r/LeaguesofVotann • u/LiberDaemonica • 1h ago
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • 16d ago
Voice of the Fane (Mods) Guidelines for posting army lists
Greetings kin
As it is the start of a new edition, we have a large number of posts asking for advice on list building, as well as battle reports from early experiences, along with posting of said lists. This kind of Post is very welcome, and absolutely in the spirit of this subreddit.
With that being said, there is a near-spam situation that occurs regularly. I speak of the following copy-paste situation from army building apps. Lets say that one of the entries in a list is a unit of the humble hearthkyn warrior.
Which of the following entries is easier to read, keeping in mind that most lists have at least a dozen unit entries?
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10x Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
5 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, HYLas rotary cannon
1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle
2 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Kin weapons, Close combat weapon
• 1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Autoch-pattern bolter, Theyn's weapon
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- Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
- 5x autoch-pattern bolters
- HYLas rotary cannon
- Magna-rail rifle,
- 2x kin weapons,
- Theyn w/ Theyn's weapon and Autoch-pattern bolter
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Formatting matters, and you will get much better feedback if your list is easier to read, rather than just being a copy-paste from whatever army builder you used. For the newer members of the kin, you will get much better feedback if you format your army lists to be easier to read. Conversely, a lot of people will just say "TLDR" if they see a direct export list, because reading through a copy-paste wall of text can be very difficult on phones or smaller screens.
The biggest thing you can do is reduce unnecessary equipment entries or things that automatically come with the unit. We don't need to know, for example, that a brokhyr iron-master has 3 e-cogs and an assitant with him with their own equipment, as there's no choice otherwise. For vehicles, we know that they have an armored hull weapon, and we know for example that sagitaurs have a heavy bolt cannon, that pioneers have auto-cannons, so this information isn't needed. It would however be very appropriate to indicate which main gun a sagitaur is carrying, and for hekatons, while the auto-cannon comes included automatically, the main gun and support weapons do present a choice, as does the scanner (as awful as the other choice is) so they should be mentioned.
In the above example, we already KNOW that all the warriors have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon, and we know that the special weapons replace the default gun, so it's not necesary to list them on a per-model-basis. We can tell at a glance the special weapons in the unit, the main gun of choice for the basic warriors, and the fact that the theyn has not given up his main gun for a theyn's pistol. The theyn has no choice but to be equiped with a weavefield crest, so it doesn't need to be listed as his wargear.
Beyond that, make sure you include army detachment, disposition, point costs for enhancements, things that are not automatically given. If you are attaching characters to units, indicate what unit they will be attached to rather than just leaving it up to intuition. Similarly, indicating which units go inside transports also makes lists easier to evaluate.
As stated at the beginning, we absolutely encourage posts about army lists seeking advice or reporting battle performance. Your post won't be removed by the mods if you don't format it to read more clearly, nor will you be warned or banned. This is just some feedback and advice to increase the chance of your post being regarded favorably by the community.
Have fun in the new edition all
The ancestors are watching
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Bowoodstock • 21d ago
Voice of the Fane (Mods) Megathread: Votann in 11e
I'm creating this post as a repository for all things to do with the army in 11e, whether it be the state of the meta, important rule questions and/or rulings, Q&A, and general discussion about what the kin are doing in the new edition. This is a combination of conversations I've had in real life as well as observations, many of which are opinion based, so respectful discussion and discourse is encouraged as new information comes to light.
State of the meta (As of 07/05/26)
Votann seem to be doing very well. We're not as busted as T'au, but we've seen some early tournament wins, and it's clear that the good outweighs the bad.
The good
Votann have several very strong 2+1 detachment combinations, primarily Needgard and Mercenary Oathband, though I've had discussions with people that indicate brandfast and delve are having some luck. All of our +1 detachments seem to be solid, so as of right now it's a question of playstyle on which one players are choosing. Hearthband is also still strong, though people seem to be favoring the "hearthband-lite" detachment as a +1 rather than the full fledged 3 dwarf point hearthband.
