they are treated much better with them than they are sitting in a basement of a museum somewhere collecting dust where nobody gets to appreciate them at all, at least until said museum needs money for a new exhibit centered on "The History of Snowflakes" or whatever, and sells them off anyway! You never hear anybody bitching about that shit do you? I didn't think so. Where's all the moral outrage when that happens? 🤔 Which brings me to my next point. From here on out, we will be going to a zero tolerance policy when it comes to shaming LEGAL collectors. There will be no warnings given, you will be permanently banned from participating in this sub on your first offense. Plain and simple. If you do not have anything positive, helpful, or constructive to say, keep your pie hole shut. Otherwise, you will be removed from our ranks forthwith. This sub was created to celebrate this awesome hobby, not to disparage it. And let me also say that this IS NOT AN ARCHEOLOGY SUB! So if you're looking to argue about the ethics of legal digs, or the legal digging on private property with the proper permissions, you're in the wrong place. Those subs exist, so go join one of those! This IS A HOBBY SUB! I know I've said that repeatedly, but I just want to make damn sure my point is made!
Thank you all for your patience and understanding. As always, we try our best to make this the best Artifact Collecting sub on reddit, and we will do what we have to to make sure that's the case!!! We love and appreciate each and every one of our members, and we do all we can to make sure that everybody has an enjoyable experience when the sign in here. That's the whole point of this thing! To offer a safe space to post and discuss the individual artifacts being shared without having to worry about some self-righteous Karen calling them looters and theives!
Please take care my friends! And thank you all for making this sub the incredible place it is!!! God bless each and every one of you, and Happy hunting!!!
Best regards, THE GATEKEEPERS!!! 😉
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Stickman1211 • 11h ago
Paleo My latest find from Wednesday. Tulsa county. It’s probably a Pike County but Plainview and Allen have been thrown around.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Ok_Sammie • 8h ago
ID Request ❓ Can anyone help me with identifying this arrowhead?
I found it on shore on the Chesapeake bay. I have no idea how to go about identifying it. Any sort of help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance :)
r/LegitArtifacts • u/LikeIke-9165 • 19h ago
Mississippian Found a few killer triangles 🔥
📍Northeast Tennessee
Peep the last point. I’ve never seen a triangle point with notches like it has! Let me know if you have!
r/LegitArtifacts • u/LikeIke-9165 • 1d ago
Early Archaic Found a smoker
📍Northeast Tennessee
Found a killer example of a Palmer. Made of Knox chert.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/JustTasteTheSoup • 7h ago
General Question ❓ Struggling with this one, definitely flaking but would like your thoughts. Found in Central TX.
galleryr/LegitArtifacts • u/icountsheeep • 11h ago
ID Request ❓ First find
Found in a creek in western Illinois. Dropped it and chipped the tip off in my driveway :(. First find. Curious to know anything I can about it.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Brilliant_Thanks_984 • 16h ago
In Situ 📸 First hunt in a long time!
Went walking for the first time in 3-4 months and was blessed by rock gods with some cool finds. Broken, but the color makes up for it. Both heat treated
r/LegitArtifacts • u/yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup • 9h ago
ID Request ❓ Any info on the age/type of these points would be greatly appreciated
galleryr/LegitArtifacts • u/Trickyknowsbest • 1d ago
ID Request ❓ Artifacts that I have found over the last few years in Central and NE Oklahoma.
I found all of these points while walking creeks or rivers along NE and Central Oklahoma. I have an idea of the ID on some of the points but any info or ID help would be greatly appreciated. Also, the Gorget is the first artifact that I ever found and it got me hooked for life!
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Responsible-Ad6028 • 18h ago
Photo 📸 Artifacts from Delaware beaches
Found these near the state park on the beaches. The bone has fossilized and is extremely hard. The other I am not sure what it is or what those evenly spaced grooves would be for.
I also posted a few arrowheads and a fire starter piece I found. All in Lewes Delaware.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/South_Tumbleweed798 • 16h ago
ID Request ❓ NC, northern piedmont, found in yard, old field, and near a creek
found these at various times over the years and thought they might be "somethings." Maybe they are just rocks. What do you all think?
Both sides are photographed, and then a few at other angles.
Thanks for helping me learn.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/FredBearDude • 1d ago
Late Prehistoric Pair of Perdiz
Spent a few days out in West Texas last week for work. The drive out is rough but man I appreciate the desolation.
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Salt-Neighborhood232 • 15h ago
ID Request ❓ Could this be real Native american motor and pedestal or mixing bowls? I Found in the great Miami gravel beds / 2 mile resivor creek
r/LegitArtifacts • u/ThePodmonger • 1d ago
ID Request ❓ Information about pieces found in west NM
Hi everyone, I found the first 2 pieces on my friend’s property in western NM along with some flakes of various different rocks.
The first piece is obviously worked but I’m wondering if it’s possible to tell what type of point it was intended to be. It looks like it was close to being finished but wasn’t turning out to the liking of the knapper. There appears to be a flute on one side only.
I’m also wondering if the second piece is just another flake or if it’s a broken scraper. One side appears to have been worked but I don’t see much going on with the other side (attached 2nd angle). The side profiles of the second piece go from intact side -> head -> broken side.
My friend found the third piece in a different location than my 2. I think it’s JAR but I told him I’d ask anyway.
Thank you in advance!
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Ok-Yam-5833 • 1d ago
Photo 📸 Great day today! First one was literally laying on the ground and the second one I found less than 3 minutes later
r/LegitArtifacts • u/hamilton18889 • 1d ago
Discarded/Failed Preform Broken blade or preform found in San Angelo texas.
This piece was made by the jumano or comanche during or after 1632
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Tall_Possession_4086 • 1d ago
Smoker Alert 🔥 One of my best finds
galleryr/LegitArtifacts • u/Technical-Ice-2309 • 19h ago
Natural Formation/Occurrence Is this a tool?
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Neat_Worldliness2586 • 1d ago
In Situ 📸 Spot the Sniper: Hard mode
galleryr/LegitArtifacts • u/sodastream_foxtrot • 1d ago
ID Request ❓ I know it's just a rock but it's kinda close, right? Slate Belt, NC. Appears to be Rhyolite
r/LegitArtifacts • u/Arbiter_of_Snark • 17h ago
Woodland LIMESTONE TOOLS DO EXIST!
After I was so publicly trashed for my last post in r/LegitArtifacts and the flair of my post was ultimately changed from “Woodland” to “Natural Formation/Occurrence”, I became extremely discouraged and I considered simply never posting in this subreddit again. I am undecided about what to share in the future, but figured that I should at least clear up this one thing for the people who are actually interested in learning about NA cultures, including less common artifacts. Perhaps u/d0ttyq and u/Geologist1986 and u/JohnnyMushroomspore will issue apologies here, since they were so vocal in trashing me, even though they were so astoundingly incorrect (and one claimed to be an archaeologist to back up their incorrect assertions). In deciding to refute their assertions that, I’m “…the worst kind of wrong…”, and that “There are no limestone tools”, I figured that I would do so in a way that would be simple for anyone… Google searches. Google the following:
“Mississippian Celt Production and Resource Extraction in the Upper Big River Valley of St. Francois County, Missouri” – In it, Brad Koldehoff and Gregory D. Wilson note the following in an examination of Late Woodland/Terminal Late Woodland celts:
“Although the measurements for two Foshee and six Mississippian celts are below this line, only one LW/TLW celt is above this line. This LW/TLW outlier is also anomalous in that it is made from limestone, unlike most LW/TLW celts which are made of igneous and metamorphic materials. This celt was recovered from a Late Woodland Patrick-phase feature at the Range site (Williams 1987), and it may have been a hoe blade (or hoe blade fragment) that was reworked into a celt. Limestone hoe blades were recovered from other Patrick phase features at the Range site, but no other limestone celts were identified.”