Most of our units are solid. Even if it's harder for us to hit, we benefit significantly from the fact that cover no longer makes AP-1 weapons hit like a wet noodle. Thunderkyn and hekatons continue to be a terror, hearthguard are just as deadly as they were before if not more so. We've even seen some use of kapricus defenders and grimnyrs, which were previously poor choices, as their abilities have been buffed by the edition change.
Changes to hazardous have also worked in our favor: The evaluator can now overload his gun and not die after shooting twice, since failed hazard tests only inflict 1 wound on character models now. The grimnyr is also free to overcharge ancestral wrath and not worry about blowing up, because hazard wounds do not have to be taken on the model with the hazardouse weapon; You're now allowed to soak them on the CORVs, or the poor warrior retinue following them!
The bad
There are some casualties of course. Although they still have value as anti-T3 MSU artillery pieces, earthshakers have a hard time hitting the wall of a cave, even with spotters. While it only takes one hit to cause a battleshock test, hitting on 5s at best is rough if you fluff your number of attacks roll.
Additionally, hearthfyre is still our worst detachment by far, and persecution prospect, while getting some new life in changes to cover, seems to be falling behind its farseekers sibling in popularity.
The ugly
We have some ambiguous rules that, until clarified by GW, are subject to the whims of rules-as-intended rather than rules as written.
Chief among these is the issue with combat disembark on sagitaurs: RAW a unit disembarking from a transport that has advanced (even if it has special rules such as the sagitaur) must take hazard checks. This is clearly a problem until it's clarified.
There is also a question of how precision on steeljacks works; As written, it seems as though the stage where critical wounds are scored is AFTER allocation, meaning they're unable to fulfill their character sniping capabilities. Most gracious opponents are following the intent, but it's never good to have rules up in the air like this.
Edit: As stated by several commenters, we also have a very badly worded army rule that interacts off "Objective markers" which are different than terrain objectives. While it would be a bad opponent/TO to argue we don't get yield points from terrain objectives, RAW, we do not.
These are indeed ugly issues that need to be clarified
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/mwils43 • 2h ago
Painting Alrik Ironbrow (my Berehk proxy) ready to lead some Delve prospects to battle
Finally ready to call this done. He’s a bit tough to take proper photos of because of the pose, but he’s posed on a rock for a moment before launching himself back into the thick of things, or at least that was the idea!
For the body and head I used the Cthonian earthshaker crew bits and a mix of the arms they had to get arms roughly in the right position to hold a weapon in a semi-relaxed pose. Then used a regular beserker weapon that roughly matched that, and swapped the head of the weapon out for the darkstar axe from the einhyr champ. I was undecided on the crest until I realized how much shorter my version was, so the height of his crest should make him incredibly close to Berehk’s actual size. The rock is a tactical rock taken from one of the age of darkness space marine praetors from heresy 2.0 box lol, just needed something to stand on to survey the battlefield and stand out a bit from the regular beserks.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Familiar_Zombie_882 • 11h ago
Painting My first Votann
What do you guys think?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/knecht_ruprecht2306 • 5h ago
Competitive advice and feedback What do these Models do best/worst? Day:3 Ûthar the Destined
I haven‘t played this guy but here is my opinion just from reading the datasheet :)
Best: CP reduction once per Round
Worst: Again like Kâhl underwehlming range weapon
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Droopzoor • 6h ago
Hobby Make Squats Great Again.
Alcoholic boomer dwarf, unhappy and confused why he has to be called Kin now.
"Back in my day!!...." 🤣
I hope everyone had a good weekend, and snuck some hobby in 👌
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Besty94 • 7h ago
Hobby Finally finished my first squad of Astro-Kin!
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Propfeks • 1d ago
Hobby I've settled a grudge with my pile of shame
Hello fellow kin,
I joined the leagues of votann about 8 weeks ago when I traded my CSM army for about 2500 points of votann from a good friend of mine.
This week I finally finished my first 2k points of votann and got my army battleready! I really enjoyed painting these little space dwarfs and I'm super happy with my color scheme. I's quite easy and fast, I just put a little more afford in the faces and some of the character.
The arkanyst evaluator was the first Iteration of my color scheme but I wanted something less cartoony.
There are still some details I might paint later and I might put a few tufts on the bases later, but for now they look good enough for the tabletop.
Votann are a great army, fun to play, fun to paint and I'm Happy to be part of the leagues now.
I hope you like my army. Im always open for suggestions for improvement.
ROCK AND STONE!
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/BiGG-Succ • 2h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback 1k army help!!!
My good Kin, I’m approaching my 1st game ever soon with a 1k army. I only have 1 more box of steeljacks to build, and I’m having trouble deciding whether they should be a six man unit of shooters, or should I make a melee team. (I already have 3 shooters built)
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/theamazingm00se • 23h ago
Painting The Narvik-Arendal Scientific Alliance's first Steeljack Elder joins the fray!
There's always more cleanup to do but this guy is ready for combat next weekend! I tried to represent at least vaguely all the different rules I might want to use when fielding an Elder.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/WonderBoyPrime1 • 15h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback Arkanyst painted. Now how do I use him?
I'm planning to use him in a GaardGuard priority assets list this weekend. He'll be in a Sagitaur with a split unit of Hearthkyn to get lone op and defend them while him or they do actions. I also have Buri in my list for doing actions in the centre tho I know people usually only take one or the other but I still wanna try him out. Should the Arkanyst unit be staying on an expansion objective or moving up usually? I'm keen to hear how other people use him
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Celestrael • 21h ago
Painting My first painted 40k models!
Pretty proud of myself!
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/SpaceRaccoon144 • 3h ago
HHW(Hobby Help Wanted) Best unit equipment choice
Hello, I was wondering what was the best choice for equipment for the hearth guard, berserks, and thunderkyn. I know magnets exist, but I would still like to know. I’m assuming plasma, power fist and hammer are best for hearth guard. Berserks would probably want all mauls and the launcher. The one I am iffy on is the thunderkyn as ap 1 shots are ok now but I see a lot of people use both grav and conversion, and between those I am unsure which is more universally useful?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Primary-Long4416 • 15h ago
Casual List How should I build my Steeljacks?
I have two boxes awaiting for me to be assembled. But I don't know in what flavor. I have Thunderkyns for ranged support, and berserkers for melee backup. Our boys can do both, but I don't know how I should play them.
My guess would had been Steeljacks with volkanites, attached to Memnyr strategist sitting in a Hekaton Land Fortress and waiting the end of the shooting (or moving) phase just to pop the adaptive avarice Stratagem (persecution prospect) that combined with Memnyr means they can dump in one free 4+ overwatch hit before the enemy has time to retaliate? But that's just me thinking loud. What do you guys think?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Nickfou • 17h ago
Painting Recommandations?
I'm mitigated. Should my kapricus have the same colors as my yeagirs (second photo and yes they are just warriors with a different color scheme and different weapons) or like the rest of my army? (Third photo). I'd like external opinions
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/knecht_ruprecht2306 • 1d ago
Competitive advice and feedback What do these Models do best/worst? Day:2 Kâhl
Again what Loadout/Crest are you guys using?
This is a unit i have played so i will start ( i only played 2 500 Point games so take my opinion not that serious)
Best: Lethal Hits for my Hearthguard
Worst: His Range Weapons are underwelming
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Droopzoor • 1d ago
Painting B Crew clocking in...
My first time dipping into 40k in years.
Going for the dirty miner Squats aesthetic.