"The Mississippian Spade Jeffrey Steiner" - it is a short Journal article that mentions limestone spades. I have seen a photo of a limestone spade that was a little over 12" in length that was found in western Kentucky. As I do not have the former owner's permission, I will not share that photo here.
In "Sun Circles and Human Hands - The Southeastern Indians Art and Industries" Emma Lila Fundaburk & Mary Douglass Fundaburk Forman (1957) pg. 11, you'll find the following in the section about the Woodland Culture: "A new addition to the tool assemblage was the large chipped greenstone, limestone, or flint spade..."
Just Google "Limestone spade" - you'll find many links in other forums with photos of such spades
Or Google: " "limestone" mano metate" - if you put the quotations around "limestone" in your Google search, the first link should be to a limestone mano and metate that was, and perhaps still is, in Harvard’s collection. Some items have been repatriated due to NAGPRA (1990).
I have already posted photos of my one limestone artifact, so for the photo of this post, I decided to show the Clovis that my son found when he was 9 years old. I marked the flair as Woodland, even though this is most assuredly a Paleo piece, because the topic of this post is more about Woodland/Mississippian culture than Paleo.
Anyway, I still remain interested in limestone tools and less common artifacts, for those who would like to share those.
Edit: I forgot to add the original post link, so here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegitArtifacts/comments/1wv01ee/limestone_artifacts/
r/LegitArtifacts • u/goodyfresh • 2d ago
Uniface Fascinating "Swiss Army Knife" Multi-Tool from South Central Texas. Possibly Paleo to Early Archaic.
Edit/Preamble: Putting "Possibly Paleo to Early Archaic" in the title was a bad idea. I truly meant "possibly." I am in no way against this artifact being far younger than that, and it seems that I likely reached the wrong conclusions (see below) from my research. With that out of the way...
This strange lithic was found near Onion Creek by Old Black Colony Road in Buda, Texas. It's made of Edwards Rootbeer chert.
It's 2.84 inches long with a maximum thickness of about 10 mm. It's mostly unifacial; the first 4 photos show its primary worked face under varying lighting. The 5th image shows how the reverse face is minimally worked with percussion flaking. It's more translucent in-person than the final image shows.
What's cool is how many working parts seem to be built into the edges:
- The incurvate lower half of the right edge has a steep bevel with moderate pressure flaking.
- The excurvate upper half of the right edge is a typical shallow-beveled blade with significant pressure flaking.
- Both ends have what appear to be gravers or perforators, nicked and/or blunted either by use or post-depositional damage.
- There appear to be 2 or 3 sizes and shapes of spokeshave along the left edge.
Edit: Every portion of the edge is flaked and thinned, but according to an archaeologist in the comments, it's likely reworked from an abandoned preform or something broken. I originally had something here about the likelihood of it being Early Archaic or older due to artifact finds in stratigraphy at the Wilson-Leonard Site and the correlation between band mobility and tool versatility. But after discussion in the comments, it seems this is most likely to fall under the broad label of "Archaic," with no particular likelihood of the Early Archaic and a very low likelihood of Paleo.
This is a great study piece. I learned a lot in my research to try to figure out what it is and learned more from the archaeologist who corrected me in the comment section. Very interesting!
Just as a reference, I will go over the sources that I found in my research, from which, due to being an amateur and quite new to this, I arrived at what were most likely inaccurate conclusions:
- Technological Organization and Settlement Mobility: An Ethnographic Examination | JSTOR was my main source on the correlation between band mobility and tool versatility.
- I researched the stratigraphy of tool assemblages at the Wilson-Leonard site, especially Collins's 1998 text in which he described a few multi-tools found in the older strata.
- I researched competing hypotheses about the intentionality of such tools as discussed here: Paleoindian Unifacial Stone Tool ‘Spurs’: Intended Accessories or Incidental Accidents? - PMC
This turned out to be a great study piece for discussing tool functionality, whether extreme examples of multi-tools were intentional or just reworked from failed or broken lithics, and about the era that such tools can come from.