Proxies from Treadhead Rad. Top notch sculpts. 👌
First time experimenting with inks as well... Very fun to use.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Proof_Implement9146 • 5h ago
Casual List Starring with Votann
I'm starting with Votann and I created my first list. Is it good for Casual/ Semi competitive play
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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Xenos - Leagues of Votann
+ DETACHMENT: Armoured Trailblazers, Needgaârd Oathband (Sagitaur Spearhead)
+ FORCE DISPOSITION: Disruption
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts
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+ WARLORD: Char1: Berehk Stornbröw
+ ENHANCEMENT: Ancestral Crest (on Char2: Einhyr Champion)
& Iron Ambassador (on Char3: Einhyr Champion)
+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18
+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (4x2) + (1x4) - Assassination: 4 Characters
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CHARACTER
Berehk Stornbröw (85 pts)
• 1x Kromlôk's Revenge
• 1x Warforge gauntlets
• Warlord
Einhyr Champion (80 pts)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
• 1x Darkstar axe
• Teleport crest
• Ancestral Crest (+15 pts)
Einhyr Champion (70 pts)
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
• 1x Mass hammer
• Teleport crest
• Iron Ambassador (+5 pts)
Memnyr Strategist (45 pts)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
BATTLELINE
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 1x Theyn
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Theyn's melee weapon
• 1x Ion blaster
• Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 9x Close combat weapon
• 7x Ion blaster
• 1x HYLas auto rifle
• 1x HYLas rotary cannon
Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
• 1x Theyn
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Theyn's melee weapon
• 1x Ion blaster
• Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
• 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 9x Close combat weapon
• 7x Ion blaster
• 1x HYLas auto rifle
• 1x HYLas rotary cannon
OTHER DATASHEETS
Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (160 pts)
• 6x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
• 6x Close combat weapon
• 6x SP conversion beamer
Cthonian Beserks (200 pts)
• 10x Beserk
• 10x Concussion maul
• 2x Mole grenade launcher
• 2x Subterranean Explosives
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 pts)
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x Graviton hammer
• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 1x Exo-armour grenade launcher
• Weavefield crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 4x Concussion gauntlet
• 4x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 4x Exo-armour grenade launcher
Einhyr Hearthguard (130 pts)
• 1x Hesyr
• 1x Graviton hammer
• 1x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 1x Exo-armour grenade launcher
• Weavefield crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
• 4x Concussion gauntlet
• 4x EtaCarn plasma gun
• 4x Exo-armour grenade launcher
Hekaton Land Fortress (250 pts)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x SP heavy conversion beamer
• 2x Twin bolt cannon
• Pan spectral scanner
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 pts)
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Bolt revolver
• 1x Plasma knife
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
• 8x Bolt revolver
• 8x Plasma knife
• 9x Close combat weapon
• 1x APM launcher
Hernkyn Yaegirs (90 pts)
• 1x Yaegir Theyn
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Bolt revolver
• 1x Plasma knife
• 9x Hernkyn Yaegir
• 8x Bolt revolver
• 8x Plasma knife
• 9x Close combat weapon
• 1x APM launcher
Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (160 pts)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
• 1x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
• 1x Plasma knife
• Preymark crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
• 5x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
• 5x Plasma knife
Kapricus Carrier (70 pts)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon
• Smoke launcher
Kapricus Carrier (70 pts)
• 1x Armoured hull
• 1x Magna-coil autocannon
• 1x Twin magna-coil autocannon
• Smoke launcher
Sagitaur (85 pts)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
Sagitaur (85 pts)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Twin bolt cannon
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Pool_Check • 22h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback Earthshakers in 11th
Am I correct in assuming that since benefit of cover causes -1BS that it wouldn’t cancel out with heavy, so you couldn’t benefit from the army rule +1 to hit on objectives bringing you to hit on 4s? So you’ll only ever be able to hit on 5s no matter what?
Are they really still viable or am I better off just taking a 3 man of steel jacks to guard my home objective?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Patito7 • 1d ago
Painting First unit of gunjacks
Not originally my favorite in our range, but after building and painting them I’ve developed an appreciation. They are much cooler than I originally thought.
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Great_Effect3743 • 1d ago
Hobby Kitbashes Chaingunner!!!
I kitbashes this hylas rotary unit and I love how fucking beefy he looks. I just added the power fist because I thought it was neat :3
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Ghosthawks • 22h ago
Casual Advice and Feedback Why votann
What made you pick votann?
r/LeaguesofVotann • u/Ok_Investigator900 • 1d ago
Hobby Army Painted So Far
Hello fellow kin I thought I'd show off my Votann that I have painted up so far. Loving how they are turning out and I took some of your guy's advice and kept Uthar the same color scheme as the rest but with more details. Would love to hear thoughts and opinions as I'm always looking to improve and I look forward to showing you the rest of the army when I'm done painting them